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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:23:00 -
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These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:30:00 -
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They should just scrap 1.8 and redo it, seriously. At least, for what concerns balance and numbers.
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:38:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure.
Yes
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:They should just scrap 1.8 and redo it, seriously. At least, for what concerns balance and numbers.
No, seriously.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
679
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:47:00 -
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The changes to Sentinels and Damage Mods are not the best reasons for refunds. The addition of 8 different suits in a game that has 12 at the moment, giving Heavy and Light players an actual choice in which suit they use, and for Assaults being tied to a specific weapon are far better reasons.
Of course, you should bring this to the Respec Discussion thread. |
Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
1480
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:50:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
Also, InB4Lock
That's the old style. They're on serious damage control mode now.
InB4Deletion
Respec in 1.8 due to huge battlefield role shift for MinLogi!
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
145
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Posted - 2014.03.07 19:56:00 -
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The only reason for a refund would be a major overhaul of the skilltree, similar to the vehicle skilltree changes.
That said, I'd predict exactly that, we might get the same choose class before race change as we had with the vehicles.
So you skill into Heavie suits, then into commando or sentinel, and then into the racial variant...
This would lead into a lot more SP wasted on Suits, if you want to stick with one race...
But anyway, it's only 2-3 more weeks so there is no point in damanding anything... |
Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:32:00 -
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There hasn't been any respecs, not since the Lockingbro War.
*Mandatory Flashback*
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sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:36:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure.
You do realize that there is an official respec thread, right?
If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
695
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:38:00 -
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If I were you, I would be spending your time saving SP rather than QQing on the forum for a respec.
Then again, what do I know -- I'm just sitting here with 4M free SP and biding my time....Leadfoot |
Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:40:00 -
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
1488
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:52:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:If I were you, I would be spending your time saving SP rather than QQing on the forum for a respec.
Then again, what do I know -- I'm just sitting here with 4M free SP and biding my time....Leadfoot
I can do both.
Respec in 1.8 due to huge battlefield role shift for MinLogi!
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Marc Rime
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Posted - 2014.03.07 20:55:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure.
I can't decide whether this is meant to be funny or serious... Well played either way, I guess ;). |
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
882
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:01:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:If I were you, I would be spending your time saving SP rather than QQing on the forum for a respec.
Then again, what do I know -- I'm just sitting here with 4M free SP and biding my time....Leadfoot I can do both.
QQing for a respec but 4 mil SP saved up 'just in case'=full spectrum dominance |
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General Tso's Alliance
88
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:06:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:If I were you, I would be spending your time saving SP rather than QQing on the forum for a respec.
Then again, what do I know -- I'm just sitting here with 4M free SP and biding my time....Leadfoot I can do both. QQing for a respec but 4 mil SP saved up 'just in case'=full spectrum dominance
so uh...
If you expect patch notes soon, you're gunna have a bad time
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2938
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:17:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure.
A respec in 1.8 is something that CPM has been constantly pushing for and I really hope that it is something that CCP has taken to heart.
With changes to address district locking finally here, improvements to FW, and the White Paper landing I do feel that we are making some breakthroughs. I just hope the positive trend can continue.
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
160
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:21:00 -
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The main thing they might respec is dropsuits. Perhaps they may respec equipment and then after that weapons. But they will probably never give you a respec of your core upgrades, unless there are major changes in their bonuses.
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InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
181
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:25:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure. A respec in 1.8 is something that CPM has been constantly pushing for and I really hope that it is something that CCP has taken to heart. With changes to address district locking finally here, improvements to FW, and the White Paper landing I do feel that we are making some breakthroughs. I just hope the positive trend can continue.
Thank you for your effort, especially in making the case to CCP (which should be obvious) as to why a full re-spec is necessary. |
Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:26:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:A respec in 1.8 is something that CPM has been constantly pushing for and I really hope that it is something that CCP has taken to heart.
You and me both Kain, you and me both.
CCP has the ability to set Dust back on path and achieve it's full potential; an infantry SP refund would be a step in the right direction.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:27:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure. A respec in 1.8 is something that CPM has been constantly pushing for and I really hope that it is something that CCP has taken to heart. With changes to address district locking finally here, improvements to FW, and the White Paper landing I do feel that we are making some breakthroughs. I just hope the positive trend can continue.
1.8 soon?
If you expect patch notes soon, you're gunna have a bad time
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:40:00 -
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If you go negative in an IQ test, they let you skip everything!
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
511
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:44:00 -
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full respec ofcourse
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:45:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:full respec ofcourse
All but vehicle respec*
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:45:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:full respec ofcourse
Full infantry refund
1.8 will release...
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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.03.07 23:50:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure.
to be completely honest with you, yes I agree but only because I want new toys due to the changes and don't want
to have to play an uninteresting game for months on end to unlock it! |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:25:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure. A respec in 1.8 is something that CPM has been constantly pushing for and I really hope that it is something that CCP has taken to heart. With changes to address district locking finally here, improvements to FW, and the White Paper landing I do feel that we are making some breakthroughs. I just hope the positive trend can continue.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7230
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:40:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:They should just scrap 1.8 and redo it, seriously. At least, for what concerns balance and numbers.
After all the time and resources put into 1.8? **** no!
Since CCP has gotten this far the least we could do is try it out before we jump to conclusions on it.
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Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:54:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:These changes to damage mods and sentinels are pretty overwhelming, but I think we can cope with them by brick tanking and skilling into the commando, but if there's no Respec, I'm pretty sure 1.8 will be a failure. A respec in 1.8 is something that CPM has been constantly pushing for and I really hope that it is something that CCP has taken to heart. With changes to address district locking finally here, improvements to FW, and the White Paper landing I do feel that we are making some breakthroughs. I just hope the positive trend can continue.
How was fw improved? More defense contracts means...
1.8 will release...
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
301
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:36:00 -
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Full respec, community (include myslelf) was pushed to spent SP in something provisional and now we have a chance to make finaly our suits for our roles. CCPs should listen to us, there is already thread but no info by thme since start. If i will have car and that car will be broken from start, they change it, why CCP have problem to accept this fact. Thats the real quesion. If there will be full respec, that will mean OKI for me. But right now their silence and secrecy is more contraproductive for sure.
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21yrOld Knight
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
526
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:46:00 -
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Would you rather have respec right when the update came out, and spend all your new sp instantly. Or Wait a month to see what the new changes affect game play then make your character perfect.
1.8 must be a porn star because it is taking a long time to come.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1890
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:27:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Would you rather have respec right when the update came out, and spend all your new sp instantly. Or Wait a month to see what the new changes affect game play then make your character perfect.
Don't worry about trying, let them get all thier SP back and dump it in something just to have it changed in a few months and start begging again. I won't even touch mine for at least 2 or 3 weeks after the refund. The tears that will fall, I am currently building an ark if you want in it is 1M ISK per seat, no animals.
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:42:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:They should just scrap 1.8 and redo it, seriously. At least, for what concerns balance and numbers. After all the time and resources put into 1.8? **** no! Since CCP has gotten this far the least we could do is try it out before we jump to conclusions on it.
I do understand, I will surely try it out, but, at least on the paper, 1.8 could be the worst patch since Uprising 1.0 . It's so obvious:
-Tanks are not even being touched afaik,
-Heavies are being buffed again while there was really no need to,
-AV is even weaker both because of the Damage mod nerf and because you're now able to carry only 2 AV/Flux grenades,
-The increased ttk will drive away the poor MLT guys,
-Cloaked-bricktanked scouts.
-Be prepared for the massive heavy spam in the buildings (considering the HMG now have almost double the DPS of any rifle).
-The forge Gun wil be a good Anti Infatry again.
You must agree with me: at least on the paper 1.8 is simply wrong. But, yeah, I'm just theorycrafting here.I really hope I'm wrong.
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
301
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:46:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Would you rather have respec right when the update came out, and spend all your new sp instantly. Or Wait a month to see what the new changes affect game play then make your character perfect. Don't worry about trying, let them get all thier SP back and dump it in something just to have it changed in a few months and start begging again. I won't even touch mine for at least 2 or 3 weeks after the refund. The tears that will fall, I am currently building an ark if you want in it is 1M ISK per seat, no animals.
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