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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:01:00 -
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Yeah... Not anymore... 1150 damage, -25% from explosive resistance....
So CCP, are you going to give the plasma cannon a decent role anytime soon?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10722
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: So CCP, are you going to give the plasma cannon a decent role anytime soon?
Nope. They're actually going to nerf its AV potential further.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4230
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:29:00 -
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1. PLASMA cannons deal plasma damage; not explosive 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5
I am your scan error.
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Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
828
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:31:00 -
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Sentinels have resistance to splash, meaning you're not doing the full 285-325 splash listed, however you're also able to do full damage with direct hits.
No SP refund=academy stomping FOR DAYYZ
Proud owner of 69 'Fleshriver' Nk's.
No i don't buy AUR
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5423
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:47:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1. PLASMA cannons deal plasma damage; not explosive 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5 But it's pretty safe to assume that they will.
What if I gave a Scout:
- 3200 HP / 1500 HP (Shields / Armor)
- 9.45m/s Sprint Speed
- 9.5m/s Strafe Speed
- 5 High Slots
- 5 Low Slots
- 4 Equipment Slots
- 2 Light Weapon Slots
- 2 Grenade Slots
- 1s Cooldown Time on Cloaks (at Level V)
- 650 CPU / 590 PG
But you could only have this with a Proto suit at Operation Level V. Most people don't have a Level V Scout Suit or light frame, so this should be fine right?
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4230
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1. PLASMA cannons deal plasma damage; not explosive 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5 But it's pretty safe to assume that they will. What if I gave a Scout:
- 3200 HP / 1500 HP (Shields / Armor)
- 9.45m/s Sprint Speed
- 9.5m/s Strafe Speed
- 5 High Slots
- 5 Low Slots
- 4 Equipment Slots
- 2 Light Weapon Slots
- 2 Grenade Slots
- 1s Cooldown Time on Cloaks (at Level V)
- 650 CPU / 590 PG
But you could only have this with a Proto suit at Operation Level V. Most people don't have a Level V Scout Suit or light frame, so this should be fine right? The main point of this thread is to say that the new sentinels will make plasma cannons even worse.
My post was disporiving this by mentioning that there isn't a very big chance that you'll run into a sentinel with 25% plasma resistance, so plasma cannons will still be as viable as they are now.
I am your scan error.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7225
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:54:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Atiim wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1. PLASMA cannons deal plasma damage; not explosive 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5 But it's pretty safe to assume that they will. What if I gave a Scout:
- 3200 HP / 1500 HP (Shields / Armor)
- 9.45m/s Sprint Speed
- 9.5m/s Strafe Speed
- 5 High Slots
- 5 Low Slots
- 4 Equipment Slots
- 2 Light Weapon Slots
- 2 Grenade Slots
- 1s Cooldown Time on Cloaks (at Level V)
- 650 CPU / 590 PG
But you could only have this with a Proto suit at Operation Level V. Most people don't have a Level V Scout Suit or light frame, so this should be fine right? The main point of this thread is to say that the new sentinels will make plasma cannons even worse. My post was disporiving this by mentioning that there isn't a very big chance that you'll run into a sentinel with 25% plasma resistance, so plasma cannons will still be as viable as they are now. Which is not very viable anyway... lol
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5425
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:00:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote: The main point of this thread is to say that the new sentinels will make plasma cannons even worse.
My post was disporiving this by mentioning that there isn't a very big chance that you'll run into a sentinel with 25% plasma resistance, so plasma cannons will still be as viable as they are now.
I disagree.
Everyone and their Grandmothers are saving up SP for 1.8, and once people realize it's power they'll fully spec into it without a second thought.
Remember Day 1 of 1.7? Exactly how many people had a prototype Combat or Rail Rifle?
It'll remain viable for the first few days sure, but afterwards everyone in a Sentinel suit will get Operation V.
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1229
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:01:00 -
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no heavy has explosive resistance.
heavys have 25% SPLASH resistance.
direct hits with a plasma cannon do plasma damage not splash damage.
the most resistance you will face is 10% |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
708
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:20:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote: 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5
Sure assuming there is no re-spec.
CCP your matchmaking still sucks.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
730
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:33:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:no heavy has explosive resistance.
heavys have 25% SPLASH resistance.
direct hits with a plasma cannon do plasma damage not splash damage.
the most resistance you will face is 10% QFT
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
325
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:50:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Atiim wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1. PLASMA cannons deal plasma damage; not explosive 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5 But it's pretty safe to assume that they will. What if I gave a Scout:
- 3200 HP / 1500 HP (Shields / Armor)
- 9.45m/s Sprint Speed
- 9.5m/s Strafe Speed
- 5 High Slots
- 5 Low Slots
- 4 Equipment Slots
- 2 Light Weapon Slots
- 2 Grenade Slots
- 1s Cooldown Time on Cloaks (at Level V)
- 650 CPU / 590 PG
But you could only have this with a Proto suit at Operation Level V. Most people don't have a Level V Scout Suit or light frame, so this should be fine right? The main point of this thread is to say that the new sentinels will make plasma cannons even worse. My post was disporiving this by mentioning that there isn't a very big chance that you'll run into a sentinel with 25% plasma resistance, so plasma cannons will still be as viable as they are now. This doesn't disprove anything. If this were true, then it would only mean that PLCs will be only slightly less effective than the OP implies. I think most people will have at least level 3 because it's pretty easy. I still think there will be a lot of people with level 5. The issue remains however, any explosive resistance will hurt the PLC. The only thing that I'm unsure about is whether or not the direct impact damage. If the resistance applies then I will be upset but if not then I don't think much will have changed in the end game. Heavies are rarely taken down by splash anyway so if they can still be OHKed then I'm fine it. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3316
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:03:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Yeah... Not anymore... 1150 damage, -25% from explosive resistance....
So CCP, are you going to give the plasma cannon a decent role anytime soon?
Heavies get SPLASH resistance.
Not Direct Damage Resistance.
You will still deal full damage.
And Breach MD's will eat heavies for breakfast.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1530
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:21:00 -
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I remember shooting a heavy with the Cannon and he had 2 hp left. I died due to the reload lol
The Plasma Cannon will not be viable against anything anymore. Shield tanks? You're better off with flux grenades.
The only thing you'll be able to kill are scouts lol |
Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
31
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:01:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I remember shooting a heavy with the Cannon and he had 2 hp left. I died due to the reload lol
The Plasma Cannon will not be viable against anything anymore. Shield tanks? You're better off with flux grenades.
The only thing you'll be able to kill are scouts lol
Assuming you can hit them, even with their splash.
Plasma Cannons should be part of the Dust scavenger hunt. "Find a blueprint player. Find a plasma cannon. Find a dropship dogfight"
It's time for MILLITA MONTH!!!
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3448
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:04:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1. PLASMA cannons deal plasma damage; not explosive 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5
The resistance is to splash damage. So direct hits will still do full damage.
No.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1861
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:07:00 -
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Why are you relying on splash anyways? Marksmen will nail their target with a bullseye, not with a scratch.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
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Oxskull Duncarino
0uter.Heaven
488
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1. PLASMA cannons deal plasma damage; not explosive 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5 The resistance is splash damage not explosive damage, so the direct plasma damage of the plasma cannon shouldn't be affected. It is CCP though so anything is possible.
Edit - I should have read future since I see Chunky already said it. |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
180
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:10:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote: 2. Most sentinels don't have level 5
Sure assuming there is no re-spec.
Don't start that up againGǪ
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Jax Saurian
GunFall Mobilization
179
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:11:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:no heavy has explosive resistance.
heavys have 25% SPLASH resistance.
direct hits with a plasma cannon do plasma damage not splash damage.
the most resistance you will face is 10%
Caldari sentinel - 3% shield resistance to hybrid - blaster weapons per level. 3% * 5 = 15%
the most resistance will be 15%
"and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts
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