DUST Search - Pc-Fix confirmed for 1.8?

CommanderBolt wrote:

CCP Saberwing wrote:

Bendtner92 wrote:

Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues.

However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all.

TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW.

He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :)

I don't have much of a stake in PC any more but I do hope you fix the issues. To be honest I cant wait for PC 2.0 where it will really start to change but for now just fixing the locking would be a good start.

I am however more concerned with factional warfare. Right now I can never really get into any battles. I think just adding isk rewards would get people back into it. After that I think a deeper change may be needed.

1.8 needs to be good ccp. If 1.8 is everything we believe it will be then it will give me a lot of hope moving forwards.

Fanfest is coming up soonish and I know that's always a big time for you guys when it comes to announcements. (Are we going to hear about an EVE TV series??)

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Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 393	Posted - 2014.02.19 08:38:00 - [1] - Quote Didn't had the time to stalk the forums, like normal, so my questio is do we have a confirmed fix for that district lock ** with PC's in 1.8? PC is pretty much the only reason I still played the game, since it's erased as a game mode I really don't feel like playing this game anymore, would be nice to have something more concrete than "we are aware of the situation, and mayb or maybe not fix it" especially after this bug has been known and exploited by months. I know we do lock our districts aswell, so we are just as guilty as anybody else, but only us stop doing it wouldn't change . So can i get some intel on that? another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!**
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2014.02.19 08:42:00 - [2] - Quote They are aware of the issue. It cripples the end game. I would bet ISK that they are going to do something. Wither it fully fixes the issue involved is yet to be seen. Judging on CCP's past responses to issues, they will over fix it. Expect districts to all stay online all the time or something similarly ridiculous. Just look at the poor laser rifle and swarm launchers for insight :(.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 393	Posted - 2014.02.19 08:45:00 - [3] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: They are aware of the issue. It cripples the end game. I would bet ISK that they are going to do something. Wither it fully fixes the issue involved is yet to be seen. Judging on CCP's past responses to issues, they will over fix it. Expect districts to all stay online all the time or something similarly ridiculous. Just look at the poor laser rifle and swarm launchers for insight :(. Yeah I know that feel. Been full hearted LR ever since the glorious chromo days :( breaks my heart to see a weapon which used to be that awesome so crippled to the ground -.- Thanks for that info, lets see what CCP will deliver, maybe districts will stay locked for 10 minutes after a win lol another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1742	Posted - 2014.02.19 08:55:00 - [4] - Quote Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 1841	Posted - 2014.02.19 09:12:00 - [5] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 709	Posted - 2014.02.19 09:19:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) I don't have much of a stake in PC any more but I do hope you fix the issues. To be honest I cant wait for PC 2.0 where it will really start to change but for now just fixing the locking would be a good start. I am however more concerned with factional warfare. Right now I can never really get into any battles. I think just adding isk rewards would get people back into it. After that I think a deeper change may be needed. 1.8 needs to be good ccp. If 1.8 is everything we believe it will be then it will give me a lot of hope moving forwards. Fanfest is coming up soonish and I know that's always a big time for you guys when it comes to announcements. (Are we going to hear about an EVE TV series??)
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1291	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:06:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) Did someone say open player market?!!?!?!? Drop it like its hat.
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 180	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:09:00 - [8] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) Did someone say open player market?!!?!?!? No *"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left."*
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2339	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:23:00 - [9] - Quote Tbh i doubt they will fix it. They keep building half finished systems and ideas and get all supprised when it breaks. Everynow called FW screwing before it was even deployed and yeh the changes went it and now its even more broken than before just with a fancy front screen just to show you how broken it is. I know their not doing it on purpose no one sets out to fail. But until we get a system that works and dust stops getting treated as a after thought to the all might EvE i highly doubt we are going to see anything meanfull. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:33:00 - [10] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) I don't have much of a stake in PC any more but I do hope you fix the issues. To be honest I cant wait for PC 2.0 where it will really start to change but for now just fixing the locking would be a good start. I am however more concerned with factional warfare. Right now I can never really get into any battles. I think just adding isk rewards would get people back into it. After that I think a deeper change may be needed. 1.8 needs to be good ccp. If 1.8 is everything we believe it will be then it will give me a lot of hope moving forwards. Fanfest is coming up soonish and I know that's always a big time for you guys when it comes to announcements. (Are we going to hear about an EVE TV series??) Right now faction warfare I think is exactly where it can be with current friendly fire mechanics. People don't like it because it is easily griefed for profit no less. There are grief corps that spam starter fits and suicide to clone out their side and get paid by the opposing side. Add in that it's pretty much an all or nothing reward system, It just isn't worth playing with friendly fire and the current mechanics of the game, and this is coming from someone that thought friendly fire might work when it was announced.

steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2339	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:44:00 - [11] - Quote Friendly fire would work if ccp gave us some freaking way of self policeing like in EvE. But there is nothing we can do. Vote to kick was invented in shooters for a reason "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 584	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:04:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) More Eve-Dust link stuff to be shown at Fanfest?!!? Here's hoping. We want to make WAVES in New Eden, not just Molden Heath. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 68	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:14:00 - [13] - Quote problem with pc is it acts to much like a board game . with out pc skills in place 100 ppl can take over everything and that in its self is the problem . axis and allies comes to mind , the end is whn you can come back . there need to be corp skills in place to stop this but as we all know ccp doest like fair games . there games are baesd of bullying ppl to smash lower ppl .
The Attorney General 2119	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:28:00 - [14] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) More Eve-Dust link stuff to be shown at Fanfest?!!? Here's hoping. We want to make WAVES in New Eden, not just Molden Heath. I'd like a decent FPS first. With some balance, and with working comms. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire 166	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:29:00 - [15] - Quote BITTER VET MODE ACTIVATE pc is dumb and broken /rant just call me scumbag noob MAG vet raven ftw
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:44:00 - [16] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) More Eve-Dust link stuff to be shown at Fanfest?!!? Here's hoping. We want to make WAVES in New Eden, not just Molden Heath. I'd like a decent FPS first. With some balance, and with working comms. Comms won't be fixed this year. But we are aware of the situation and looking into it :) The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:45:00 - [17] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. I wondered if the EVE release was why Dust has been going nowhere fast lately. TTG seems to be the only team that does anything of use. So I guess this proves it. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:46:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) I'll fix it for free! Just comment out the 3 lines of code that refund ISK if no one hacks any points in a battle or no shows :) The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2883	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:38:00 - [19] - Quote I just wish the biggest issue wasn't the locking. The locking is a byproduct of the plethora of other issues. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 884	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:41:00 - [20] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I just wish the biggest issue wasn't the locking. The locking is a byproduct of the plethora of other issues. the locking is a byproduct of douchebags Who wants some?

GTA-V FTW 450	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:51:00 - [21] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I just wish the biggest issue wasn't the locking. The locking is a byproduct of the plethora of other issues. the locking is a byproduct of douchebags Broke game will always be broke, I have been saying it since day one. Dust is one of the most broke games out there, so yeah PC is and will always be a broke joke. *Golden Joysticks 2013 Game of the Year Grand Theft Auto V*
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:03:00 - [22] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I just wish the biggest issue wasn't the locking. The locking is a byproduct of the plethora of other issues. Semi-agree. PC favors the attacker. The worst thing that can happen is that the attacker loses the clones he sends and fills your district. At the same time, the attacker generates at least 160 clones before a counter attack could land. After launching an attack, the attacker should only receive one day of clone regen. It would cripple the hyper-aggressive style that has characterized every dominate U.S. team since PC started. Locking itself is the result of a few factors. When an attack is launched and both sides no show, the defender automatically wins. At this point the clone pack is refunded and a well known exploit is used to generate extra isk (potentially infinite amounts actually, though typically "only" 15mil). A few easy fixes could solve this problem. >Changing the auto win team to the attacker would deter this strategy by making it FAR more work to lock districts. >Elimination of the refund for clone packs would make it more costly to employ such strategys >Fixing the exploit. Clone packs still don't include enough clones. With the instant kill gib fest that is dust since the addition of auto-aim and scanners, 120 kills is not enough to beat any "proper" team loaded with combat rifles, tanks, and scanners. Clone packs should cost more and come with 130-150 clones. This would have the effect of making districts less valuable overall AND make locking more costly(once clone pack refunds are removed)
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 197	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:04:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) Attacks should be rewarded to the corp who can send in the most clones in the first 12 hours of the attack notification. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2204	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:13:00 - [24] - Quote The Shadow/ Cold War continues... To the public PC seems dominant and stable. However, the struggle for power, dominance, and ruthless dominance still continues in the lawless alleyways of Molden Heath. Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset* I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 427	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:09:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Just asked Saberwing about PC/FW fixes in 1.8 and he said they are bringing Nullarbor over to Shanghai to see what they can do about PC district locking issues. However, it sounded like there might not be something in 1.8 (depending on what they want to do I think), and it certainly sounded like no FW changes in 1.8 at all. TTG is working on EVE at the moment, so it seems like they have no one in Shanghai working on PC/FW. He's not coming over solely to fix PC - but he's mentioned that he's interested in working on it while he's out here. :) You guys are ******* clown shoes. 1. >300 players farm billions of ill-gotten ISK. 2. Player Market Opens 3. >300 players own all officer weapons/corner market within two weeks 4. Dust dies At least Nullarbor has 'mentioned' he's "interested in working on it". Sounds very promising for the future of this game Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 427	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:10:00 - [26] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: The Shadow/ Cold War continues... *To the public PC seems dominant and stable. However, the struggle for power, dominance, and ruthless dominance still continues in the lawless alleyways of Molden Heath. What is the difference between dominance and ruthless dominance? Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2208	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:12:00 - [27] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: The Shadow/ Cold War continues... To the public PC seems dominant and stable. However, the struggle for power, dominance, and ruthless dominance still continues in the lawless alleyways of Molden Heath. What is the difference between dominance and ruthless dominance? Mistake were made* Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 393	Posted - 2014.02.19 21:00:00 - [28] - Quote For me Dust is like this: Pubmatches: To be stomped or get stomped (quiet randomly, rare good fights) FW: A joke. You can choose your side, do you wanna win?->minni, gallente. Wanna loose?-->Amarr, Caldari. Very rare good fights. PC: Challenging a well organised team and organising your team, active teamplay, mostly entertaining and close fights. Without PC Dust is just not the same. Personaly if 1.8 wont bring any changes i doubt that i will play alot. Might be fun for a week or two but all the grinding is not worth it if you don't have a motivation like PC as Endgame. I hope CCP is aware of this situation, because everytime we have PC's going crazy we have a ** load of players jumping up and want to ++articipate, especially the newer players, so if you want to keep this game intresting and dofferent from other games PC is the way to go. Not pnly the way it is, but maybe even with a bigger starmap to give more players and corps the opportunity to actively engage into the actual endgame. another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!**
Lex DOCIEL What The French Red Whines 40	Posted - 2014.02.20 01:51:00 - [29] - Quote I read a lot of good posts in here. I cannot say if I am a veteran, but I can say that Dust last changes really start getting on my nerves. I am patient and passionate about this game. But as a scoot player, I really start getting crazy. Assaults using scanners non-stop. Logies playing assault with rail riffles. Heavies at every corner (the 1.8 announcements about heavies + february event) can only be countered by other heavies, or in my case, remote explosives. Such explosives being concieved to work against vehicles (tanks mostly) and to defend null canons. But as it takes like 10 seconds to plant 3 remotes on the back of the tank, as AV grenades are now worthless, as SL have been nerfed, and as I cannot fit a forge-gun on a light dropsuit (maybe I should ask for it, who knows ?), the tank is already gone (because it is faster that a jeep, remember ?) or I got killed by any militia assault rifle who touched me with 2 rounds. For the history, I started playing scout with a speed fit. But being scanned the whole game, and a scanned scout being a dead one, I change strategy. So I tried the low profile fit. But not being able to strafe properly, and a scout who cannot strage being a dead one, I change strategy. So I tried the scneaky fit (nova / remotes / catalyzer / low profile). Nobody sees me coming, and I can one-shot pretty much every one I get close to. Well, it is close to work in public/FW, not that much against vets in PC. And when it does work, you receive hate mails anyway (actually GoodGame mails if your kills were mostly nova, and hate mails when it was remotes). Not liking being insulted after a game, I change strategy. In the end, I ended doing what every scouts do : get my gallente dropsuit, stack some plates, fit a shotgun, and run my scan. At every game. On every mods. Well that works. When the frame-rate is doing ok, depending on the map... To conclude, unbalanced weapons, unbalanced vehicles, equipment spamming and exploit, bad game fluidity, low quality gameplay control, over-efficient aim assistance, ridiculously short TTK, disappearance of skills impact on the game, bad public match making, broken FW, frozen PC, red-line issues, close to non-existent EVE-Dust link... And I did pay for that. But Cumbaya ! CCP take vacations, making the update release even later, and we got our Quafe CK.0 for Valentine's day. Everything's fine. Do listen CCP, the number of angry and borred players is growing. Even your core players start getting tired of your never ending promises. We want Dust to be great. Fix it now, you won't have many chances left to do it right. Your blade is an extension of your mind. It must be swift, silent, focused. And deadly.
Jin no kami Valor Coalition 25	Posted - 2014.02.20 17:44:00 - [30] - Quote Districts gain you no isk or a flat rate of 500k a day clone packs are not refunded this could kill two birds with one stone ppl would open districts or sink the tons of isk they made to keep them locked =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖî

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2894	Posted - 2014.02.20 17:56:00 - [31] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I just wish the biggest issue wasn't the locking. The locking is a byproduct of the plethora of other issues. the locking is a byproduct of douchebags Coming from the dude who's corp was crying about glitches and exploits when they got stomped out of PC, lol. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott


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