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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:18:00 -
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Aren't there ever going to be MLT items of Non- Old School weapons? How about the Combat Rifle, for Instance? Or a mass driver? What about the Scrambler Rifle?
I just feel the Militia items only give you a limited look into the arsenal of DUST 514. Offer really poopy MLT weapons, but keep your AUR weapon trial packs at same strength. I'd just like to have a more variable choice in MLT I guess :/
I understand 12k is a small amount of SP, but lets take the HMG for example. there's a mlt forge gun on the market, and it takes longer to get the STD version of that than it does the HMG. So why isn't there a MLT HMG with 300 Rounds and a couple tenths lower Dmg per round?
Doesn't anybody else feel the same way?
Not sure if anybody else has pointed this out before, But it is an elephant in the room for new players/People who don't want to waste their precious SP like I did :(
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.28 04:34:00 -
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There really should be militia variants of all items, but then CCP couldn't make money off of their precious Neo AUR weapons bullshite. It sucks, since there'll never be a militia HMG or Large Missile turret.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.28 05:24:00 -
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Eventually, they just aren't priority.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.28 05:34:00 -
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SoonGäó
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.28 05:38:00 -
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I've said this somewhere else:
- Open and copy STD ISK module database
- Decrease ISK cost by 70%
- Increase fitting costs by 15% and/or reduce effectiveness by10%
- Remove skill requirements
- Done
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:30:00 -
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Or play 12 games and score over 1k war points. Then just skill in by one level.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:38:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:Or play 12 games and score over 1k war points. Then just skill in by one level.
You must hate OCD people. That would make for HIDEOUS character sheets. Also, 12 games is somewhat time-consuming cost-wise to try out a weapon. If you don't like the weapon... you just wasted a big chunk of your time and gave yourself an ugly character sheet. With a MLT weapon, you could try it out for the cost of a single match's ISK.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:19:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote:There really should be militia variants of all items, but then CCP couldn't make money off of their precious Neo AUR weapons bullshite. It sucks, since there'll never be a militia HMG or Large Missile turret.
I actually don't see that much of a problem here:
http://i.imgur.com/XaWcHT0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wvrGbkv.jpg
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:57:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Delanus Turgias wrote:There really should be militia variants of all items, but then CCP couldn't make money off of their precious Neo AUR weapons bullshite. It sucks, since there'll never be a militia HMG or Large Missile turret. I actually don't see that much of a problem here: http://i.imgur.com/XaWcHT0.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/wvrGbkv.jpg Factionals are actually pretty poopy right now. Rewards system is pretty bad. And they're probably gonna change Factional system around. I like the Loyalty Store, But what about people who really don't want to run say an Amarr FW and get destroyed but want to try out the Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle?
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.28 14:59:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Delanus Turgias wrote:There really should be militia variants of all items, but then CCP couldn't make money off of their precious Neo AUR weapons bullshite. It sucks, since there'll never be a militia HMG or Large Missile turret. I actually don't see that much of a problem here: http://i.imgur.com/XaWcHT0.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/wvrGbkv.jpg Factionals are actually pretty poopy right now. Rewards system is pretty bad. And they're probably gonna change Factional system around. I like the Loyalty Store, But what about people who really don't want to run say an Amarr FW and get destroyed but want to try out the Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle?
Run 1 match, try it out, be done with it?
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:04:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Delanus Turgias wrote:There really should be militia variants of all items, but then CCP couldn't make money off of their precious Neo AUR weapons bullshite. It sucks, since there'll never be a militia HMG or Large Missile turret. I actually don't see that much of a problem here: http://i.imgur.com/XaWcHT0.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/wvrGbkv.jpg Factionals are actually pretty poopy right now. Rewards system is pretty bad. And they're probably gonna change Factional system around. I like the Loyalty Store, But what about people who really don't want to run say an Amarr FW and get destroyed but want to try out the Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle? Run 1 match, try it out, be done with it? *facepalm* I'm just saying .. If Theres a MLT version of the FG, there should be a MLT version of more items than at present. Idk about how you feel, but running FW is a real chore. You can say hey run a Sqd and win, but a lot of the time, there's no squad that really wants to run FW, and recruiting into your squad is a chore. Nuff said.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:23:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Delanus Turgias wrote:There really should be militia variants of all items, but then CCP couldn't make money off of their precious Neo AUR weapons bullshite. It sucks, since there'll never be a militia HMG or Large Missile turret. I actually don't see that much of a problem here: http://i.imgur.com/XaWcHT0.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/wvrGbkv.jpg Factionals are actually pretty poopy right now. Rewards system is pretty bad. And they're probably gonna change Factional system around. I like the Loyalty Store, But what about people who really don't want to run say an Amarr FW and get destroyed but want to try out the Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle? Run 1 match, try it out, be done with it? *facepalm* I'm just saying .. If Theres a MLT version of the FG, there should be a MLT version of more items than at present. Idk about how you feel, but running FW is a real chore. You can say hey run a Sqd and win, but a lot of the time, there's no squad that really wants to run FW, and recruiting into your squad is a chore. Nuff said.
If you just ant to try out an item playing FW is no big deal. Even when you lose you get enough LP to try the item you want out in one match.
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:26:00 -
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(-(-_(-_-)_-)-)
People don't understand my logic.
Done with You Aikuchi :D
There's a MLT FG, so there should be a MLT HMG. There's already MLT AR, So there should be other MLT Rifles, in order to incorporate into each race's starter suits. To me, It makes the most sense :D
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:32:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:(-(-_(-_-)_-)-)
People don't understand my logic.
Done with You Aikuchi :D
There's a MLT FG, so there should be a MLT HMG. There's already MLT AR, So there should be other MLT Rifles, in order to incorporate into each race's starter suits. To me, It makes the most sense :D
For what it's worth, I agree with you, and there's lots of other people that want to see properly kitted racially-appropriate starter fits too.
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The-Errorist
522
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:33:00 -
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I agree that there should be militia versions of all items. |
X7 lion
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
129
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:03:00 -
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its a balance issue, the game is hard enough to balance with out adding more weapons to balance, there really needs to be a gun range attached to the merc quarters and you can either try all weapons for free or pay like 100 isk to try the basic version in the range.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2014.03.03 00:24:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:Aren't there ever going to be MLT items of Non- Old School weapons? How about the Combat Rifle, for Instance? Or a mass driver? I didn't want to add anything, but just point out that the Mass Driver is an 'old school' weapon. So is the Laser Rifle.
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2014.03.03 00:31:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Soldier Sorajord wrote:Aren't there ever going to be MLT items of Non- Old School weapons? How about the Combat Rifle, for Instance? Or a mass driver? I didn't want to add anything, but just point out that the Mass Driver is an 'old school' weapon. So is the Laser Rifle. Yeah, they were both in the closed beta. |
Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:52:00 -
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same reason why not every type of turret/bay has a civ variant in EVE
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:28:00 -
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there at least needs to be mlt versions of each on the racial rifles. that way the starter frontline and medc fits are as follows for each race:
Gallente: assault rifle Minmatar: combat rfile Caldari: rail rifle Amarr: Scrambler rifle
then each race should get their own racial sidearm for all starter fits:
Gallente: ion pistol Minmatar: Submachine gun Caldari: Bolt pistol or magsec Submachine gun (preferably the magsec smg) Amarr: scrambler pistol
then we will get the newcomers more used to various different weapons thanks to variety from the very start.
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Gallente Federation Patriot
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.03 05:04:00 -
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General12912 wrote:there at least needs to be mlt versions of each on the racial rifles. that way the starter frontline and medc fits are as follows for each race:
Gallente: assault rifle Minmatar: combat rfile Caldari: rail rifle Amarr: Scrambler rifle
then each race should get their own racial sidearm for all starter fits:
Gallente: ion pistol Minmatar: Submachine gun Caldari: Bolt pistol or magsec Submachine gun (preferably the magsec smg) Amarr: scrambler pistol
then we will get the newcomers more used to various different weapons thanks to variety from the very start. Exactly, Then they could look into each race and see which one is best suited for them.
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2014.03.04 05:52:00 -
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General12912 wrote:there at least needs to be mlt versions of each on the racial rifles. that way the starter frontline and medc fits are as follows for each race:
Gallente: assault rifle Minmatar: combat rfile Caldari: rail rifle Amarr: Scrambler rifle
then each race should get their own racial sidearm for all starter fits:
Gallente: ion pistol Minmatar: Submachine gun Caldari: Bolt pistol or magsec Submachine gun (preferably the magsec smg) Amarr: scrambler pistol
then we will get the newcomers more used to various different weapons thanks to variety from the very start. I agree. |
Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
798
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Posted - 2014.03.04 08:08:00 -
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Eve only has a few Civilian (known as militia in dust) modules, I don't believe there is a need to make more militia gear than what we have now. It is meant to be a starting place not something you buy because you are too cheap to skill one level into it for the basic.
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.04 12:41:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Eve only has a few Civilian (known as militia in dust) modules, I don't believe there is a need to make more militia gear than what we have now. It is meant to be a starting place not something you buy because you are too cheap to skill one level into it for the basic. Why not the rifles though. It seems logical to have a basic rifle of each kind at the very least. Rifles are simple weapons.
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