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Sigourney Reever wrote:

BLACK MASK D wrote:

http://youtu.be/ED-YF-v7WCw
http://youtu.be/nmgb8ERT__c
and when is commander mode and pve coming in?

BUMP.

For an official response by DUST EP. Not the Community Team, your job is hard enough, obviously, and the answer to how to repair these problems is clearly above your paygrade.

It's been 4-5 months since the New EP has come on board and that's more than enough time to get one's head around a big, jacked up mess of a project, come up with a plan and begin repair.

Many of the gameplay aspects of the 2009 demo are unrelated to 'technical issues', we've seen these gameplay elements, or a variation of them, in the game already. Their absence is sorely missed.

1) Skirmish 1.0 (MCC Docking with installation, progressing through map areas, etc)
2) Alternative Installations (sensor booster installations?!, remember small turret installations from Public Beta?)
3) "vehicle deployment based on warpoints" (this would solve so many problems with "Tank514 v1.7")
4) Extensive Interior Spaces. (more maps anyone?)

It seems to me that these items fall into the category of 'should be in the game already' ie: come on, get it together, dust off the code and get it back in the game.

Other elements of the demo are more easily described as content clearly expected by the community but completely absent thus far from any playable versions:

1) "We have 10 vehicle classes, 8 of them are planned for launch" REALLY? really!?! (this has been "Oh Really?!? with Sigourney Reever")
2) Weapon Subsystems (Assault Rifle with MD slung below, multiple scope types, etc)
3) Highly detailed WarBarge areas. (as seen in part 2 of the 2009 demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxYk-ZdvCQ)

Maybe you overreached, simply explaining that would be helpful, but these elements were expected certainly by now by a large number of players. Some sort of Official Roadmap would allow folks to let them go by the wayside, but without a clear comment, I'll hold you to the quote below.

The demo ended with the quote from CCP CEO "This is no gimmick, this is the real thing."

So far, I'm only seeing loads of Gimmick, it's been 4 1/2 years since that demo.

Some sort of official response would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Sigourney Reever, Dust player since open Beta.
Eve player since 2009, name redacted.

Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP

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BLACK MASK D The Exemplars Top Men. 31	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:29:00 - [1] - Quote http://youtu.be/ED-YF-v7WCw http://youtu.be/nmgb8ERT__c and when is commander mode and pve coming in?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7029	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:30:00 - [2] - Quote I can't see the videos. YouTube is being a pain in the ass right now. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 341	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:31:00 - [3] - Quote 2018
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 392	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:34:00 - [4] - Quote I believe that was a PC version that they built After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 470	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:37:00 - [5] - Quote Maaaaan I want our MCCs to move. It's like we're playing entirely different games.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 91	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:38:00 - [6] - Quote RIP Skirmish 1.0 Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 6832	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:50:00 - [7] - Quote That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 157	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:58:00 - [8] - Quote Man... If I had a dollar for everytime someone linked that video on these forums... (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1964	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:58:00 - [9] - Quote 5 years and look how far we've regressed =)
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 821	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:00:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. i believe this to be accurate *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari

calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1965	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:01:00 - [11] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. i believe this to be accurate it's very accurate, an a bit disappointing since the ps4 can handle it fine lol.
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 330	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:15:00 - [12] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. i believe this to be accurate it's very accurate, an a bit disappointing since the ps4 can handle it fine lol. Please stop propagating that kind of baseless assumption. You have no idea how the Carbon Engine and the PS4 work together. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Cmdr Wolfe Carbon 7 CRONOS. 60	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:20:00 - [13] - Quote THAT DEMO IS A JOKE!!
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 393	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:20:00 - [14] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: calisk galern wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. i believe this to be accurate it's very accurate, an a bit disappointing since the ps4 can handle it fine lol. Please stop propagating that kind of baseless assumption. You have no idea how the Carbon Engine and the PS4 work together. So is it true or not? That vid was 5 years ago After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 331	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:24:00 - [15] - Quote da GAND wrote: Supernus Gigas wrote: calisk galern wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. i believe this to be accurate it's very accurate, an a bit disappointing since the ps4 can handle it fine lol. Please stop propagating that kind of baseless assumption. You have no idea how the Carbon Engine and the PS4 work together. So is it true or not? That vid was 5 years ago What? The PS4 didn't even exist in it's current form 5 years ago. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 393	Posted - 2014.02.26 20:21:00 - [16] - Quote @Supernus Gigas No I mean can the ps4 run the carbon engine? What would the hardware on the ps4 equal to? A gaming PC a few years ago or are consoles that behind? After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 256	Posted - 2014.02.26 20:44:00 - [17] - Quote da GAND wrote: @Supernus Gigas No I mean can the ps4 run the carbon engine? What would the hardware on the ps4 equal to? A gaming PC a few years ago or are consoles that behind? The reall question is not about what Ps3/Ps4 can handle, but if CCP can handle their optimization.Look on the games by Naugthty Dogs or Sucker Punch, hell what about DICEs mirrors edge or Evolution Studios Motorstorm and finaly GTA V by Rockstar. These games are pretty much older and they are already on another level. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10092	Posted - 2014.02.26 20:49:00 - [18] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. Such a damn shame. Such a damn shame... You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 6850	Posted - 2014.02.26 20:52:00 - [19] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: What? The PS4 didn't even exist in it's current form 5 years ago. PS4 is a glorified custom built PC. The Carbon engine is currently used in EVE for walking in station. It will work on any PC powerful enough, including the PS4. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Israckcatarac Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 31	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:04:00 - [20] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: da GAND wrote: @Supernus Gigas No I mean can the ps4 run the carbon engine? What would the hardware on the ps4 equal to? A gaming PC a few years ago or are consoles that behind? The reall question is not about what Ps3/Ps4 can handle, but if CCP can handle their optimization.Look on the games by Naugthty Dogs or Sucker Punch, hell what about DICEs mirrors edge or Evolution Studios Motorstorm and finaly GTA V by Rockstar. These games are pretty much older and they are already on another level. . Your comparing apples to Oranges.

Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 445	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:18:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. No, the carbon engine was never designed to run an FPS and could not render anything properly nor was it optimized for the PS3, CCP switched to Unreal because it was a pre-built engine designed for consoles that they could just reverse engineer for there own use. closed beta vet-E3 MAXIMUM ARMOR
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 257	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:30:00 - [22] - Quote Israckcatarac wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: da GAND wrote: @Supernus Gigas No I mean can the ps4 run the carbon engine? What would the hardware on the ps4 equal to? A gaming PC a few years ago or are consoles that behind? The reall question is not about what Ps3/Ps4 can handle, but if CCP can handle their optimization.Look on the games by Naugthty Dogs or Sucker Punch, hell what about DICEs mirrors edge or Evolution Studios Motorstorm and finaly GTA V by Rockstar. These games are pretty much older and they are already on another level. . Your comparing apples to Oranges. Just tell me why, do you thing the game genre making game engine itself different?! No, optimization of game is the CORE, you can have awesome built with great engine, but without proper optimization it will be just useless pile of unworthy coding. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 93	Posted - 2014.02.27 15:21:00 - [23] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Israckcatarac wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: da GAND wrote: @Supernus Gigas No I mean can the ps4 run the carbon engine? What would the hardware on the ps4 equal to? A gaming PC a few years ago or are consoles that behind? The reall question is not about what Ps3/Ps4 can handle, but if CCP can handle their optimization.Look on the games by Naugthty Dogs or Sucker Punch, hell what about DICEs mirrors edge or Evolution Studios Motorstorm and finaly GTA V by Rockstar. These games are pretty much older and they are already on another level. . Your comparing apples to Oranges. Just tell me why, do you thing the game genre making game engine itself different?! No, optimization of game is the CORE, you can have awesome built with great engine, but without proper optimization it will be just useless pile of unworthy coding. Think of how much experience dice and naughty dog have in optimizing console games. They are veterans in the console market, while ccp is a newcomer, with less resources than either of those other two studios. Think about it, going from creating EvE to making Dust is a huge transition, and these are just the normal bumps in the road. The only difference is that we are all along for the ride. And I would do it all again. It's been a great experience to see this game progress. PS - Dat closed beta hit detection... Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 218	Posted - 2014.02.27 15:29:00 - [24] - Quote Dust has come a long way! So much we want to have now and so little resources CCP have to deliver. I can't wait for trophies. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 386	Posted - 2014.02.27 15:36:00 - [25] - Quote Why doesn't the assault dropships have stabilizers? Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1832	Posted - 2014.02.27 15:38:00 - [26] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I can't see the videos. YouTube is being a pain in the ass right now. It just shows the ****** first gameplay demo. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Sigourney Reever Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 0	Posted - 2014.02.27 17:35:00 - [27] - Quote BLACK MASK D wrote: http://youtu.be/ED-YF-v7WCw http://youtu.be/nmgb8ERT__c and when is commander mode and pve coming in? BUMP. For an official response by DUST EP. Not the Community Team, your job is hard enough, obviously, and the answer to how to repair these problems is clearly above your paygrade. It's been 4-5 months since the New EP has come on board and that's more than enough time to get one's head around a big, jacked up mess of a project, come up with a plan and begin repair. Many of the gameplay aspects of the 2009 demo are unrelated to 'technical issues', we've seen these gameplay elements, or a variation of them, in the game already. Their absence is sorely missed. 1) Skirmish 1.0 (MCC Docking with installation, progressing through map areas, etc) 2) Alternative Installations (sensor booster installations?!, remember small turret installations from Public Beta?) 3) "vehicle deployment based on warpoints" (this would solve so many problems with "Tank514 v1.7") 4) Extensive Interior Spaces. (more maps anyone?) It seems to me that these items fall into the category of 'should be in the game already' ie: come on, get it together, dust off the code and get it back in the game. Other elements of the demo are more easily described as content clearly expected by the community but completely absent thus far from any playable versions: 1) "We have 10 vehicle classes, 8 of them are planned for launch" REALLY? really!?! (this has been "Oh Really?!? with Sigourney Reever") 2) Weapon Subsystems (Assault Rifle with MD slung below, multiple scope types, etc) 3) Highly detailed WarBarge areas. (as seen in part 2 of the 2009 demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxYk-ZdvCQ) Maybe you overreached, simply explaining that would be helpful, but these elements were expected certainly by now by a large number of players. Some sort of Official Roadmap would allow folks to let them go by the wayside, but without a clear comment, I'll hold you to the quote below. The demo ended with the quote from CCP CEO "This is no gimmick, this is the real thing." So far, I'm only seeing loads of Gimmick, it's been 4 1/2 years since that demo. Some sort of official response would be appreciated. Thanks, Sigourney Reever, Dust player since open Beta. Eve player since 2009, name redacted.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1707	Posted - 2014.02.27 17:48:00 - [28] - Quote That was the 2009 PC build, think that was the one on carbon? Which couldn't be ported to ps3 Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 90	Posted - 2014.02.27 18:43:00 - [29] - Quote BLACK MASK D wrote: http://youtu.be/ED-YF-v7WCw http://youtu.be/nmgb8ERT__c and when is commander mode and pve coming in? i believe this is what the devs play and are actually working on.......the garbage we have now is to just keep us slightly amused this video is proof as to why we should keep waiting but its your decision to play the game the way it currently is..... you can wait and go play something else when dust evolves into something other than just amusing Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 67	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:40:00 - [30] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Man... If I had a dollar for everytime someone linked that video on these forums... No kidding :D MASTER OF THE FLAYLOCK

IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 92	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:47:00 - [31] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: 2018 as much as this is sarcasm this is probably correct..........i could see ps3 production closed at this point dust would movevto the system it was intended 4........ the ps4...... Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 92	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:49:00 - [32] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Maaaaan I want our MCCs to move. It's like we're playing entirely different games. its not like.... we are playing a different game...... they just slapped the same name on it and called it chicken Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 92	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:51:00 - [33] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: That was the 2009 PC build, think that was the one on carbon? Which couldn't be ported to ps3 in 2009 there wasnt ps4 try porting it now xd....becuase this is the only game ive ever seen nerf graphics Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3627	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:53:00 - [34] - Quote That actually looked more epic than current DUST. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 92	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:53:00 - [35] - Quote if ccp is only using unreal engine........ when does unreal realease unreal engine 4 Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 92	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:00:00 - [36] - Quote Sigourney Reever wrote: BLACK MASK D wrote: http://youtu.be/ED-YF-v7WCw http://youtu.be/nmgb8ERT__c and when is commander mode and pve coming in? BUMP. For an official response by DUST EP. Not the Community Team, your job is hard enough, obviously, and the answer to how to repair these problems is clearly above your paygrade. It's been 4-5 months since the New EP has come on board and that's more than enough time to get one's head around a big, jacked up mess of a project, come up with a plan and begin repair. Many of the gameplay aspects of the 2009 demo are unrelated to 'technical issues', we've seen these gameplay elements, or a variation of them, in the game already. Their absence is sorely missed. 1) Skirmish 1.0 (MCC Docking with installation, progressing through map areas, etc) 2) Alternative Installations (sensor booster installations?!, remember small turret installations from Public Beta?) 3) "vehicle deployment based on warpoints" (this would solve so many problems with "Tank514 v1.7") 4) Extensive Interior Spaces. (more maps anyone?) It seems to me that these items fall into the category of 'should be in the game already' ie: come on, get it together, dust off the code and get it back in the game. Other elements of the demo are more easily described as content clearly expected by the community but completely absent thus far from any playable versions: 1) "We have 10 vehicle classes, 8 of them are planned for launch" REALLY? really!?! (this has been "Oh Really?!? with Sigourney Reever") 2) Weapon Subsystems (Assault Rifle with MD slung below, multiple scope types, etc) 3) Highly detailed WarBarge areas. (as seen in part 2 of the 2009 demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxYk-ZdvCQ) Maybe you overreached, simply explaining that would be helpful, but these elements were expected certainly by now by a large number of players. Some sort of Official Roadmap would allow folks to let them go by the wayside, but without a clear comment, I'll hold you to the quote below. The demo ended with the quote from CCP CEO "This is no gimmick, this is the real thing." So far, I'm only seeing loads of Gimmick, it's been 4 1/2 years since that demo. Some sort of official response would be appreciated. Thanks, Sigourney Reever, Dust player since open Beta. Eve player since 2009, name redacted. this man is a genius why u only have 1 like u seem like a beta player +1 4 u lmfao ive only played 4 2 years......you have played 4???????? do you feel like it was time well spent...... or poorly wasted?????? Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 92	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:02:00 - [37] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Why doesn't the assault dropships have stabilizers? becuase stability is for militia scrubs Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 94	Posted - 2014.02.27 20:46:00 - [38] - Quote [quote=Aisha Ctarl]That actually looked more epic than current DUST exactly where did all the amusement go Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
DaLastProtoTypeWarHero IIIOMENS NECR0PHILIACS 3	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:52:00 - [39] - Quote becuase ccp doesnt have the resources to build its own engine on ps3 so it uses unreal engine a few ill fated mercs went deep into the heart of cronos territory to surive they became someone else... something else.
Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 215	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:12:00 - [40] - Quote i really like this one more than what we have now ahh... ehh... mmm...

Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 215	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:20:00 - [41] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Dust has come a long way! So much we want to have now and so little resources CCP have to deliver. I can't wait for trophies. thx for reminding ahh... ehh... mmm...
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 182	Posted - 2014.02.27 23:27:00 - [42] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: da GAND wrote: @Supernus Gigas No I mean can the ps4 run the carbon engine? What would the hardware on the ps4 equal to? A gaming PC a few years ago or are consoles that behind? The reall question is not about what Ps3/Ps4 can handle, but if CCP can handle their optimization.Look on the games by Naugthty Dogs or Sucker Punch, hell what about DICEs mirrors edge or Evolution Studios Motorstorm and finaly GTA V by Rockstar. These games are pretty much older and they are already on another level. Lol at optimizing for new consoles. They don't need to optimize, the PS4 would have absolutely no problem running the gameplay we just saw. Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
Sigourney Reever Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:09:00 - [43] - Quote BUMP. Because if one ignores history, one is doomed to repeat it.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 294	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:42:00 - [44] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Man... If I had a dollar for everytime someone linked that video on these forums... You'd have enough money to buy out Ccp port dust to the ps4 on carbon and make the game we all envision.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 99	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:36:00 - [45] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Man... If I had a dollar for everytime someone linked that video on these forums... You'd have enough money to buy out Ccp port dust to the ps4 on carbon and make the game we all envision. O_o Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 174	Posted - 2014.03.01 13:40:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Rouge is actually False Prophet Flareon. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 605	Posted - 2014.03.01 14:48:00 - [47] - Quote http://youtu.be/ED-YF-v7WCw?t=56s the best part ! o im sorry dev i cant here you over my TANK !! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 476	Posted - 2014.03.01 15:25:00 - [48] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Maximus Stryker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: That was the version built in the Carbon engine. It was too much to handle for the PS3 so they scrapped it and moved to the UE3 engine, starting over. i believe this to be accurate it's very accurate, an a bit disappointing since the ps4 can handle it fine lol. HEY i noticed you have 2014 likes... let me fix that for ya "We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste


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