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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:43:00 -
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Rocket Launcher?
Seriously. It would make a lot of sense if the Minmatar's AV weapon is a rocket launcher in the same vein as the RPG. Having it cheap, low cost CPU/PG, one shot per "clip," fast reload, and large splash damage per rocket would make it ideal for people who don't want to spec too far into AV. Light yet effective but it should take mastering to get it to be your specific vehicle killer.
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:47:00 -
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That would be better than the Plasma cannon which is also single shot AV weapon :/
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:47:00 -
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But isn't that the Plasma Launcher?
I think that the Minmatar AV weapon could be a big recoilless rifle with a scope.
A Baby FG essentially.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:47:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:That would be better than the Plasma cannon which is also single shot AV weapon :/ Exept for armor...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:50:00 -
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There are a wide variety of potential minmatar solutions
A dumbfire rocket launcher that is akin to an RPG 25 A manportable buffors cannon An anti-material rifle A manportable recoilless rifle.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:53:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:But isn't that the Plasma Launcher?
I think that the Minmatar AV weapon could be a big recoilless rifle with a scope.
A Baby FG essentially.
Plasma Cannon =/= Minmatar RPG.
Plasma Cannon:
Shoots in an arc Shoots plasma Is only suitable for ground locked vehicles Is weak against armor Has a slow reload
Minmatar RPG(my vision):
Shoots somewhat straight, like a rocket Shoots explosive rounds Is versatile enough for both air and ground vehicles Is weak against shields Has a fast reload
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I would go on to say that the RPG should be weaker than the Plasma Cannon because of the PLC's flexibility and rapid action flaws but right now, the PLC is pretty weak in damage anyway. Once it gets buff, I can say "Make the RPG weaker."
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REMNANCY 1
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:53:00 -
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I was thinking either a one shot powerhouse heavy anti-tank rifle though if handled poorly it could be very OP against infantry.In real life also AT or AM rifles are **** poor against armored vehicles and for light AV maybe a wire-guided missile like a TOW for instance |
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:59:00 -
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Seriously it NEEDS to be something similar to an RPG that CAN be used to splash damage infantry!
Rocket launchers yeaaaa!
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:05:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:But isn't that the Plasma Launcher?
I think that the Minmatar AV weapon could be a big recoilless rifle with a scope.
A Baby FG essentially. Plasma Cannon =/= Minmatar RPG. Plasma Cannon: Shoots in an arc Shoots plasma Is only suitable for ground locked vehicles Is weak against armor Has a slow reload Minmatar RPG(my vision): Shoots somewhat straight, like a rocket Shoots explosive rounds Is versatile enough for both air and ground vehicles Is weak against shields Has a fast reload --- I would go on to say that the RPG should be weaker than the Plasma Cannon because of the PLC's flexibility and rapid action flaws but right now, the PLC is pretty weak in damage anyway. Once it gets buff, I can say "Make the RPG weaker." Perhaps.
I just think having every AV weapon be a launcher of some sort of rocket will get boring after a while. Sniper AV seems rather neat, considering the only AV for Long range is useable only by a heavy, it'd add a bit of variety.
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:19:00 -
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I'd like to see something (relatively) rapid fire, say 2 to 3 shots per second with 200 meters + range that at proto level would DPS out similar to the forge guns. Since currently there is no infantry AV weapon capable of keeping up pressure over time on a vehicle. That kind of beating would not kill a lot of tanks fast, but WOULD cancel out their regens and allow all other AV to become more effective. Also a high (for AV) fire rate would fit in with the Minmatar SMG, CR and HMG.
It would have to have some major drawback to keep it from also becoming the infantry killer of choice though. Relatively wide scatter maybe? Wide scatter plus low fire rate (for an anti infantry weapon) might be sufficient.
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Nazz'Dragg
planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:09:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are a wide variety of potential minmatar solutions
A dumbfire rocket launcher that is akin to an RPG 25
How about a heavy weapon that was the cross between a grenade launcher and Remote/Proximity Explosives. This weapon would be similar to a grenade lunch expect Instead of immediately exploding on contact, these grenades would sit around in till either they are trigged or there internal timer expires.
This would in my mind add something that is lacking with AV weapons which is area denial. By firing proximity mines in front a vehicles while safely behind cover would give HAV dives in particular pause for thought and perhaps force them to retreat.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are a wide variety of potential minmatar solutions
A dumbfire rocket launcher that is akin to an RPG 25 A manportable buffors cannon An anti-material rifle A manportable recoilless rifle.
I think the rifle will be the only option that avoids being OP vs infantry. But a flak shotgun would be awesome.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:17:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Rocket Launcher?
snip Not "Killy" enough. They need the Fat Man from Fallout 3 complete with the same barebones aesthetic and mushroom cloud.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:17:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Rocket Launcher?
Seriously. It would make a lot of sense if the Minmatar's AV weapon is a rocket launcher in the same vein as the RPG. Having it cheap, low cost CPU/PG, one shot per "clip," fast reload, and large splash damage per rocket would make it ideal for people who don't want to spec too far into AV. Light yet effective but it should take mastering to get it to be your specific vehicle killer.
I want to see people rapid firing it off the shoulder skill shotting players in 1v1.....would be an amazing AV set up......
wonder what the Amarr light AV could be? MELTAGUN?!
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:20:00 -
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Totally agree with the OP except for it to be more AV and less of an all around killer I would say it will need less splash damage more direct damage. At least if they make the projectile travel fast enough.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:25:00 -
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I had a feedback post about this.
My Minmatar ideas were:
Anti-materiel Rifle
APFSDS (armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding-sabot) Launcher..
The idea being that both are projectile weapons, since "Explosive" and "Hybrid" types are filled by our other two light AV weapons. An APFSDS is more properly a kinetic projectile that doesn't "explode", so it could have the projectile damage type.
I also thought it would be amusing if you fired the APFSDS from a crossbow... because Minmatar. Or it were fired from a two stage-rocket, or a wire-guided rocket - with a final stage to "launch" the kinetic projectile.
Wire-guided, stages, and other measures are suggested to balance the light AV and keep them from being practical anti-personnel weapons.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:47:00 -
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Nope, rockets and missiles are Cal. Min do use them but as a racial design with limited variety the first choice would be an artillery cannon type projectile. It could work like an APG. Fire like the PC but actually damage qn HAV at close range and one shot an LAV.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.27 00:50:00 -
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I'd take a flak cannon over anything. rocket launchers are not needed (would just become a OP PLC).
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:06:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Rocket Launcher?
Seriously. It would make a lot of sense if the Minmatar's AV weapon is a rocket launcher in the same vein as the RPG. Having it cheap, low cost CPU/PG, one shot per "clip," fast reload, and large splash damage per rocket would make it ideal for people who don't want to spec too far into AV. Light yet effective but it should take mastering to get it to be your specific vehicle killer.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.02.27 01:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There are a wide variety of potential minmatar solutions
A dumbfire rocket launcher that is akin to an RPG 25 A manportable buffors cannon An anti-material rifle A manportable recoilless rifle.
Do you think RPG 26 Aglen or RPG 22 (i never saw/heard about RPG 25 in whole my army carer)?! Just question And about AA infantry weapon, i see that like big version of Flaylock, something like rocket propeled grenade, maybe with feeder tray on top (gravity/sloap loaded) after each shot with five propeled grenades. What about this?!
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:24:00 -
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i always thought that the minmartar av weapon would be an surface to surface missile somthin you would have to place then activate (hack)
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:42:00 -
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you are correct in the SDE theirs a weapon type called rocket launcher also damage type called rocket launcher That and the precision rifle are the only not releasing soon weapons for infantry in SDE
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WolfeXXVII
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:57:00 -
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Soldier Sorajord wrote:That would be better than the Plasma cannon which is also single shot AV weapon :/
the PLC next update will have 2 rounds in the assault variant.
plus i agree with you we cant have rocket launcer to powerful on shields though because it is a minmitar weapon.
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