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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.08 07:41:00 -
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I enjoy the fact i'll die slower to be honest.
But i won't enjoy using a weapon outclassed even in its optimal by ANY other weapon.
Would a ROF buff help?
Currently ROF for the AR is as follows:
-assault :750 rpm
-Breach:400 rpm
-balac: 857 rpm
What if it became:
-assault:857 rpm
-breach:750 rpm
-balac: 1000 rpm
The other racial weapons would still have range,but this would make the AR comperable within its own optimal.
*reposted from GD
Only users lose drugs.
Time wounds all heels.
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tander09
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
45
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Posted - 2014.03.08 14:57:00 -
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Oh dear...THIS thread again
I wonder how long it takes for the gallente scum to crack CCP into buffing the AR?
Touch my BPO Gear, and you shall perish in the thrusters of a AMARR TITAN!!!!!!!
AMARRIAN4LYFE!
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Megaman Trigger
Knights of Eternal Darkness
League of Infamy
59
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:06:00 -
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Let's see how 1.8 plays out before we start pushing for a return to AR514.
Purifier. First Class.
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Daddrobit
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
576
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:31:00 -
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After the update, the basic AR will already put out more DPS within its optimal than the RR and ARR at 750 RPM, so no. |
Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
99
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:41:00 -
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The AR should be the 'old faithful' weapon. I don't know why ppl QQd so hard at it and got it nerfed into oblivion. Why not just take it out of the game and give me my SP back? Then I'd go proto in the RR like everyone else in Dust. I mean, the AR is getting the axe in 1.8 -again- and nobody was even raging about it.
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1035
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:42:00 -
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I really don't think people understand how good the AR will be in 1.8. In a high TTK environment, the ARs huge clip coupled with its laser-like accuracy will make it very nasty. Right now those advantages don't come into play very much because people die so damn fast, but in 1.8 it will be a solid contender in sustained fights.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
307
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:47:00 -
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AR is perfectly fine, no need to buff it you just need to spend more point in its specs and you will see what shreder it is in roight hands.
Support - Tactician/Support
Deteis - Orator
BHD since MAG
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
99
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:52:00 -
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I've maxed it out and it does shred now, but aren't they lowering the damage on it and making it less effective vs armor? Or did I not read that right?
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1035
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:17:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:I've maxed it out and it does shred now, but aren't they lowering the damage on it and making it less effective vs armor? Or did I not read that right?
They're nerfing all hitscan weapons because they were previously balanced around bad hit detection that was fixed in 1.6. As a result hitscan weapons have been severely out of balance with the other weapons ever since. The base damage nerf is to bring all of these weapons back into balance with the other weapons as they were in 1.4, 1.5. The change vs. armor is across the board to all weapons' proficiency skills that will only bonus vs. armor or shield but not both. This change will generally increase the TTK of all weapons.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2006
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:18:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Let's see how 1.8 plays out before we start pushing for a return to AR514.
Indeed.
The hitscan bullet hoses, all around, have needed a nerf forever. Let's at least test it out.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
307
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:25:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:I've maxed it out and it does shred now, but aren't they lowering the damage on it and making it less effective vs armor? Or did I not read that right?
AR have the SMALLEST dmg nerf from all rifles. Dont worry 
Support - Tactician/Support
Deteis - Orator
BHD since MAG
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
Red Whines
523
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Posted - 2014.03.08 18:44:00 -
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Meee One wrote:I enjoy the fact i'll die slower to be honest.
But i won't enjoy using a weapon outclassed even in its optimal by ANY other weapon.
Would a ROF buff help?
Currently ROF for the AR is as follows:
-assault :750 rpm
-Breach:400 rpm
-balac: 857 rpm
What if it became:
-assault:857 rpm
-breach:750 rpm
-balac: 1000 rpm
The other racial weapons would still have range,but this would make the AR comperable within its own optimal.
*reposted from GD
Now let's ask ourself ONE question : Does AR needs a single buff ?
Answer : NO.
Not for nothing if DUST514 was called AR514 during months.
AR was never nerfed ALWAYS buff here or there.
Too much Gallente scum asking for buff EVERYTIME.
Amarr was supposed to be brick tanking, Gallente got more armor, more ehp AND native Regen and you're still complaining.
AR is always buffed since years , still complaining.
You think we forgot AR was totally OP before RR and CR ? Oh damn god NO.
"oh poor AR blah" it's a joke ?
AR was underdog ONLY when facing others rifles.
And here they got super nerfed (More than AR).
(Exept SCR but he's semi-auto and he maybe lose a lower %damage but still loss somethingl ike 7/8 damage.)
AR don't need a Buff that's All.
He's super Accurate,high Mag, no spread (even more with Gallente assault), high RoF with still great accuracy.
Great iron sights. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10742
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Posted - 2014.03.08 18:49:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:After the update, the basic AR will already put out more DPS within its optimal than the RR and ARR at 750 RPM, so no.
You mean it does 10 more DPS at half the range so it's balanced? Right, right.
And that's just for one weapon. What of the ACR and CR?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1035
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Daddrobit wrote:After the update, the basic AR will already put out more DPS within its optimal than the RR and ARR at 750 RPM, so no. You mean it does 10 more DPS at half the range so it's balanced? Right, right. And that's just for one weapon. What of the ACR and CR?
They will be reloading while you are still hitting them. They have small clips and with increased TTK that will be a major drawback. I'm not saying everything will be perfectly balanced after 1.8, but we really need to see how this all plays out first. We don't need to undo the TTK nerf for just one weapon, it dosent take a genius to figure out what will happen.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
266
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:26:00 -
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Assault rifle is ****
(n+ëGèÖGÇ+GèÖ)n+ën+PpÇÄG£º~TEARS~G£ºpÇÅ 1.8 Laser rifle buff faq will be back to melt all ur sorry ass the good ol chromosomes days.
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