DUST Search - I dont get it....

True Adamance wrote:

Seigfried Warheit wrote:

Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:

Because the original idea of the game was for EVE and Dust514 to be the same, racial profiles were made on EVE, and being as those profiles/styles/ideas already exist they should and must transfer over to another game set in the same universe, ESPECIALLY when its all taking place at the same time.
Dust affects EVE, and Eve affects Dust, therefore the rules of the EVE universe should apply to the Dust universe because they are in fact the same exact universe in the exact same time frame. Saying that the rules that apply to racial variants of stuff in eve shouldn't apply to dust is stupid. That's like saying that weapon classes in call of duty or battlefield shouldn't be anything like their real life counterparts, or saying that weapons and ideas in the Warhammer series shouldn't correlate to each other, and that the lore and back story of a game doesn't matter.

Yes i understand that you are talking about space ships and infantry but my point is valid, Weapons and suits should behave the same as they do in other parts of the universe in the game. AS Dust is a PART of EVE, not a completely separate game. There is a reason its called " EVE : Dust514 " and interacts with EVE. It is not just Dust514 it is a part of New Eden.

When creating a universe with multiple games, one does not simply abandon the rules of the first game set in the universe just because it "doesn't make sense" if a rule about a group has been created in a universe it applies to every corresponding game set in the same universe.

Weapons and suits should behave the same as they do for all parts of the universe..yes it should...I might be wrong but I have never heard of EVE pilots putting on dropsuits and ARs,shotguns..etc and battling each other to the death. This is the first time that technology from EVE has been modified and used to battle infantry vs infantry on ground where you control the merc right? So you don't know how its suppose to behave cause its not been used this way before. You expect tech to still behave the same after it has been modified for a different purpose? DUST tech cant behave like EVE tech 100% which is what EVE players seem to want..its not gonna happen. I never said lore and back-story doesn't matter obviously it does and has a role in the development of DUST. However, whether you like it or not DUST will have its own rules that apply to DUST and DUST only because DUST is a FPS a different game genre from EVE and on a console not a computer ...it cant keep up with EVE.

EVE pilots essentially do....they put on ships like we do dropsuits, their bodies are their capsules, their ships their dropsuits, their AR pulse lasers and Railguns.

If this is the first time tech has been modified it would be micro sized tried and tested working combat equipment, thus almost exactly the same function and effectiveness as space borne weapons......modified for atomospheric conditions.

Dust 514 needs to be more like EVE, less like a traditional FPS.

FPS alone is boring, MMO RPG FPS.....all three combined= fun.


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Onesimus Tarsus Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1413	Posted - 2014.03.06 22:50:00 - [1] - Quote No idea. Experience has shown me that the passion for aligning with in-game lore is strong here. Really, I often thought that having all four races release a different "take" on the same equipment was questionable. Don't let it concern you too much. Some things are just part of the experience, and little else. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Onesimus Tarsus Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1414	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:05:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Seigfried Warheit wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Because the original idea of the game was for EVE and Dust514 to be the same, racial profiles were made on EVE, and being as those profiles/styles/ideas already exist they should and must transfer over to another game set in the same universe, ESPECIALLY when its all taking place at the same time. Dust affects EVE, and Eve affects Dust, therefore the rules of the EVE universe should apply to the Dust universe because they are in fact the same exact universe in the exact same time frame. Saying that the rules that apply to racial variants of stuff in eve shouldn't apply to dust is stupid. That's like saying that weapon classes in call of duty or battlefield shouldn't be anything like their real life counterparts, or saying that weapons and ideas in the Warhammer series shouldn't correlate to each other, and that the lore and back story of a game doesn't matter. Yes i understand that you are talking about space ships and infantry but my point is valid, Weapons and suits should behave the same as they do in other parts of the universe in the game. AS Dust is a PART of EVE, not a completely separate game. There is a reason its called " EVE : Dust514 " and interacts with EVE. It is not just Dust514 it is a part of New Eden. When creating a universe with multiple games, one does not simply abandon the rules of the first game set in the universe just because it "doesn't make sense" if a rule about a group has been created in a universe it applies to every corresponding game set in the same universe. Weapons and suits should behave the same as they do for all parts of the universe..yes it should...I might be wrong but I have never heard of EVE pilots putting on dropsuits and ARs,shotguns..etc and battling each other to the death. This is the first time that technology from EVE has been modified and used to battle infantry vs infantry on ground where you control the merc right? So you don't know how its suppose to behave cause its not been used this way before. You expect tech to still behave the same after it has been modified for a different purpose? DUST tech cant behave like EVE tech 100% which is what EVE players seem to want..its not gonna happen. I never said lore and back-story doesn't matter obviously it does and has a role in the development of DUST. However, whether you like it or not DUST will have its own rules that apply to DUST and DUST only because DUST is a FPS a different game genre from EVE and on a console not a computer ...it cant keep up with EVE. EVE pilots essentially do....they put on ships like we do dropsuits, their bodies are their capsules, their ships their dropsuits, their AR pulse lasers and Railguns. If this is the first time tech has been modified it would be micro sized tried and tested working combat equipment, thus almost exactly the same function and effectiveness as space borne weapons......modified for atomospheric conditions. Dust 514 needs to be more like EVE, less like a traditional FPS. FPS alone is boring, MMO RPG FPS.....all three combined= fun. You will quantum-mail us from the future when that happens, right? Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Onesimus Tarsus Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1414	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:11:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: quantum mailing from the future? doesnt work that way should be more quantum mailing of now. It does work that way, but your people won't discover that for a few centuries. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Onesimus Tarsus Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1414	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:35:00 - [4] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: EVE is fairly well balanced. DUST is not. We're just asking for them to apply the same amount of love and attention to their infantry game. They're trying to apply the same amount of love and effort. It just takes time. Eve as it is now has been built, tweaked and added to over 10+ years Dust isn't even at 1 year from official release yet (and arguably was released before it really should have been). Argueably? Sorry, but DUST was released when it should still b in CB. Love the game to death, but its dead honest. So true. I can love the pictures my nieces made me on my fridge (for all the same reasons one might love DUST), but I won't mistake them for Johannes Vermeer's "girl with an earring". Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...