DUST Search - CCP why cqc and long range guns have same DPS?

Mejt0 wrote:

Alternate Insano wrote:

Mejt0 wrote:

Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this.

The .308 SCAR has more dps and range than a 7.62 AK47 and is also a better gun in cqc.
The rail rifle is the SCAR in New Eden. You are essentially complaing that weapons in game are doing what anyone familiar with military weapons should expect them to do.
Go read about weapons. American Rifleman would be a good place to start. Become familiar with RL ballistics charts. Then Google why armies the world over are making the switch. Also, you are making a serious tactical error not putting at least one point into the RR, if only to counter other RR users.
Or use the starter sniper fit and shoot them beyond their range. Or use the MD, ScR, or PlC.
At any rate, do something differently. No es complicado. Este esta la verdad.

1. Were not talking about real life guns.
2. To guy before you : Where do i write im bad im cqc? I beat them.

So if thats all good for you, then youre probably just using it. (Im not one of those like most, fotm from start to another one)

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Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 90	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:29:00 - [1] - Quote Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1715	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:38:00 - [2] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. Every game has long range rifles which can be used in cqc very easily. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 90	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:43:00 - [3] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. Every game has long range rifles which can be used in cqc very easily. But they shouldnt out dps cqc guns. If so then whats the point to use them.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1867	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:47:00 - [4] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. This is because ccp doesn't know how to make an fps.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1718	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:59:00 - [5] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. Every game has long range rifles which can be used in cqc very easily. But they shouldnt out dps cqc guns. If so then whats the point to use them. You shouldn't lose to a rr in cqc..if you do then either you're bad or the rr user knows how to use long range weapons in cqc..now can a protostomper kill a mlt suit even tho he's a terrible player? Yes cuz he'll only have to land a couple of shots. Also TTK is too fast in this game to make a difference, if it took longer for all weapons to kill someone then the rr wouldn't be viable in cqc. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Alternate Insano SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD 193	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:01:00 - [6] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. The .308 SCAR has more dps and range than a 7.62 AK47 and is also a better gun in cqc. The rail rifle is the SCAR in New Eden. You are essentially complaing that weapons in game are doing what anyone familiar with military weapons should expect them to do. Go read about weapons. American Rifleman would be a good place to start. Become familiar with RL ballistics charts. Then Google why armies the world over are making the switch. Also, you are making a serious tactical error not putting at least one point into the RR, if only to counter other RR users. Or use the starter sniper fit and shoot them beyond their range. Or use the MD, ScR, or PlC. At any rate, do something differently. No es complicado. Este esta la verdad. DUST 514 Super Scrub Level 262 Forum Troll Play, or play not. There is no balance.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 90	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:21:00 - [7] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. The .308 SCAR has more dps and range than a 7.62 AK47 and is also a better gun in cqc. The rail rifle is the SCAR in New Eden. You are essentially complaing that weapons in game are doing what anyone familiar with military weapons should expect them to do. Go read about weapons. American Rifleman would be a good place to start. Become familiar with RL ballistics charts. Then Google why armies the world over are making the switch. Also, you are making a serious tactical error not putting at least one point into the RR, if only to counter other RR users. Or use the starter sniper fit and shoot them beyond their range. Or use the MD, ScR, or PlC. At any rate, do something differently. No es complicado. Este esta la verdad. 1. Were not talking about real life guns. 2. To guy before you : Where do i write im bad im cqc? I beat them. So if thats all good for you, then youre probably just using it. (Im not one of those like most, fotm from start to another one)
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1719	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:26:00 - [8] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Alternate Insano wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. The .308 SCAR has more dps and range than a 7.62 AK47 and is also a better gun in cqc. The rail rifle is the SCAR in New Eden. You are essentially complaing that weapons in game are doing what anyone familiar with military weapons should expect them to do. Go read about weapons. American Rifleman would be a good place to start. Become familiar with RL ballistics charts. Then Google why armies the world over are making the switch. Also, you are making a serious tactical error not putting at least one point into the RR, if only to counter other RR users. Or use the starter sniper fit and shoot them beyond their range. Or use the MD, ScR, or PlC. At any rate, do something differently. No es complicado. Este esta la verdad. 1. Were not talking about real life guns. 2. To guy before you : Where do i write im bad im cqc? I beat them. So if thats all good for you, then youre probably just using it. (Im not one of those like most, fotm from start to another one) I have all rifles pro 5 I use what's needed I did not mean you were bad I ment in general. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1031	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:31:00 - [9] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I have all rifles pro 5 I use what's needed I did not mean you were bad I ment in general. Let me correct that for you: "I use whatever is the most OP this patch." If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2084	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote This really how it should be 10m 30m 50m 70m 300 250 120 80 AR 250 250 170 120 CR 200 200 200 150 ScR 180 180 180 180 RR These are example values to illustrate my point, but this effectively how each Rifle should see its its damage profile. Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.

Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1719	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:54:00 - [11] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I have all rifles pro 5 I use what's needed I did not mean you were bad I ment in general. Let me correct that for you: "I use whatever is the most OP this patch." Lmao let me know when you get good. I use what I want, and I run std. Got a problem with that? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2567	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:00:00 - [12] - Quote Problem is map design and all guns having accurate hip fire abilities Have fewer wide open areas and adjust the hell out of all the guns hip fire so you have to use the sights to hit something with any accuracy and suddenly this problem becomes much much smaller I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
negative49er Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 520	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:17:00 - [13] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Whos idea was that? Short range (ar) shouldnt have same/less dmg that long range (rr). More range should mean less DPS, or harder cqc... we dont have any of this. This is because ccp doesn't know how to make an fps. or they are not used to a fps game this is their first Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 989	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:22:00 - [14] - Quote and the shotgun is outdpsed by an assault rail rifle, and woefully outdpsd by the CR and ScR, which have more range, ScR has more alpha, spray and pray ability, and require less precision in CQC Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!


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