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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.02.19 00:50:00 -
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With 1.8 my potent domilitions minmatar logi will be dead and gone sadly and i know alot of you inthe community here follow a similar path.
Demolitions logi
winmatar logi with max hacking and 1 complex hack module, packing remotes in various flavors and nanohives to supply.
the key part of the spec that justified it was the hacking bonus, it alowed me to justify not being your typical logi while maintaining some amazing squad utility and massive defencive potential.
unfortunatly that hack bonus is being replaced by a repair bonus, one that i will never use. So i started searching for new alturnatives, the caldari logi was attractive since the nanohive nerf would be countered by its bonus and i would actually be able to make use of a logi bonus that way but it just diddnt feel right with my minmatar roots. The gallante bonus has the scanning bonus and while i sometimes use a scanner the incoming nerf means your going to be a sitting duck while your scanning for even longer post 1.8, not only that but its terribly slow and for a speed reak like me it just couldnt hold a candle to what i could originally do, and dont even ask about amaar.
It looks like the minmatar scout will be the go-to suit for those of us who are dedicated to the way of the BOOM, combining with the rich Minja history and bringing to it a vast weath of knowledge of the use and abuse of our favorite little packages.
come 1.8 i have to say goodbye to the suit that served me well for so long, and venture into the world of subterfuge, assasination, quick thinking, and even quicker reflexes.
who else amung us explosive specialists will be moving on and following the hacking bonus from the minmatar logi to the Minja scout? |
Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
145
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:05:00 -
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So... just to be clear, are you looking forward to the new roles and awesomeness the scouts will have in 1.8 or are you complaining about how how awesome scouts are going to be while you are losing your old gaming style?
Because all I hear read from this is that your adapting to the new norm that will be 1.8 and I salute you for it. o7
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3189
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:06:00 -
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I would think that any scout is good for explosives really.....particularly Gal/Cal spooks since they can "see through walls"
(I Enjoy Difficulty); GB-9 Breach AR, EK-AR Breach Mass Driver, GK-13 and Allotek Burst AR
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
11143
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:33:00 -
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Assuming a full infantry respec, and thus my continued / renewed presence on the battlefield, I will be going Gallente Scout, but I too will skill into the BOOM.
I want to sneak up on tanks, run around them placing REs, murder the scrub if he decides to get out, then laugh my way to the bank as I run around the corner, collect my 200 WP, and **** his friend for good measure
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
5257
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:35:00 -
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My playstyle won't be dead.
Because I won't be playing.
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I go negative in PC, yay
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
102
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:41:00 -
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The very first thing I learned about DUST is that the devs change up so much, so often, that it's best not to get attatched to a certain suit or weapon. Which sucks, because I would be the biggest scrub ever by now running around all FOTM proto and loving it. What do you do when suddenly your favorite way to play no longer works? That really sucks.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
102
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:44:00 -
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Actually, I would go one step further and say that players in this circumstance have a free pass and can QQ with impunity. I actually feel bad now.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1112
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:03:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Actually, I would go one step further and say that players in this circumstance have a free pass and can QQ with impunity. I actually feel bad now.
i wont ever QQ about this, i will morne its loss sure, but its an adapt or die world we live in.
its sad to see the demo- logi powerhouse go for sure, its simply no longer justifyable even if it is technically still viable.
a big part of my playstyle was that hacking bonus though and im definatly not the type of logi that would run around with a rep tool as its too passive for my taste, i was an acceptable breed of slayer logi, because i wasnt going for pure EHP and FOTM weapon i was fully loaded with expencive and cpu/pg intensive equipment and went in to every game with the expectation that at some point i would ultimatly suicide my proto suit for a win with either a clutch ninja hack or using myself as bait in the middle of my own minefields.
the Minja way wont be the same however, because i will inevitably lack the nanohives that let me acomplish some of my more extensive R/E stratagies but i will adapt never the less and try to bring some new ideas and passion to the minja way using my experiances thus far.
alot is going to change with 1.8 and it will be as different from pre 1.8 as the game was pre uprising, and alot of people are going to find themselves in a similar situation to me where their previous playstyle will have to undergo radical changes and maybe even comeplete overhauls.
i made this thread in memory to my faithful logi suit, that "Sever" logi has served me well for a year now and while i will still inevitably skill into it, it just wont have the same life it once had, and will be tucked saftly away at the bottom of my fittings as nothing more then a cheap uplink suit.
R.I.P demo-logi, you served me well and carried me through the rough early months of my dust carrier and made me the player i am today. |
DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
129
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:16:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Actually, I would go one step further and say that players in this circumstance have a free pass and can QQ with impunity. I actually feel bad now. i wont ever QQ about this, i will morne its loss sure, but its an adapt or die world we live in. its sad to see the demo- logi powerhouse go for sure, its simply no longer justifyable even if it is technically still viable. a big part of my playstyle was that hacking bonus though and im definatly not the type of logi that would run around with a rep tool as its too passive for my taste, i was an acceptable breed of slayer logi, because i wasnt going for pure EHP and FOTM weapon i was fully loaded with expencive and cpu/pg intensive equipment and went in to every game with the expectation that at some point i would ultimatly suicide my proto suit for a win with either a clutch ninja hack or using myself as bait in the middle of my own minefields. the Minja way wont be the same however, because i will inevitably lack the nanohives that let me acomplish some of my more extensive R/E stratagies but i will adapt never the less and try to bring some new ideas and passion to the minja way using my experiances thus far. alot is going to change with 1.8 and it will be as different from pre 1.8 as the game was pre uprising, and alot of people are going to find themselves in a similar situation to me where their previous playstyle will have to undergo radical changes and maybe even comeplete overhauls. i made this thread in memory to my faithful logi suit, that "Sever" logi has served me well for a year now and while i will still inevitably skill into it, it just wont have the same life it once had, and will be tucked saftly away at the bottom of my fittings as nothing more then a cheap uplink suit. R.I.P demo-logi, you served me well and carried me through the rough early months of my dust carrier and made me the player i am today. there is modules for hacking
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1716
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:18:00 -
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I will continue to be a DemoLogi, though I will also be experimenting with Minja more in depth than I have previously.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
860
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:20:00 -
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I agree entirely. The death of my glorious Min Logi is the single reason why I'm so vocal on the respec thread. I picked something for a very specific purpose, basically the same as yours but also as an uplink sprinter, and now they haven't just made it less good, they made it the opposite of what it was. I haven't touched, nor will I ever touch, a repair tool.
I'm definitely going scout in 1.8, though it remains to be seen whether I'll go for the hack bonus again or for the more EWAR bonuses. Going to feel that one out. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1113
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:21:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:there is modules for hacking
very very powerful modules for hacking :P
imagine never getting shot in the back while hacking ever again
imagine always being able to to hack a point even with intense resistance because it takes all of a second :P
imagine being able to counter hack a point faster then most people can normally hack |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1113
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:24:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:I will continue to be a DemoLogi, though I will also be experimenting with Minja more in depth than I have previously.
are you sticking with minmatar? (assuming you are minmater :P) and picking up a repair tool or are you swapping for something you can use the bonus from? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1716
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:36:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I will continue to be a DemoLogi, though I will also be experimenting with Minja more in depth than I have previously. are you sticking with minmatar? (assuming you are minmater :P) and picking up a repair tool or are you swapping for something you can use the bonus from? Yes, I will be sticking with Minmatar. I won't be "picking up" a Reps Leash, I already regularly walk heavies so the new bonus is no more than a tweak for me. I put all equipment types to use, I am not a "specialized" logi in the traditional sense of it. I view myself as more of a "battlefield facilitator" capable of bringing the needed equipment at a moment's notice.
On the topic of hacking, I always find it amusing when squadmates display astonishment at the speed with which I hack. I have a corpie who has told me that he loves it when I come to help him with the hack since once I am helping the hack is essentially done. If I remember the quote correctly "In the time it takes me to get it 3-4 ticks in, you've already finished the hack".
What can I say? When you are skilled for Proto MinLogi and Complex Codebreakers you burn through hacks like nothing.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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3Dollars Too Short
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
73
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:43:00 -
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My play style died when 1.7 came out! Then Dust died for me for a good 6 months! Looks like this merc is digging up his own grave! |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1113
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Posted - 2014.02.19 03:12:00 -
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3Dollars Too Short wrote:My play style died when 1.7 came out! Then Dust died for me for a good 6 months! Looks like this merc is digging up his own grave!
if your talking about AV you should be ashamed of yoruself.
people abandoning AV rather then step up their game is part of the reason tanks are as big a problem as they are.
us demo guys picked up your slack even though weve been blowing up tanks with R/Es since the begining, most tankers arnt any more intellegent then they were before, it just requires planning to kill them off now rather then point and BOOM.
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HYENAKILLER X
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
609
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Posted - 2014.02.19 03:19:00 -
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Bro, ide prolly spend 200$ on getting the armor rep bonus back to gallente. +5 armor a sec with 1 complex mod is 12 hp per sec on current gal logi.
Things just got really, really good for you.
You are going to love it!
Tanks are for pussies.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7302
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Posted - 2014.02.19 03:22:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:With 1.8 my potent domilitions minmatar logi will be dead and gone sadly and i know alot of you inthe community here follow a similar path.
Demolitions logi
winmatar logi with max hacking and 1 complex hack module, packing remotes in various flavors and nanohives to supply.
the key part of the spec that justified it was the hacking bonus, it alowed me to justify not being your typical logi while maintaining some amazing squad utility and massive defencive potential.
unfortunatly that hack bonus is being replaced by a repair bonus, one that i will never use. So i started searching for new alturnatives, the caldari logi was attractive since the nanohive nerf would be countered by its bonus and i would actually be able to make use of a logi bonus that way but it just diddnt feel right with my minmatar roots. The gallante bonus has the scanning bonus and while i sometimes use a scanner the incoming nerf means your going to be a sitting duck while your scanning for even longer post 1.8, not only that but its terribly slow and for a speed reak like me it just couldnt hold a candle to what i could originally do, and dont even ask about amaar.
It looks like the minmatar scout will be the go-to suit for those of us who are dedicated to the way of the BOOM, combining with the rich Minja history and bringing to it a vast weath of knowledge of the use and abuse of our favorite little packages.
come 1.8 i have to say goodbye to the suit that served me well for so long, and venture into the world of subterfuge, assasination, quick thinking, and even quicker reflexes.
who else amung us explosive specialists will be moving on and following the hacking bonus from the minmatar logi to the Minja scout?
I hate your mine fields..... all those humiliations were made up for when I shot you out of the air mid jump on the fly in a tank with a rail gun.
I salute the sapper that you were, but will not miss your filthy Matari mines.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1113
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Posted - 2014.02.19 03:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:With 1.8 my potent domilitions minmatar logi will be dead and gone sadly and i know alot of you inthe community here follow a similar path.
Demolitions logi
winmatar logi with max hacking and 1 complex hack module, packing remotes in various flavors and nanohives to supply.
the key part of the spec that justified it was the hacking bonus, it alowed me to justify not being your typical logi while maintaining some amazing squad utility and massive defencive potential.
unfortunatly that hack bonus is being replaced by a repair bonus, one that i will never use. So i started searching for new alturnatives, the caldari logi was attractive since the nanohive nerf would be countered by its bonus and i would actually be able to make use of a logi bonus that way but it just diddnt feel right with my minmatar roots. The gallante bonus has the scanning bonus and while i sometimes use a scanner the incoming nerf means your going to be a sitting duck while your scanning for even longer post 1.8, not only that but its terribly slow and for a speed reak like me it just couldnt hold a candle to what i could originally do, and dont even ask about amaar.
It looks like the minmatar scout will be the go-to suit for those of us who are dedicated to the way of the BOOM, combining with the rich Minja history and bringing to it a vast weath of knowledge of the use and abuse of our favorite little packages.
come 1.8 i have to say goodbye to the suit that served me well for so long, and venture into the world of subterfuge, assasination, quick thinking, and even quicker reflexes.
who else amung us explosive specialists will be moving on and following the hacking bonus from the minmatar logi to the Minja scout? I hate your mine fields..... all those humiliations were made up for when I shot you out of the air mid jump on the fly in a tank with a rail gun. I salute the sapper that you were, but will not miss your filthy Matari mines.
oh the mines arnt going anywhere... i just cant run any of my 9 remote formations with redundant triggers anymore :P
im now going to be invisable and packing knives.... i wouldnt be counting your blessings just yet.
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
205
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Posted - 2014.02.19 03:39:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:3Dollars Too Short wrote:My play style died when 1.7 came out! Then Dust died for me for a good 6 months! Looks like this merc is digging up his own grave! if your talking about AV you should be ashamed of yoruself. people abandoning AV rather then step up their game is part of the reason tanks are as big a problem as they are. us demo guys picked up your slack even though weve been blowing up tanks with R/Es since the begining, most tankers arnt any more intellegent then they were before, it just requires planning to kill them off now rather then point and BOOM. The only bonus your missing really is the 25% so if you have the 25% passive hacking skill bonus, and complex hack mods anyway your speed hack and your fit is only gonna mildly change since you have 4 lows, so how many hack mods did you use? To run anything over 3 is pointless due to stacking penalties.
And yes you had 50% power before mods, an I know you got a minja scout too, but really your LOGI still has a better chance at the speed hack than the scout cuz you have 4 lows plus the higher HP , hardly any scout is gonna rock mor than 1 mod, A . Fitting cost, B gettaway mods are more important, and C, a gal LOGI with 5 lows might have more ability an the passive armor rep.
I feel your pain but in essence the whole speed hack got NERFED overal not just for min LOGI , cuz no scout is gonna run just proto an 3 code breakers, with only343 shield HP an 90 armor just to ninja hack, with 838 run speed.
I think you ll hardly notice that much of a speed difference but your fitting definitly got NERFED if your gonna pull a fast hack like before.
Did you compare now an future math to see how much sprint an hack speed ur actually gonna lose? |
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