they will just work like another passive mod for tanks.

also they would add a level of cost to the tanks i suspect.

i.e a 70k proto pilot suit would make your tank fit cost 70k more.

But how does that avoid the Three Scenarios?

You can say you shouldn't have to put points into dropships to be a good heavy, but you should have to put points into heavies to be a good HMGer.
Same applies with tanks.

I would like it if HAV or DS piloting (so any enclosed vehicle, as opposed to LAVs where the driver can be shot out, and is more of a personal transport anyway) required a pilot suit. I'd also like it if mods were added that would add small efficacy bonuses to your HAV (so say an item that gives 5% efficacy to shield hardeners (so 63% for a single mod rather than 60%). Something small, but potentially valuable.

I already have 3 different weapons to skill up in the form of my turrets. There are 7 skill sets in the game. Vehicle Upgrades, Command, and Turret Operation make up the 3 for vehicles while Dropsuit Command, Dropsuit Upgrades, and Weaponry makes up the Infantry set. Leaving out Corporation skills because they are not needed for this point.

In order to be a decent HMG user, you need the three infantry skills. In order to be a decent Dropship pilot, you need the three vehicle skills. If Pilot Suits were added, the Dropship pilot would need 4. That is where the analogy comes from.

pilot suit's make Vehicles a niche game style...


With the ISK sink of them and the inherent advantage of using one versus not... It takes competitive tanking away from the average DUST player and put's it in the hands of the elite and wealthy.

It's counter-productive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw <--- Check out the Gallente fighter at 5:40


We where supposed to have a Commander on the battlefield that then chose the vehicle limits... 2 Fighters 2 tanks 1 dropship 1 LAV...

You then as a Mercenary needed to go and earn your war points to call in Said vehicles based on the commanders limits he has on the battlefield...

So Vehicles was a reward base that could be called in.. Much like Titanfall and calling in Titans...


This was the original amazing balanced concepts of DUST 514 back in its original inception....


How far this game is off what it was is astonishing....

I'd be cool with that, however CCP would have to allow mlt vehicles to be piloted without a pilot suit.

Why do you have to skill into all 3 turrets?
And equipment, while its into the dropsuit upgrade, why are skilling armour on a shield or vice versa.?
You don't have to skill into pilot suits to be effective, but you do if you want to be more. Also don't forget you only have standard hulls, so you only need to skill to access those.

I was just breaking down the fact that there are three skills that govern vehicles and three skills that govern infantry, not necessarily saying "I need to skill into all three turrets."

In Scenario 1, that would mean being governed by four skills sets in order to make up a deficit. Scenario 2 has it that if they are just freebie bonuses, it is nothing more than a buff to vehicles that drop the SP. If you are avoiding Scenario 1 and 2, I see you running right into Scenario 3; a bonus small enough to not make it worth spending over two million SP. I want to avoid Scenario 2 (a flat buff) just as much as I want to avoid Scenario 1 (a nerf in the form of more SP invested.)

Pilot suits and vehicles become one

They help enhance the vehicle i hope, i wouldnt even mind if they required 1 to use any vehicle except for LAVs

I expect them to be useless outside a vehicle so you cant hop out with a fat suit and RR on it

I hope for more mods which can be put on the suit like explosive detectors or motion sensors or even things like 1/2/5% modifiers to PG/CPU/HP maybe

If they do stack with vehicles and so do any new mods i hope i could use the fitting screen and see what effects it would have on any vehicle so when i fit up a vehicle i could add in a pilot suit fitting and see how it alters the stats

Fair enough, the thing is, as a predominantly infantry player I see a large problem with heavies roling in tanks. It might just come down to picking the lesser evil and trying to balance it. But I understand you plight and hope you see my reasoning.

But that was a bad idea

Whats the point of having a vehicle skill tree tht you could be into yet you have to wait till you get x points to get it and cant even fit the thing up to your liking

Yes I want it to be another sink that only dedicated pilots skill into that modifies our modules.

This way unskilled FoTM chasers will still have the same direct efficiency as skilled SP counterparts but not the same utility.

Yes I want it to be another sink that only dedicated pilots skill into that modifies our modules.

This way unskilled FoTM chasers will still have the same direct efficiency as skilled SP counterparts but not the same utility.