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Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 764	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:44:00 - [1] - Quote Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. Caldari are masters of hand to hand combat.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1981	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:45:00 - [2] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You should be happy with what you got :( freaking ion pistol.. For the Federation!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10566	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:48:00 - [3] - Quote I agree, actually. It's not going to work very well with charging before shots. But with an instant fire it's going to feel like a very satisfying weapon to use. I'm quite convinced it wouldn't be OP either. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 44	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:51:00 - [4] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. With the exception of most sniper rifles, every caldari weapon has had a spool up time. maybe the operation skill can reduce that time? If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10569	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:53:00 - [5] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. With the exception of most sniper rifles, every caldari weapon has had a spool up time. maybe the operation skill can reduce that time? Much like the sniper, no spool-up time is necessary on the bolt pistol. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 475	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:59:00 - [6] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 44	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:00:00 - [7] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 475	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:04:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: sebastian the huds wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. With the exception of most sniper rifles, every caldari weapon has had a spool up time. maybe the operation skill can reduce that time? Much like the sniper, no spool-up time is necessary on the bolt pistol. It was talked about before, with devs involved I'm fairly sure, that they were thinking of including a charge mechanic, the same as the charge sniper rifle, into all the Caldari sniper rifles. Of course, that was a long time ago, but seeing as sniper rifles haven't had any love in the time I've been playing, it might still be brought in and bring them into line with all the other railguns in Dust.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 767	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:05:00 - [9] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. It is full auto. I assumed it was going to be like magnum in BF4. I want it to be like magnum in BF3. Caldari are masters of hand to hand combat.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2546	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:05:00 - [10] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. I think it is. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 475	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:08:00 - [11] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. It is full auto. There's a .24 second charge up delay on holding the trigger and then it fires with a 150rpm. Not very fast, but with only 6 rounds and 135 damage on the basic with a 45m optimal it'll be an interesting sidearm.
sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 45	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:10:00 - [12] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. It is full auto. There's a .24 second charge up delay on holding the trigger and then it fires with a 150rpm. Not very fast, but with only 6 rounds and 135 damage on the basic with a 45m optimal it'll be an interesting sidearm. Basically a full auto breach scrambler pistol? Sounds fair if the rate of fire is brought up from sniper rifle to pistol. If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 475	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:16:00 - [13] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. It is full auto. There's a .24 second charge up delay on holding the trigger and then it fires with a 150rpm. Not very fast, but with only 6 rounds and 135 damage on the basic with a 45m optimal it'll be an interesting sidearm. Basically a full auto breach scrambler pistol? Sounds fair if the rate of fire is brought up from sniper rifle to pistol. Pretty much. I'm looking forward to messing around with it.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1919	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:17:00 - [14] - Quote sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. It is. But after every shot, it has to go through a .1 second charge up. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 475	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:26:00 - [15] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. It is. But after every shot, it has to go through a .1 second charge up. I don't know where you're getting the .1 second charge up between shots. Once the trigger is pulled and held, with the initial .25 second charge up done, the first shot fires and then there is a .4 of a second space between the follow up shots until the ammo is gone or the trigger is released. On paper the gun actually fires faster on tapping out single fire shots than holding down the trigger.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1923	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:39:00 - [16] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: sebastian the huds wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Please make it semi automatic. CCP, don't assume people are just praying and spraying - it was supposed to be a "skill cannon". The charge up time can still remain but it must not have a delay after pressing the button and the gun firing. You're a bit confusing/confused in this post. You're happy for the charge up time(the delay before firing the first shot) staying, but you don't want a delay between pulling the trigger and firing a shot out of what is a very powerful, long range handgun He had me under the impression it was full auto. It is. But after every shot, it has to go through a .1 second charge up. I don't know where you're getting the .1 second charge up between shots. Once the trigger is pulled and held, with the initial .25 second charge up done, the first shot fires and then there is a .4 of a second space between the follow up shots until the ammo is gone or the trigger is released. On paper the gun actually fires faster on tapping out single fire shots than holding down the trigger. I remember crazy DEV blog of Forum rage incorrectly perhaps. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Oswald Rehnquist 1272	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:45:00 - [17] - Quote .25 prefire charge for initial shot, .4 second between shots while holding trigger during autofire (back to op) That being the case, I am actually ok with the prefire charge up as this changes it's nature greatly between the other pistols. The other pistols have whip out functionality, whereas the bolt will be a better flanking pistol using its range against already engaged targets. If anything I'd have the other stats changed and keep the prefire. Below 28 dB
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4514	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:59:00 - [18] - Quote The Bolt pistol fairest faster when you use it semi-auto than in full-auto. Anyways the Breach Scrambler Pistol is better because of the headshot bonus, which the Bolt Pistol lacks. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 356	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:08:00 - [19] - Quote Plus the art for it is horrendous. The ion pistol looks cool at least, to bad it has awful stats and will suck.


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