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X7 lion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 15:40:00 -
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the game is broken at the moment, because alot of the fun in dust comes from team work, but the game dose not allow for proper coordination emphasis on team work, even in minor ways. this needs to change or the game will remain no fun no matter what features get added
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:06:00 -
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This is very vague, I don't see how this feedback will help at all. List the specific mechanics that are broken, and specifically how they are broken, and maybe suggestions on how to fix them.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:16:00 -
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What KAGEHOSHI said.
Also, the 1.8 update that's releasing this month will be overhauling a lot of things in the game including suits, equipment, and weapons. I suggest you reserve your judgment until it comes out.
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X7 lion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:39:00 -
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your ignorance is amazing
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:57:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:your ignorance is amazing
What ignorance?
We're not the one posting vague threads with no details of the issues you're trying to refer to. I post threads of the issues as well just like you but at least I make the effort to post all the details about it. If I had the resources for it I would even post a video about it on YouTube like how Judge Radhamanthus or CEOPyrex does it, but alas I don't have those resources so I'm relegated to just posting threads with specific details.
And again, so many changes are coming in 1.8 that any problems we have now may be either gone or become overshadowed by new problems in 1.8. Again, reserve judgement until it releases.
And please, don't call us ignorant just because we asked you for details.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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X7 lion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 16:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:What KAGEHOSHI said.
Also, the 1.8 update that's releasing this month will be overhauling a lot of things in the game including suits, equipment, and weapons. I suggest you reserve your judgment until it comes out.
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You shall only feel the strike of my blade.
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X7 lion
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:00:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:X7 lion wrote:your ignorance is amazing What ignorance? We're not the one posting vague threads with no details of the issues you're trying to refer to. I post threads of the issues as well just like you but at least I make the effort to post all the details about it. If I had the resources for it I would even post a video about it on YouTube like how Judge Radhamanthus or CEOPyrex does it, but alas I don't have those resources so I'm relegated to just posting threads with specific details. And again, so many changes are coming in 1.8 that any problems we have now may be either gone or become overshadowed by new problems in 1.8. Again, reserve judgement until it releases. And please, don't call us ignorant just because we asked you for details.
sorry if im grouchy it made scene to me & can you really blame me for been snappy at people on the forums there so much bs its easy to assume the wrost of people
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1981
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:03:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:X7 lion wrote:your ignorance is amazing What ignorance? We're not the one posting vague threads with no details of the issues you're trying to refer to. I post threads of the issues as well just like you but at least I make the effort to post all the details about it. If I had the resources for it I would even post a video about it on YouTube like how Judge Radhamanthus or CEOPyrex does it, but alas I don't have those resources so I'm relegated to just posting threads with specific details. And again, so many changes are coming in 1.8 that any problems we have now may be either gone or become overshadowed by new problems in 1.8. Again, reserve judgement until it releases. And please, don't call us ignorant just because we asked you for details. sorry if im grouchy it made scene to me & can you really blame me for been snappy at people on the forums there so much bs its easy to assume the wrost of people
Agreed that the forums can be toxic. That being said would you mind elaborating now on the specific issues you're speaking off? Granted there are issues out there no doubt, and I'm all for more team focused play and more support for that, but let's not assume here let's talk details.
What are the problems you're seeing? Where do they occur most often? Do you have any thoughts on how to correct them?
Cheers,
Cross
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Adelia Lafayette
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:05:00 -
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your asking for a way to communicate without voice comms. Something I've asked for and is buried in this forum somewhere.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7216
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:09:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:its quite simple really alot of the balance issues come from the fact every one is for them self not the team, if every one played as a team and used there strengths to synergise there would be minimal balance issues in dust
Well here's the thing.
Even though Dust is suppose to encourage teamwork at some level, Dust also allows you freedom to be a lone wolf. Teamwork is not something I expect in pub match, but it is something I expected to see in places like Planetary Conquest (which is broken btw) and FW (which needs some overhauling).
The reason PC is broken is because right now almost all of the districts are locked and turned into ATM machines with minimal effort and thus too much ISK circulating in the market.
The reason FW needs overhauling is because there is lack of certain things in all races such as no Amarrian heavy weapons for Amarr players and the HMG is Minmatar while the Forge Gun is Caldari. I use a Minja suit, but my suit is Minmatar while my Knives are Caldari but funny enough the Caldari LP store doesn't sell knives, etc.
Anyways, back to the topic about teamwork. If I wanted to see teamwork in action in pub matches, then my suggestion is for CCP to bring back Skirmish 1.0 or at least introduce a game mode that's just like Skirmish 1.0. We also need a more robust NPE that puts a lot of emphasis and rewards players for working as a team.
But beyond that, all players should have the right to be lone wolves if they so choose.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.07 17:12:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:X7 lion wrote:your ignorance is amazing What ignorance? We're not the one posting vague threads with no details of the issues you're trying to refer to. I post threads of the issues as well just like you but at least I make the effort to post all the details about it. If I had the resources for it I would even post a video about it on YouTube like how Judge Radhamanthus or CEOPyrex does it, but alas I don't have those resources so I'm relegated to just posting threads with specific details. And again, so many changes are coming in 1.8 that any problems we have now may be either gone or become overshadowed by new problems in 1.8. Again, reserve judgement until it releases. And please, don't call us ignorant just because we asked you for details. sorry if im grouchy it made scene to me & can you really blame me for been snappy at people on the forums there so much bs its easy to assume the wrost of people
Actually yes, I can blame you. You had the opportunity to analyze the replies given to you but instead you jumped the gun. Would you not blame a driver for running the red light because he was texting a driving?
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:02:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:the game is broken at the moment, because alot of the fun in dust comes from team work, but the game dose not allow for proper coordination emphasis on team work, even in minor ways. this needs to change or the game will remain no fun no matter what features get added
What exactly are you talking about, specifically?
And how exactly do you propose fixing it?
Not to be rude, but to me, proposing solutions is what separates whining from constructive feedback. Anyone can come and cry "broken" on the forums.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:51:00 -
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The game has no support for actual team play. It never has had any.
That is reserved for PC matches. There is a Field Commander (or some such depending on the Corp) and they run the squads. Of course many think that PC is busted, even CCP as fixes are due Real Soon Now.
Squad matters, Teams don't. That is how Dust514 works. Information is only shared with a squad, never the Team.
If you want change then what would it take to make the focus different? Recall that too many in a voice chat will generate lag, black screens, disconnects and crashes. So be careful of what you wish for.
Right now the only solution at hand is to play PC. Many like it. Many don't. Friendly fire and sabotage is rampant as we are in New Eden and ganking is the universal balancing tool for EVE.
If you haven't played PC then give it a try and post again. You will have to run Pubs to make ISK or get good enough for a Corp to give you a paycheck. Of course that is going to change because the bank machine of the locked district exploit is being removed from PC.
Good Luck.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.07 18:55:00 -
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As you can see, X7 Lion, we're not ignorant. Many of us originated from the Eve Online forums which is where we have a lot of detailed and intelligent discussions on anything regarding the game mechanics on the most complicated game in existence (Eve Online). We analyze every detail down to its mathematical properties. Hell, because of us, Dust514 has now become Math514. Just look at the graphs and spreadsheets we put out every now and then.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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X7 lion
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:00:00 -
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i have done alot of indepth well thought out posts only reason i posted this like this, is because im getting to the end of my tether with it all.
I am death incarnate, you will not see me or hear me.
You shall only feel the strike of my blade.
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