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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:35:00 -
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no because then i wouldnt be able to do barrel rolls and backflips anymore |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:no because then i wouldnt be able to do barrel rolls and backflips anymore I still need to figure one thing out with my Incubus. Every now and then I'll do like a partial backflip, and I will somehow gain tremendous speed and have difficulty pulling the ship back up, but in the span of like 4 seconds I've crossed over half the map. I haven't really been able to replicate it, it just sort of happens to me, but I feel like whatever that is, is an advanced maneuver, and I would love to learn to use it reliably.
its ALOT harder in the incubus.
i suspect you would have to do a partial backflip.
- get high :P
- activate afterburner
-point nose strait up
- instead opf carrying over onto your back all the way around you have to start pointing your nose left or rtight and carry it through
- you then have to correct your dropship so that its no longer upside down and sideways.
the trick is to do it quickly in one fluid motion and with the incubus it isnt so much a backflip as it is a 180, and so if your good at 180s then use that same manuver but with your nose pointed at the sky and it should work out for you.
as for the part where you lose alot of altitude i find that instead of relying on r2 and afterburner alone you can use dusts "wind" resistance to slow you down as well, but you have to point the bottom of your dropship exactly in the direction of your momentum so that your pointed kinda completly oposite to the direction your moving in as many ways as possable, and then point the dropship sideways, this for some reason creates alot of "air" resistance and you can come to a complete standstill quite quickly that way. i use that trick for ending high speed dives into hot territory.
to be honest in a python its ALOT easyer and its also easyer to stop the thing, so i usually use a backflip to gain stupid amounts of speed then carry that speed with me at super low altitude for evasive flying.
i suspect that because of how dropships are coded, the way to arrest movement is to point your dropship in as much of an exact oposite position as you can as long as that direct isnt upside down.
so suddenly turning backwards while pointing the dropship downwards int he direction you just came from has the effect of turning the air into a solid wall of resistance because none of the dropships native flight calculations are working in the favor of your current momentum.
P.S. we need to squad up sometime and swap some manuvering tricks |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:11:00 -
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there are just too many fun and cool ways to defy gravity with dropships in the game right now and not a single dropship enthusist would give them up because they are just too much damn fun to do |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:16:00 -
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a great way to learn to fly dropships is to go play kerbal space program
use the knowledge you gain from manuvering in space to improve your overall understanding of the physics invovled in manuvering in space to control your trajectory when your flying around in a dropship :P
also try building a V-TOL then take it to either minmus/mun or Duna (easyest to hardest) wich have lighter gravity then kerbal and you get closer to in game gravity effects on planet in dust.
if you can sucessfully launch a v-tol to duna, land, and return to kerbin you will instantly become a better dropship pilot. |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:35:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:I am in support of auto hover on DSs.
I am assuming this is kinda asking for maintaining altitude when not holding down the throttle, combined with deceleration when not pushing the stick forward.
it already auto hovers without pressing r2..... dropships naturally maintain their altitude when your level they have a set amount of thrust pointed strait down at all times, its just that we also use this as our primary forward thrust by pointing our nose down.
it doesnt decelerate ill give you that, but thats because it functions like an aircraft in that it keeps and carrys its momentum, to correct you simply have to thurst oposite your momentum like a spacecraft would to slow down. |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:P.S. we need to squad up sometime and swap some manuvering tricks I haven't been playing all that much lately, but next time I'm on I'll toss you a message and add you to contacts. I like flying formation though it's tough for me to keep up with Pythons as an armored Incubus 
thats fine im usually flying wingman with means the incubus would lead anyways, and the python would be able to maintain position on an incubus better then the other way around. im used to keeping up with other pythons so i imagine it would be alot easyer, plus your a left favoring pilot like myself and most pilots (aka your right handed :P) so its easyer to keep in formation. |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:56:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am in support of auto hover on DSs.
I am assuming this is kinda asking for maintaining altitude when not holding down the throttle, combined with deceleration when not pushing the stick forward. it already auto hovers without pressing r2..... dropships naturally maintain their altitude when your level they have a set amount of thrust pointed strait down at all times, its just that we also use this as our primary forward thrust by pointing our nose down. it doesnt decelerate ill give you that, but thats because it functions like an aircraft in that it keeps and carrys its momentum, to correct you simply have to thurst oposite your momentum like a spacecraft would to slow down. Hovering was one of the first skills I learned, it just comes naturally to me now. I can hover quite efficiently in my Myron, but I'm never perfectly stable while flying a python.
it comes with practice :P
i can be perfectly stable in my python with my nose pointed strait down at a forge gunner, its all about canceling out momentum.
your dropship always produces thrust pointed strait down, so just point that trust oposite to your momentum and you can stall out for a few seconds in the oddest positions, it works on every direction except up :P
you shouldnt be in a dead hover for longer then 5 seconds anyways |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:05:00 -
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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:a great way to learn to fly dropships is to go play kerbal space program
use the knowledge you gain from manuvering in space to improve your overall understanding of the physics invovled in manuvering in space to control your trajectory when your flying around in a dropship :P
also try building a V-TOL then take it to either minmus/mun or Duna (easyest to hardest) wich have lighter gravity then kerbal and you get closer to in game gravity effects on planet in dust.
if you can sucessfully launch a v-tol to duna, land, and return to kerbin you will instantly become a better dropship pilot. oh man i've wanted to play kerbal for ever. unfortunately my better PC is down. how about instead of making the DS easier we focus on making the pilot suit effective.
yah im lucky enough that i can build a decent working computer out of random parts :P
what kind of hardware do you have to work with? becuase im only running an 8 year old dual core motherboard with 8 gigs or ram , an old $100 graphics card i got on clearance and a SSD. ive tweeked it all a little bit but its all pretty old hardware thats fairly cheap nowadays.
i can generally rebuild computers from whatever old parts people have laying around for about 300-400 bucks worth of new parts and they end up compairable in power to the 900-1200 dollar machines you can buy off the shelf.
with a little caution and some create use of google you can rebuild nearly any computer for very little cost and get quite alot of performance out of it.
half the parts in my amchine were traded for my tech servaces so i cheated :P my SSD and my ram were all traded parts so my computer cost me about 120 bucks since i used old scrap computers to fill everything but the graphics card (wich is the part thats hardest to get as scrap) |
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Posted - 2014.02.18 22:38:00 -
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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:a great way to learn to fly dropships is to go play kerbal space program
use the knowledge you gain from manuvering in space to improve your overall understanding of the physics invovled in manuvering in space to control your trajectory when your flying around in a dropship :P
also try building a V-TOL then take it to either minmus/mun or Duna (easyest to hardest) wich have lighter gravity then kerbal and you get closer to in game gravity effects on planet in dust.
if you can sucessfully launch a v-tol to duna, land, and return to kerbin you will instantly become a better dropship pilot. oh man i've wanted to play kerbal for ever. unfortunately my better PC is down. how about instead of making the DS easier we focus on making the pilot suit effective. yah im lucky enough that i can build a decent working computer out of random parts :P what kind of hardware do you have to work with? becuase im only running an 8 year old dual core motherboard with 8 gigs or ram , an old $100 graphics card i got on clearance and a SSD. ive tweeked it all a little bit but its all pretty old hardware thats fairly cheap nowadays. i can generally rebuild computers from whatever old parts people have laying around for about 300-400 bucks worth of new parts and they end up compairable in power to the 900-1200 dollar machines you can buy off the shelf. with a little caution and some create use of google you can rebuild nearly any computer for very little cost and get quite alot of performance out of it. half the parts in my amchine were traded for my tech servaces so i cheated :P my SSD and my ram were all traded parts so my computer cost me about 120 bucks since i used old scrap computers to fill everything but the graphics card (wich is the part thats hardest to get as scrap) i had a dell xps 8100 but the motherboard fried. i kinda suspect it was from this one build in EVE the carbon engine was rumored to be frying machines and mine crashed around this time. i should really look into what you said , at the time around 2011 it was around $350 to fix but that was with labor. it was some kinda big deal to order that kinda motherboard back then. i keep coming back to dust because i'm hooked on the current flight but would rather be playing PC more especially planetside, kebal and world war II online.
it fried because its a dell :P they use parts that havnt passed quality control from the main production lines from high end motherboards but are still good enough quality to be used, they just rebrand the board and buy in huge bulk anything that falls below a certain quality level.
my board was from an old custom build machine a small time computer parts store was using for a floor model, i picked it and its original hardware up for about 250 bucks way back in the day , you can get really good starter machines that way.
basically avoid anything thats store branded or is MDG or Dell (and by association alienware)
buying parts is cheaper then paying someone else, as labor is a good 60% of the cost.
the exact same thing happened to my roomate and i fixed her machine for $150 with BETTER parts, so that it would essentially be an invulintary upgrade and i only charged her a $50 set of ram :P
find someone who builds PCs as a hobby and bribe them with new parts for cheap computer maintainance :P
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