DUST Search - The "gaylock n00btube" versus an amarr sentinel in 1.8

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

amarr sentinel-300x1.25 shields=375 shields
600x 1.25+3(135x1.1)=1196 armor
25% resistance to splash damage
(375x1.2x1.25)=563 damage required to overcome shields
(1196x.8x1.25)=1196 damage required to overcome armor
563+1196=1759 damage required from flay lock to kill amarr sentinel
damage per clip of flaylock=164*3=492 damage per clip
1759/492=3.6 clips, or 11 rounds to kill an amarr sentinel THE ARMOR TANKED SENTINEL WEAK TO EXPLOSIVES
at 3 seconds per reload, this is 9 seconds+11*delay between shots seconds to kill a heavy with a flay lock, assuming every round hits

You've taken an Amarr Sentinel with triple Complex Armor Plate.
Not sure everyone will fit a 3x Complex plate. Maybe some Biotics will be fitted on it.
With Level 5 of Armor AND shields.
ADV (But not with 3x complex plate) PRO suit (certianely PRO).

And compaired it with a STD secondary weapon with no damager and no Proficiency.
OF course it will take a long time to kill !!!!!!

I mean....come on if you want to compair Flaylocks with these ehp values and tier value (Complex plates AND PRO suit)
You must take the PRO Flaylock with some damager AND some proficiency. THEN it will be a real comparaison.

Oh and....All Sentinel suits are MEANT to be explosive resistant.
Trying to kill an Heavy with an explosive weapon in 1.8 is like trynig to kill an assault with swars launcher.......
Amarr sentinel is NOT the Explosive weak sentinel.

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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1045	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:17:00 - [1] - Quote amarr sentinel-300x1.25 shields=375 shields 600x 1.25+3(135x1.1)=1196 armor 25% resistance to splash damage (375x1.2x1.25)=563 damage required to overcome shields (1196x.8x1.25)=1196 damage required to overcome armor 563+1196=1759 damage required from flay lock to kill amarr sentinel damage per clip of flaylock=1643=492 damage per clip 1759/492=3.6 clips, or 11 rounds to kill an amarr sentinel THE ARMOR TANKED SENTINEL WEAK TO EXPLOSIVES at 3 seconds per reload, this is 9 seconds+11delay between shots seconds to kill a heavy with a flay lock, assuming every round hits Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 905	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:26:00 - [2] - Quote Why would you use a flaylock against a heavy in 1.8? "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1049	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:27:00 - [3] - Quote Now factor in projectile speed causing about 1 of 3 shots to miss entirely, and the amarr heavy is unkillable with a flay lock pistol What I'm trying to say is- BUFF THE FLAYLOCK! Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1208	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:28:00 - [4] - Quote direct hits do full damage and dont suffer the25% penalty :P better hope for body shots :P
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3311	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:28:00 - [5] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Why would you use a flaylock against a heavy in 1.8? Why would you use a flaylock at all? No.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 906	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:29:00 - [6] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Now factor in projectile speed causing about 1 of 3 shots to miss entirely, and the amarr heavy is unkillable with a flay lock pistol What I'm trying to say is- BUFF THE FLAYLOCK! While I support the reasons to buff the flaylock your argument is flawed as you abdicating its use on the one type of opponent you wouldn't want to use it on. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4473	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:30:00 - [7] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Why would you use a flaylock against a heavy in 1.8? Why would you use a flaylock at all? Beat me to it! My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 906	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:31:00 - [8] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Why would you use a flaylock against a heavy in 1.8? Why would you use a flaylock at all? I do, to fair effect, but it is laughable having to use an entire magazine of a proto weapon to kill a starter fit "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 467	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:36:00 - [9] - Quote Now do this same thing for how long it will take all the other sidearms to kill the same target. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 51	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:36:00 - [10] - Quote i use the flaylock and i use it well and im only level 3 no prof, its a A O D weapon in the right situation and an excellent finisher i love when fatties turn the corner and BOOM f*ck your logi picking your burnt a$$ up lol. and as for direct contact well they better be sitting still or you better have a great shot. (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ throws remote explosive and runs to the flank, the RE" was just a decoy

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7836	Posted - 2014.03.04 00:37:00 - [11] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: amarr sentinel-300x1.25 shields=375 shields 600x 1.25+3(135x1.1)=1196 armor 25% resistance to splash damage (375x1.2x1.25)=563 damage required to overcome shields (1196x.8x1.25)=1196 damage required to overcome armor 563+1196=1759 damage required from flay lock to kill amarr sentinel damage per clip of flaylock=1643=492 damage per clip 1759/492=3.6 clips, or 11 rounds to kill an amarr sentinel THE ARMOR TANKED SENTINEL WEAK TO EXPLOSIVES at 3 seconds per reload, this is 9 seconds+11delay between shots seconds to kill a heavy with a flay lock, assuming every round hits We make our suits strong young one. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines 473	Posted - 2014.03.04 01:29:00 - [12] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: amarr sentinel-300x1.25 shields=375 shields 600x 1.25+3(135x1.1)=1196 armor 25% resistance to splash damage (375x1.2x1.25)=563 damage required to overcome shields (1196x.8x1.25)=1196 damage required to overcome armor 563+1196=1759 damage required from flay lock to kill amarr sentinel damage per clip of flaylock=1643=492 damage per clip 1759/492=3.6 clips, or 11 rounds to kill an amarr sentinel THE ARMOR TANKED SENTINEL WEAK TO EXPLOSIVES at 3 seconds per reload, this is 9 seconds+11delay between shots seconds to kill a heavy with a flay lock, assuming every round hits You've taken an Amarr Sentinel with triple Complex Armor Plate. Not sure everyone will fit a 3x Complex plate. Maybe some Biotics will be fitted on it. With Level 5 of Armor AND shields. ADV (But not with 3x complex plate) PRO suit (certianely PRO). And compaired it with a STD secondary weapon with no damager and no Proficiency. OF course it will take a long time to kill !!!!!! I mean....come on if you want to compair Flaylocks with these ehp values and tier value (Complex plates AND PRO suit) You must take the PRO Flaylock with some damager AND some proficiency. THEN it will be a real comparaison. Oh and....All Sentinel suits are MEANT to be explosive resistant. Trying to kill an Heavy with an explosive weapon in 1.8 is like trynig to kill an assault with swars launcher....... Amarr sentinel is NOT the Explosive weak sentinel.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2489	Posted - 2014.03.04 01:39:00 - [13] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: amarr sentinel-300x1.25 shields=375 shields 600x 1.25+3(135x1.1)=1196 armor 25% resistance to splash damage (375x1.2x1.25)=563 damage required to overcome shields (1196x.8x1.25)=1196 damage required to overcome armor 563+1196=1759 damage required from flay lock to kill amarr sentinel damage per clip of flaylock=1643=492 damage per clip 1759/492=3.6 clips, or 11 rounds to kill an amarr sentinel THE ARMOR TANKED SENTINEL WEAK TO EXPLOSIVES at 3 seconds per reload, this is 9 seconds+11delay between shots seconds to kill a heavy with a flay lock, assuming every round hits You've taken an Amarr Sentinel with triple Complex Armor Plate. Not sure everyone will fit a 3x Complex plate. Maybe some Biotics will be fitted on it. With Level 5 of Armor AND shields. ADV (But not with 3x complex plate) PRO suit (certianely PRO). And compaired it with a STD secondary weapon with no damager and no Proficiency. OF course it will take a long time to kill !!!!!! I mean....come on if you want to compair Flaylocks with these ehp values and tier value (Complex plates AND PRO suit) You must take the PRO Flaylock with some damager AND some proficiency. THEN it will be a real comparaison. Oh and....All Sentinel suits are MEANT to be explosive resistant. Trying to kill an Heavy with an explosive weapon in 1.8 is like trynig to kill an assault with swars launcher....... Amarr sentinel is NOT the Explosive weak sentinel. this. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1931	Posted - 2014.03.04 01:40:00 - [14] - Quote Why call it a gaylock that's a bit offensive. For the Federation!
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 267	Posted - 2014.03.04 01:41:00 - [15] - Quote It's a sidearm. Sidearms should not be able to kill a heavy by itself. Sidearms are backup weapons for your light weapon. Use that first. Problem solved. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 910	Posted - 2014.03.04 01:59:00 - [16] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: It's a sidearm. Sidearms should not be able to kill a heavy by itself. Sidearms are backup weapons for your light weapon. Use that first. Problem solved. Lol, Ive seen heavies melt under scrambler pistol fire. and my NK's are sidearms and even without full proficiency almost all heavies are OHK with proto "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1884	Posted - 2014.03.04 02:31:00 - [17] - Quote Err, did this thread realize it was testing how effective a SIDEARM is on a Heavy? A Scrambler wouldn't kill a heavy in one clip. Why would the Flaylock? Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1884	Posted - 2014.03.04 02:33:00 - [18] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: It's a sidearm. Sidearms should not be able to kill a heavy by itself. Sidearms are backup weapons for your light weapon. Use that first. Problem solved. Lol, Ive seen heavies melt under scrambler pistol fire. and my NK's are sidearms and even without full proficiency almost all heavies are OHK with proto Scrambler- All Headshots? NK- Your kidding, right? Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1787	Posted - 2014.03.04 02:53:00 - [19] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Now factor in projectile speed causing about 1 of 3 shots to miss entirely, and the amarr heavy is unkillable with a flay lock pistol What I'm trying to say is- BUFF THE FLAYLOCK! I would say, pre nerf 1.8 heavies >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1053	Posted - 2014.03.04 02:59:00 - [20] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Now do this same thing for how long it will take all the other sidearms to kill the same target. All of them Give me one. Im thinking magsec, since it will be OP in 1.8 Brb with the info Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1060	Posted - 2014.03.04 03:08:00 - [21] - Quote Magsec SMG damage per shot-35 shots/clip-54 total damage/clip-3554=1890 damage versus 375 shield (3751.11.1)=454 EHP versus 1196 armor (1196.9)=1076 EHP 1076+454=1530 damage required to down Amarr sentinel 1530/35=44 bullets TTK=.3+44*.09=4.26 seconds of continuous fire from the magsec to down an amarr sentinel, with a long range hitscan weapon and 0 skills invested. This is about 1/3-1/4 the time it requires to kill the same suit with a flay lock. Plus, this weapon leaves ammo in the clip for more enemies to deal with, and has >3 clips remaining afterwards Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Tectonic Fusion 1171	Posted - 2014.03.04 03:33:00 - [22] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: It's a sidearm. Sidearms should not be able to kill a heavy by itself. Sidearms are backup weapons for your light weapon. Use that first. Problem solved. Lol, Ive seen heavies melt under scrambler pistol fire. and my NK's are sidearms and even without full proficiency almost all heavies are OHK with proto Scrambler- All Headshots? NK- Your kidding, right? A headslice kills people really fast. Also it's not that hard to kill a heavy with NKs if they aren't looking at you... P.S. it takes like 4 headshots to kill a heavy with a Scrambler Pistol. It's not that hard. Solo Player Squad status: Locked


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