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Shaira Ilv Enna-Ress
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.08 11:52:00 -
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We all know that CCP is changing everything about armors.
Logistic, Heavy, Assault and Light frames are being turned into something new.
And what about Medium "generic" frames? CCP Logibro stated no changes will be made with upcoming 1.8, so I'm expecting to see something for a future update.
And then my question: what should be their role into the battlefield? Right now they are basically a more expensive version of the Assault Frames. That's quite pointless, I think.
Personally, I would like to see something between the Assault frame and the Logistic Frame:
GÇó Assault GåÆ 100% attack focus
GÇó Medium GåÆ ???
GÇó Logistic GåÆ 80% support focus / 20% attack (***SUPPOSED CCP IDEA***)
What do you think?
Dwelling on the past
Struggling for the future
~ A Burning Life ~
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.03.08 12:19:00 -
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Shaira Ilv Enna-Ress wrote:We all know that CCP is changing everything about armors.
Logistic, Heavy, Assault and Light frames are being turned into something new.
And what about Medium "generic" frames? CCP Logibro stated no changes will be made with upcoming 1.8, so I'm expecting to see something for a future update.
And then my question: what should be their role into the battlefield? Right now they are basically a more expensive version of the Assault Frames. That's quite pointless, I think.
Personally, I would like to see something between the Assault frame and the Logistic Frame:
GÇó Assault GåÆ 100% attack focus
GÇó Medium GåÆ ???
GÇó Logistic GåÆ 80% support focus / 20% attack (***SUPPOSED CCP IDEA***)
What do you think?
50-50 maybe? medium frames really should be an inbetween
assaults better than logi but worse than the assault suit.
logis better than assault but worse than logi. (SHould get 2 equipment slots to acomplish this at the expense of minus 1h |
Zeylon Rho
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Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.08 12:33:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI made a thread about altering the setup on basic frames awhile back.
I made a thread about splitting or adding bonuses to basic frames in my bonus moving thread.
Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
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Shaira Ilv Enna-Ress
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:07:00 -
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No offence intended, but KAGE created a topic even for how many breaths CCP Logibro does during an average day... 
Anyway, he had some interesting ideas about differentiating each armor from the others:
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:MEDIUM
Basic frame: + 1 equipment (2 equipment total, between assault and logi)
Logi: - grenade (they already have an extra low slot & lots of equipment compared to assaults, offensive abilities like grenades shouldn't be emphasized)
Assault: 2 grenade slots
His idea isn't bad, but still there is no mention on skills to apply, not to mention it could become "more" useful than the Assault Suit: like I said before the Assault Frame, as the name implies, is meant for assaults, not for supporting the team.
If the Medium frame keeps the SAME slots of the Assault frame, BUT with +1 Equipment slot, why would you use the Assault frame then?
Reducing the number of high/low slots doesn't seem the right way for me...
Dwelling on the past
Struggling for the future
~ A Burning Life ~
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Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:55:00 -
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Shaira Ilv Enna-Ress wrote:No offence intended, but KAGE created a topic even for how many breaths CCP Logibro does during an average day... Anyway, he had some interesting ideas about differentiating each armor from the others: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:MEDIUM
Basic frame: + 1 equipment (2 equipment total, between assault and logi)
Logi: - grenade (they already have an extra low slot & lots of equipment compared to assaults, offensive abilities like grenades shouldn't be emphasized)
Assault: 2 grenade slots His idea isn't bad, but still there is no mention on skills to apply, not to mention it could become "more" useful than the Assault Suit: like I said before the Assault Frame, as the name implies, is meant for assaults, not for supporting the team. If the Medium frame keeps the SAME slots of the Assault frame, BUT with +1 Equipment slot, why would you use the Assault frame then? Reducing the number of high/low slots doesn't seem the right way for me...
My thread mentions the skill splitting, to give people bonuses for leveling basic suits.
Ergo,
Basic Frame:
3% Worlfing and 3% Yuggs bonus per rank of Basic Frame
Assault Frame:
5% Worlfing per rank of Basic Frame
&
5% Tummtumm and 5% Snarfblat per rank of Assault Frame
So, the skill has a use by imparting bonuses when wearing that frame type, and the role frames also benefit from your levels in that skill while still having separate role bonuses.
His thread is a bit old. I think there's a case to be made for removing all equipment slots from Assaults, and giving the Basic Frame '1'. The Assault could get then get a bonus to grenade capacity or something like that to compensate. The Basic Frame could keep the basic slot layout of an Assault suit at the same time otherwise, but perhaps the stats could vary somewhat (e.g. - lower shield recharge, or a speed factor slight between Assaults and Logis).
The differences between the suits are further set apart by the bonuses at that point. The Basic Frame allows you to deploy with "some" kind of equipment if you haven't skilled into logis yet, and the Assaults are otherwise locked out of equipment - yet superior in combat.
Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
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SickJ
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.09 02:43:00 -
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I always thought that the point of Medium Frames was that they have no role. Jack of all trades, etc.
Blue/Green = Good |
Red = Bad |
Yellow = Mine
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