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GamersForChrist
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:06:00 -
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Discuss
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
131
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:08:00 -
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not in my opinion
in fact sniper rifles are going to suck now (kind of)
bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
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Patrick57
5774
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:08:00 -
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Not as much.
Zatara hates me :(
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2720
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:09:00 -
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If you notice, weapons are not going to be nerfed equally.
Combat and Rail Rilfe are going to be hit harder, if I'm not mistaking.
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:11:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:If you notice, weapons are not going to be nerfed equally.
Combat and Rail Rilfe are going to be hit harder, if I'm not mistaking.
Are you back?! :O |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:11:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:If you notice, weapons are not going to be nerfed equally.
Combat and Rail Rilfe are going to be hit harder, if I'm not mistaking.
Not by much, though. As it happens, the assault combat rifle will still outDPS the shorter ranged plasma rifle in addition to having a better RoF, range, and preferable damage type. 
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:12:00 -
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their all being nerfed but the good part of this is
the change to damage mods and weapon pro damage
IMO CR and AR were hit the hardest
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Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:27:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:If you notice, weapons are not going to be nerfed equally.
Combat and Rail Rilfe are going to be hit harder, if I'm not mistaking. Not by much, though. As it happens, the assault combat rifle will still outDPS the shorter ranged plasma rifle in addition to having a better RoF, range, and preferable damage type.
i heard they would be nerfing the range on CR and making RR ineffective at CQC though
and no, it looks like the SR was hit the hardest
bamboo x (Federation Specialist Duvolle Assault Rifle) you
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:32:00 -
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Rail rifle isn't op,
Combat rifle will still remain op.
Combat rifle being 1200 rpm at 30-31 damage
And rail rifle being 400 around 51-52 damage the combat rifle does 1.5 times the damage the rail rifle does. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:43:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Rail rifle isn't op,
Combat rifle will still remain op.
Combat rifle being 1200 rpm at 30-31 damage
And rail rifle being 400 around 51-52 damage the combat rifle does 1.5 times the damage the rail rifle does.
And none of that matters when the RR out ranges every other rifle.
CCP your matchmaking still sucks.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
805
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:50:00 -
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New standard AR will have a damage of 30, and a ROF of 750. This makes for 375 DPS.
New standard RR will have 47 damage at 461.54 ROF. This gives 361 DPS.
The RR will still deal similar DPS as the AR with twice the range. The problems will continue, only it will take a little longer to kill. We're not where we need to be, but we're closer than we were in 1.7.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:51:00 -
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we'll just have to wait and see. im hoping the AR will actually be better at cqc/mid-ranged combat now even though the stats dont seem to say so...
Assault Gk.0
Gallente Federation Patriot
General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
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huopiang
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:56:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:If you notice, weapons are not going to be nerfed equally.
Combat and Rail Rilfe are going to be hit harder, if I'm not mistaking.
This. But your logic would be correct if everything was to be nerfed proportionally |
huopiang
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:57:00 -
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huopiang wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:If you notice, weapons are not going to be nerfed equally.
Combat and Rail Rilfe are going to be hit harder, if I'm not mistaking. This. But your logic would be correct if everything was to be nerfed proportionally
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Atheor Sindromer
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
58
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:10:00 -
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To be honest I never thought Rail Rifles were OP to begin with. I always use an Assault Scrambler Rifle and have won most of my 1v1's with RR users, sometimes even at longer ranges.
If you think RR's are OP it's probably just because the player who killed you outplayed you and happened to use a Rail Rifle (which, not surprisingly, is 75% of Dust players).
Love the sinner, hate the Sindromer.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3340
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:20:00 -
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The RR was never OP. With the changes, it will make that fact abundant as CR will begin to grow its domination when the less faithful switch to CRs for more damage output.
And for the record, weapons weren't nerfed equally. If you look at the difference percentage, the RRs are the highest.
Such a shame what they have done to my RR but I keep the faith...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:31:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Rail rifle isn't op,
Combat rifle will still remain op.
Combat rifle being 1200 rpm at 30-31 damage
And rail rifle being 400 around 51-52 damage the combat rifle does 1.5 times the damage the rail rifle does. And none of that matters when the RR out ranges every other rifle.
It does when a combat rifle will kill out to 60-70meters and is the best rifle at close range. |
Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1912
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:39:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:New standard AR will have a damage of 30, and a ROF of 750. This makes for 375 DPS.
New standard RR will have 47 damage at 461.54 ROF. This gives 361 DPS.
The RR will still deal similar DPS as the AR with twice the range. The problems will continue, only it will take a little longer to kill. We're not where we need to be, but we're closer than we were in 1.7.
But in CQC, a RR will lose to a AR given all shots hit because that slight DPS difference, and the charge time difference.
Range- Winner, RR
CQC/In AR Range- Winner AR
Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
768
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:The RR was never OP. With the changes, it will make that fact abundant as CR will begin to grow its domination when the less faithful switch to CRs for more damage output.
And for the record, weapons weren't nerfed equally. If you look at the difference percentage, the RRs are the highest.
Such a shame what they have done to my RR but I keep the faith...
This
Nemo me impune lacessit
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1333
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:40:00 -
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to the op
guns aren't being nerfed equally. what do you mean? |
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
651
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:40:00 -
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They are not being nerfed equally. Take a look at the table. The RR (and a few others) are getting hit harder by the nerf bat. |
Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:50:00 -
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Atheor Sindromer wrote:To be honest I never thought Rail Rifles were OP to begin with. I always use an Assault Scrambler Rifle and have won most of my 1v1's with RR users, sometimes even at longer ranges.
If you think RR's are OP it's probably just because the player who killed you outplayed you and happened to use a Rail Rifle (which, not surprisingly, is 75% of Dust players).
By outplayed, do you mean stacked damage mods and killed me before I could react? Or do you mean killed me with a heavy as I try to chew through his armour... with my cartham assault scrambler rifle?
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2728
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Posted - 2014.03.06 11:27:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:If you notice, weapons are not going to be nerfed equally.
Combat and Rail Rilfe are going to be hit harder, if I'm not mistaking. Are you back?! :O
Ahahah no, I just heard about the Dev Blog and I checked the news.
I'm still on these Forums sometimes because I got many friends in the italian section, so it just takes a minute for me to check GD and Announcements/Events to see if something is happening.
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
65
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Posted - 2014.03.06 12:31:00 -
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The CR was nerfed the hardest at 15%
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1107
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Posted - 2014.03.06 13:22:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Rail rifle isn't op,
Combat rifle will still remain op.
Combat rifle being 1200 rpm at 30-31 damage
And rail rifle being 400 around 51-52 damage the combat rifle does 1.5 times the damage the rail rifle does. And none of that matters when the RR out ranges every other rifle.
at 60-70 M range CR still owns RR... Isn't CR supposed to be a CQC and mid range Master weapon ?! |
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