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Sadariel Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:40:00 - [1] - Quote It is not because it is the flavor of the month. Or that you cannot be stopped unless it is by another tank or a rare few coordinated squads. No it is about becoming the focal point. Every moment I stay on the battlefield supporting my team is another minute the enemy spends either trying to destroy my tank or avoid it. Much like the mass driver it is an area denial weapon. Used in support of a squad is a powerful asset not the end all be all of combat. It can push enemies from objectives even without firing a shot. The other team must risk their tanks as well to kill mine. So I may lose tanks or my WP are not at the top of the board. But that's not why I tank. I play my tank almost like a logistics role. In support of the squad and the team.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1302	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:43:00 - [2] - Quote I like tanks. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Echoist Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 184	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:47:00 - [3] - Quote I didn't realize this was where we confess our sins to CCP and others... Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 8	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:53:00 - [4] - Quote Sadariel wrote: It is not because it is the flavor of the month. Or that you cannot be stopped unless it is by another tank or a rare few coordinated squads. No it is about becoming the focal point. Every moment I stay on the battlefield supporting my team is another minute the enemy spends either trying to destroy my tank or avoid it. Much like the mass driver it is an area denial weapon. Used in support of a squad is a powerful asset not the end all be all of combat. It can push enemies from objectives even without firing a shot. The other team must risk their tanks as well to kill mine. So I may lose tanks or my WP are not at the top of the board. But that's not why I tank. I play my tank almost like a logistics role. In support of the squad and the team. Its not tanks. Its the price of them, that is whats not right. So if your cheapest tank was to cost 500,000 ISK or more you would keep spawning them in death after death?
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 421	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:56:00 - [5] - Quote Depends on the match I'm in and what I'm doing. But if I lose 2 tanks I won't call in the third.
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 315	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:58:00 - [6] - Quote I run Tanks because I ***** love Tanks. I had around 15 Service Stars in MBTs in BF3 before I stopped playing. I had around 100 hours in MBTs alone. Tanks are the bee's knees. I have 8m SP invested into Tanks in Dust. I don't care if their OP, UP, too expensive or whatever. I will keep running them because I *** love tanks. FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!**
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution 781	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:28:00 - [7] - Quote Sadariel wrote: No it is about becoming the focal point. So you tank because it is OP? Whodafunkit.
Sadariel Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:32:00 - [8] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Sadariel wrote: No it is about becoming the focal point. So you tank because it is OP? Whodafunkit. We are looking at it from different angles then. The tank is a force multiplier. It forces the enemy to adapt in ways they may not have wanted. In concert with a squad the tank serves as that distraction. It allows for coordinated strikes on objectives. Forcing the enemy to chose whether to deploy their own armor and risk losing it, deploy AV and engage the rest of the squad or any number of factors that makes squad warfare that much better.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9904	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:33:00 - [9] - Quote So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Sadariel Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:44:00 - [10] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. Not the most important thing on the field as things can be countered. It become then much like chess. Where do you put the tank. Do they have a tank? A lot of AV? How far forward should I go? Should I stay back for long range support? There are many roles a tank can perform. Though it seems that this opinion is in the minority so I shall be quiet about it.

Asirius Medaius 859	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:50:00 - [11] - Quote I run tanks because I used to main as a heavy with proto forge, but once they took the axe to the range and charging time of the forgegun, I decided to just get level 5 railgun turrets and snipe everything from the redline, or charge into battle with a blaster turret. With the current price of tanks, it's so easy to make money, and if you need to get ammo or get more armor on the redline, just back up a little, recall your tank, and call in the same one, then continue to deny everyone on the other team their vehicles by using a proto turret with a damage mod and snipe everything an enemy RDV drops off. Thanks CCP! I love this game! Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 137	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:08:00 - [12] - Quote Sadariel wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. Not the most important thing on the field as things can be countered. It become then much like chess. Where do you put the tank. Do they have a tank? A lot of AV? How far forward should I go? Should I stay back for long range support? There are many roles a tank can perform. Though it seems that this opinion is in the minority so I shall be quiet about it. So say I don't want to tank? What then? Why do I have to go full proto on the ground in Anti armor, which cost over 100,000 isk, while crap tankers spend half and get more out of it. I wanna run ground squad. What about us? Trying to counter tanks is a nightmare. "Anybody order chaos?"
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1748	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:11:00 - [13] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: Sadariel wrote: It is not because it is the flavor of the month. Or that you cannot be stopped unless it is by another tank or a rare few coordinated squads. No it is about becoming the focal point. Every moment I stay on the battlefield supporting my team is another minute the enemy spends either trying to destroy my tank or avoid it. Much like the mass driver it is an area denial weapon. Used in support of a squad is a powerful asset not the end all be all of combat. It can push enemies from objectives even without firing a shot. The other team must risk their tanks as well to kill mine. So I may lose tanks or my WP are not at the top of the board. But that's not why I tank. I play my tank almost like a logistics role. In support of the squad and the team. Its not tanks. Its the price of them, that is whats not right. So if your cheapest tank was to cost 500,000 ISK or more you would keep spawning them in death after death? Price is fine. There's lots of broken **** about vehicles. this 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 657	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:17:00 - [14] - Quote I tank because I despise red tanks. After grinding my infantry for the week I hop on my tank alt and make red tanks pay for the sins of those I had to deal with on foot. CCP your matchmaking is better but still sucks a fair amount Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution 781	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:19:00 - [15] - Quote Sadariel wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: So you tank because it is OP? Whodafunkit. We are looking at it from different angles then. The tank is a force multiplier. It forces the enemy to adapt in ways they may not have wanted. In concert with a squad the tank serves as that distraction. It allows for coordinated strikes on objectives. Forcing the enemy to chose whether to deploy their own armor and risk losing it, deploy AV and engage the rest of the squad or any number of factors that makes squad warfare that much better. The fact it's a force multiplier is what makes it OP. Here's Wikipedia: Quote: Force multiplication, in military usage, refers to an attribute or a combination of attributes which make a given force more effective than that same force would be without it. The expected size increase required to have the same effectiveness without that advantage is the multiplication factor. For example, if a certain technology like GPS enables a force to accomplish the same results of a force five times as large but without GPS, then the multiplier is five. Let's just change that so it says: Quote: For example, if a certain technology like tanks enables a force to accomplish the same results of a force five times as large but without tanks, then the multiplier is five That's what makes 1.7 tanks OP - one tank is as effective as several men (maybe not five, but certainly two or more), conferring a decisive advantage on the side with the most tanks. And just to bring the point home, let's talk about something other than GPS or tanks: Quote: For example, if a certain technology like rail rifles enables a force to accomplish the same results of a force five times as large but without rail rifles, then the multiplier is five If that were true, do you not think everyone would think RRs were OP? If one RR user was worth 5 of any other infantry, people would laugh at you if you said 'RRs aren't OP, they're just a force multiplier'. So how are tanks any less OP where they are the force multiplier?
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 49	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:23:00 - [16] - Quote Tanks are not overpowered and cost wise they are where they should be. (Maybe militia ' s need to cost more.) Without max skills I can on average solo anyone who isn't talented) The problem is with the number of tanks and that doesn't come with an easy fix.
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 49	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:26:00 - [17] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Sadariel wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. Not the most important thing on the field as things can be countered. It become then much like chess. Where do you put the tank. Do they have a tank? A lot of AV? How far forward should I go? Should I stay back for long range support? There are many roles a tank can perform. Though it seems that this opinion is in the minority so I shall be quiet about it. So say I don't want to tank? What then? Why do I have to go full proto on the ground in Anti armor, which cost over 100,000 isk, while crap tankers spend half and get more out of it. I wanna run ground squad. What about us? Trying to counter tanks is a nightmare. My 6k AV can wipe out any tanker foolish enough to spend only 100k on their tank.
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 139	Posted - 2014.02.23 20:55:00 - [18] - Quote Scott Knight wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Sadariel wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. Not the most important thing on the field as things can be countered. It become then much like chess. Where do you put the tank. Do they have a tank? A lot of AV? How far forward should I go? Should I stay back for long range support? There are many roles a tank can perform. Though it seems that this opinion is in the minority so I shall be quiet about it. So say I don't want to tank? What then? Why do I have to go full proto on the ground in Anti armor, which cost over 100,000 isk, while crap tankers spend half and get more out of it. I wanna run ground squad. What about us? Trying to counter tanks is a nightmare. My 6k AV can wipe out any tanker foolish enough to spend only 100k on their tank. So can mine if I can get close, as in pass the kaalikiota rail rilfe, boundless combat rifle, blaster tank, boundless hmg, etc. Can't wait for OP mechs and a respec to pay these tanks back for all they're past discretion against me. I have put so much SP into swarms just to struggle and go broke against tanks smh. Destiny here I come. "Anybody order chaos?"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7423	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:00:00 - [19] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Sadariel wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. Not the most important thing on the field as things can be countered. It become then much like chess. Where do you put the tank. Do they have a tank? A lot of AV? How far forward should I go? Should I stay back for long range support? There are many roles a tank can perform. Though it seems that this opinion is in the minority so I shall be quiet about it. So say I don't want to tank? What then? Why do I have to go full proto on the ground in Anti armor, which cost over 100,000 isk, while crap tankers spend half and get more out of it. I wanna run ground squad. What about us? Trying to counter tanks is a nightmare. You don't have a choice. Your opponent just escalated the conflict. You then either have to step up or back out. You don't ever see EVE players ***** and moan because someone dropped a battleship fleet into a fight. Nope the opposing fleet either runs or it reships to counter that fleet. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Sadariel Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:36:00 - [20] - Quote Would we have B-R5RB if people backed down from a conflict? They continually jumped more and more in to fight that battle. Someone brings a gun to a knife fight? Get a bigger gun or run away.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7445	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:37:00 - [21] - Quote Sadariel wrote: Would we have B-R5RB if people backed down from a conflict? They continually jumped more and more in to fight that battle. Someone brings a gun to a knife fight? Get a bigger gun or run away. That's my point...but since I wasn't there I didn't want to bring is up as though I was. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 759	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:42:00 - [22] - Quote Sadariel wrote: It is not because it is the flavor of the month. Or that you cannot be stopped unless it is by another tank or a rare few coordinated squads. No it is about becoming the focal point. Every moment I stay on the battlefield supporting my team is another minute the enemy spends either trying to destroy my tank or avoid it. Much like the mass driver it is an area denial weapon. Used in support of a squad is a powerful asset not the end all be all of combat. It can push enemies from objectives even without firing a shot. The other team must risk their tanks as well to kill mine. So I may lose tanks or my WP are not at the top of the board. But that's not why I tank. I play my tank almost like a logistics role. In support of the squad and the team. Considering you are not repping or resupplying your allies you are really using it like a scout. An almost invincible scout. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7445	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:43:00 - [23] - Quote ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: Sadariel wrote: It is not because it is the flavor of the month. Or that you cannot be stopped unless it is by another tank or a rare few coordinated squads. No it is about becoming the focal point. Every moment I stay on the battlefield supporting my team is another minute the enemy spends either trying to destroy my tank or avoid it. Much like the mass driver it is an area denial weapon. Used in support of a squad is a powerful asset not the end all be all of combat. It can push enemies from objectives even without firing a shot. The other team must risk their tanks as well to kill mine. So I may lose tanks or my WP are not at the top of the board. But that's not why I tank. I play my tank almost like a logistics role. In support of the squad and the team. Considering you are not repping or resupplying your allies you are really using it like a scout. An almost invincible scout. \ I used to have a Light Scout Tank fit in 1.6 which was amazing.....it cannot be run anymore......but it was the most enjoyable tanking role I developed. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5054	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:30:00 - [24] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: I like tanks. I like turtles. Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub I've adapted, and soon I will HTFU... ...Permanently. In a Gunnlogi
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7450	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:56:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: I like tanks. I like turtles. They are the same thing. I like shuckle "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1744	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:57:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: I like tanks. I like turtles. They are the same thing. I like shuckle I like toytles. Patrick57 Carries us all Tanker Prof. V scrub Q_Q moar
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 511	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:59:00 - [27] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: Sadariel wrote: It is not because it is the flavor of the month. Or that you cannot be stopped unless it is by another tank or a rare few coordinated squads. No it is about becoming the focal point. Every moment I stay on the battlefield supporting my team is another minute the enemy spends either trying to destroy my tank or avoid it. Much like the mass driver it is an area denial weapon. Used in support of a squad is a powerful asset not the end all be all of combat. It can push enemies from objectives even without firing a shot. The other team must risk their tanks as well to kill mine. So I may lose tanks or my WP are not at the top of the board. But that's not why I tank. I play my tank almost like a logistics role. In support of the squad and the team. Its not tanks. Its the price of them, that is whats not right. So if your cheapest tank was to cost 500,000 ISK or more you would keep spawning them in death after death? Yes, it would hurt regular players more and not corp spammers 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 141	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:21:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Sadariel wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. Not the most important thing on the field as things can be countered. It become then much like chess. Where do you put the tank. Do they have a tank? A lot of AV? How far forward should I go? Should I stay back for long range support? There are many roles a tank can perform. Though it seems that this opinion is in the minority so I shall be quiet about it. So say I don't want to tank? What then? Why do I have to go full proto on the ground in Anti armor, which cost over 100,000 isk, while crap tankers spend half and get more out of it. I wanna run ground squad. What about us? Trying to counter tanks is a nightmare. You don't have a choice. Your opponent just escalated the conflict. You then either have to step up or back out. You don't ever see EVE players ***** and moan because someone dropped a battleship fleet into a fight So, I have to tank. Great?! Destiny here I come. Titanfall in march baby. Maybe they have sense. Nope the opposing fleet either runs or it reships to counter that fleet. "Anybody order chaos?"
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 323	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:30:00 - [29] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: I like tanks. I like turtles. They are the same thing. I like shuckle As the saying goes "You don't fuckle with Shuckle" *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7456	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:32:00 - [30] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Sadariel wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So you tank because you want to be the most important thing on the field? Yeah, with current tanks I guess you can have that. Not the most important thing on the field as things can be countered. It become then much like chess. Where do you put the tank. Do they have a tank? A lot of AV? How far forward should I go? Should I stay back for long range support? There are many roles a tank can perform. Though it seems that this opinion is in the minority so I shall be quiet about it. So say I don't want to tank? What then? Why do I have to go full proto on the ground in Anti armor, which cost over 100,000 isk, while crap tankers spend half and get more out of it. I wanna run ground squad. What about us? Trying to counter tanks is a nightmare. You don't have a choice. Your opponent just escalated the conflict. You then either have to step up or back out. You don't ever see EVE players ***** and moan because someone dropped a battleship fleet into a fight So, I have to tank. Great?! Destiny here I come. Titanfall in march baby. Maybe they have sense. Nope the opposing fleet either runs or it reships to counter that fleet. Titanfall is set to be poor from what I hear....and destiny is multiplayer co op MMO...if PvP or a sandbox aspect was in the game the highest level players would rule the game as well. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha



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