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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.05 19:23:00 -
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Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why.
I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? 
You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what (I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year.
So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time.
I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone.
Love & Respect.
My Channel : Valhalla South
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1331
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Posted - 2014.03.05 19:27:00 -
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not as much as the rail rifle or combat rifle. |
Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
531
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Posted - 2014.03.05 19:29:00 -
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low genius wrote:not as much as the rail rifle or combat rifle.
Not as much what bro?
The RR & CR are the flavor of the month. We have had many flavors of the month since beta.
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
544
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Posted - 2014.03.05 19:35:00 -
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Right and keep in mind the nerf to the SCR is particularly scary because of its limited shots before overheat. You start to get dangerously close to a scenario where SCR users cant kill brick tanked assaults without overheating even if they land all their shots...
SO it doesnt need the DPS nerf as bad, because lowering the DPS a bit increases chances to overheat so a 7% DPS nerf on the ScR could actually be even worse than the 15 or so on the other two. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1898
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Posted - 2014.03.05 19:44:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect.
All of the hitscan bullet hoses need a significant nerf. CCP is moving in the right direction. The AR has been one of the worst offenders for far too long. |
Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
531
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Posted - 2014.03.05 19:50:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. All of the hitscan bullet hoses need a significant nerf. CCP is moving in the right direction. The AR has been one of the worst offenders for far too long.
Please.. Stop this nonsense and open your eyes.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1899
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Posted - 2014.03.05 19:57:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. All of the hitscan bullet hoses need a significant nerf. CCP is moving in the right direction. The AR has been one of the worst offenders for far too long. Please.. Stop this nonsense and open your eyes.
They've been open for some time now. The AA needs a nerf too, and really most of the hitscan weapons should be converted to projectile physics as well.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3353
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:02:00 -
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low genius wrote:not as much as the rail rifle or combat rifle.
Not really. Armour tanking is the way to go these days, so proficiency vs shields for the AR is another effective nerf.
No.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1971
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:04:00 -
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The real question is why doesn't the AR have the highest DPS... it's like CCP just keep missing that one tiny detail.
For the Federation!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2752
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:08:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect.
All the Infantry Rifles were nerfed. The RR and CR were nerfed more than the AR. This translates to a buff to the AR in comparison to the RR and CR.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
258
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:09:00 -
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they are nerfing it so it doesnt have any kind of advantage over the other rifles
We speak the Dragon's language of flame and rage. Together we shall weave a tale of destruction without equal...
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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
531
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:18:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. All the Infantry Rifles were nerfed. The RR and CR were nerfed more than the AR. This translates to a buff to the AR in comparison to the RR and CR.
You can not compare the CR & RR with the AR in 1.7. Am getting better results with the RR now with no skill points than with my AR with everything on level 5. The RR is probably the most OP weapon I have ever seen in this game (and there-Šs plenty to chose from..)
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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
531
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:24:00 -
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Phazoid wrote:they are nerfing it so it doesnt have any kind of advantage over the other rifles
Like I said..
The AR is a weapon that so many new players grab instantly when moving other from other games so it needs to be decent.
The AR is getting -11.8 while the RR & the CR is getting 15.8 and the RR -13.3 - 14.5.
What weapon would you guess will still be the OP one after 1.8 ? 
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1259
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:25:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:The real question is why doesn't the AR have the highest DPS... it's like CCP just keep missing that one tiny detail.
Right. That's one thing I'm not happy about.
Imo, they could keep the nerf they have now while buffing the RoF, it would work out a lot better.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
259
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:27:00 -
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None
We speak the Dragon's language of flame and rage. Together we shall weave a tale of destruction without equal...
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Onesimus Tarsus
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1398
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:29:00 -
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How to know what weapon is most powerful:
Read a scout's die-feed.
Unless you're just addicted to wetsuit paperdolls...
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
568
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:38:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:How to know what weapon is most powerful:
Read a scout's die-feed.
"Stiff breeze"
"Shadow fell on him"
"Bumped into a wall"
"Stung by a bee"
The list goes on...
Life is killing me.
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Onesimus Tarsus
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1400
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:41:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:How to know what weapon is most powerful:
Read a scout's die-feed. "Stiff breeze" "Shadow fell on him" "Bumped into a wall" "Stung by a bee" "Skilled into scout"The list goes on...
Unless you're just addicted to wetsuit paperdolls...
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
569
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:43:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Everything Dies wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:How to know what weapon is most powerful:
Read a scout's die-feed. "Stiff breeze" "Shadow fell on him" "Bumped into a wall" "Stung by a bee" "Skilled into scout"The list goes on...
Seriously...I might have to equip a cloak just so I can go and sob quietly in the corner.
Life is killing me.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
156
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:44:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect.
They are attempting to increase the TTK, so it's not really a nerf. The AR is actually getting a buff, since it's only losing like 8% damage, compared to the RRs 15% nerf (thank god)
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Onesimus Tarsus
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1400
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:44:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Everything Dies wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:How to know what weapon is most powerful:
Read a scout's die-feed. "Stiff breeze" "Shadow fell on him" "Bumped into a wall" "Stung by a bee" "Skilled into scout"The list goes on... Seriously...I might have to equip a cloak just so I can go and sob quietly in the corner.
Sob-scanners in 1.8, if you haven't heard.
Unless you're just addicted to wetsuit paperdolls...
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
803
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:45:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. I started using the AR on one of my fits and it seems pretty balanced to me. Sure I still prefer my SMG (getting nurfed T_T) but I can't deny the flexibility that is the AR from time to time.
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
246
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:53:00 -
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Depending iif the percentage values of the Rail Rifle nerf are overtime or just damage per shot, The RR might be nerfed far more then the dev blog leads on..
Yet, with the mechanic changes and the brick armor tanking the AR will feel the pinch until shields become FOTM.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1902
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:05:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
429
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:10:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. They are attempting to increase the TTK, so it's not really a nerf. The AR is actually getting a buff, since it's only losing like 8% damage, compared to the RRs 15% nerf (thank god)
So... to increase TTK... they buff Mass Drivers and keep HMGs the same... good idea!
The laser rifle on the other hand actually did need a buff.
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ConantheCimmerian
Terrestrial Suppression Force
Lokun Listamenn
22
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:15:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. All of the hitscan bullet hoses need a significant nerf. CCP is moving in the right direction. The AR has been one of the worst offenders for far too long.
what? haha the AR a bullet hose....ive dumped full clips with 3x damage mods @ 25 meters and still dont do enough damage to deal with brick tanks. **** THE AR. Im so done with it.
Alt-ConanTheArmored
Eve Pilot-The Black Corsair
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:17:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. All the Infantry Rifles were nerfed. The RR and CR were nerfed more than the AR. This translates to a buff to the AR in comparison to the RR and CR. Edit: It could however be argued that this is not enough of a relative buff to balance it against the other Infantry Rifles. There will most likely have to be another round of adjustments in the following patch.
There always is. I think certain CPM should be shot. They are the most worthless group of representatives I have ever seen. CCP is pretty clueless when it comes to FPS and console games. They do more work fixing the things they adjust than providing content. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1903
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:20:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Ok.. so the news is that the AR is getting nerfed and I don-Št understand why. I-Šve been using this weapon since beta and at the same time gone through several changes in that time. I really thought CCP hit the spot when it was tuned last time but obviously I was wrong? You see.. The AR is not like other weapons in this game. This gun is what ( I presume) most of us use and/or have used at one point since this game came out. It is also the weapon new players will grab when coming over from other shooters. The AR is a classic and has been dealt with now for more than a year. So why are we seeing yet another nerf for a weapon that works just fine? Why mess with something most of us vets agree on being in the right place where it is now? One would think there are other things more important to fix but no.. For some reason the gang at CCP see a reason to touch it one more time. I strongly recommend that you, the developers rethink this silly idea and leave the AR the way it is. Stop this nonsense and get on with what really needs some work in Dust. Fix the RR. Fix the CR. Fix whatever needs to be fixed but leave the Assault Rifle alone. Love & Respect. They are attempting to increase the TTK, so it's not really a nerf. The AR is actually getting a buff, since it's only losing like 8% damage, compared to the RRs 15% nerf (thank god) So... to increase TTK... they buff Mass Drivers and keep HMGs the same... good idea! The laser rifle on the other hand actually did need a buff.
It's the bullet hoses that determine TTK though. The mass driver has never even come close to delivering the kind of dps that the bullet hoses do.
I don't run a heavy enough to be able to comment directly in the HMG other than to say that medium suits should live in fear of a heavy with an HMG. Currently they laugh instead.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
157
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:33:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:Depending iif the percentage values of the Rail Rifle nerf are overtime or just damage per shot, The RR might be nerfed far more then the dev blog leads on..
Yet, with the mechanic changes and the brick armor tanking the AR will feel the pinch until shields become FOTM.
And then my KD/R WILL skyrocket due to my assault scrambler rifle...
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1333
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:01:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:low genius wrote:not as much as the rail rifle or combat rifle. Not as much what bro? The RR & CR are the flavor of the month. We have had many flavors of the month since beta.
the ar isn't being nerfed as much as the rr and cr. bro. |
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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
531
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:38:00 -
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low genius wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:low genius wrote:not as much as the rail rifle or combat rifle. Not as much what bro? The RR & CR are the flavor of the month. We have had many flavors of the month since beta. the ar isn't being nerfed as much as the rr and cr. bro.
The RR & CR are obviously OP but the AR is not so what are you talking about? The difference between -11.8 and -15.8 is not a lot is it? -13.3 for the SL-4..
But I guess we will find out how balanced those guns will be once 1.8 comes out.
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