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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:49:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:In no way am I trying to promote this game by saying this, it's only a fact here (and a depressing one). GTA Online, in 4 months of it being out, has released more (actually new) content into the game than dust has in over its entire 1+ year of being released. What's up Shanghai? I mean, really. 
Rockstar has an absolutely huge development team (Numbering more then 500 employees for GTA online alone while dust doesn't even have 100 I believe and some of those devs are split between iceland and shanghai). If they didn't release that much content in 4 months then they would've been seen as a joke to every other game company. Really for the amount of devs they have working on GTA online they are actually doing pretty bad on the new content. Also not to mention that GTA V was guaranteed profit so it got plenty of money to spend on the game. (The largest budget for any game made so far in fact) Also after having made over a billion dollars within three days of release you should have plenty of money to make the game better without any risk. Oh and Rockstar has said GTA onliebn is going to continue even after GTA V. Rockstar wants GTA online to be a continued way of making money so of course they're going to release a lot of new content to keep their playerbase contempt so they can make more money.
Seriously I don't even see why people compare two games with one being made by a niche indie company and the other being made by a triple A company with an already established playerbase. Hell the two aren't even the same type of game. |
Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:51:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:One game is a huge AAA title that was highly anticipated.
The other is a niche test game with a small dev team and virtually no public appeal. Yes, but this niche game has a backing of a giant, online MMO that has hundreds of thousands of members, with arguably one of the most dedicated fanbases in gaming history, you'd think they would know a thing or two about how to conduct a good start-up for a game like this..
Yea and why do you think this game hasn't been shutdown yet? Because of the money EVE makes. Any other company would've already ditched dust 514 by now seeing as this game barely averages little over 4k players at peak times. Although the dev team for dust is a lot smaller then EVEs. |
Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:06:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Serimos Haeraven wrote:In no way am I trying to promote this game by saying this, it's only a fact here (and a depressing one). GTA Online, in 4 months of it being out, has released more (actually new) content into the game than dust has in over its entire 1+ year of being released. What's up Shanghai? I mean, really. Rockstar has an absolutely huge development team (Numbering more then 500 employees for GTA online alone while dust doesn't even have 100 I believe and some of those devs are split between iceland and shanghai). If they didn't release that much content in 4 months then they would've been seen as a joke to every other game company. Really for the amount of devs they have working on GTA online they are actually doing pretty bad on the new content. Also not to mention that GTA V was guaranteed profit so it got plenty of money to spend on the game. (The largest budget for any game made so far in fact) Also after having made over a billion dollars within three days of release you should have plenty of money to make the game better without any risk. Oh and Rockstar has said GTA onliebn is going to continue even after GTA V. Rockstar wants GTA online to be a continued way of making money so of course they're going to release a lot of new content to keep their playerbase contempt so they can make more money. Seriously I don't even see why people compare two games with one being made by a niche indie company and the other being made by a triple A company with an already established playerbase. Hell the two aren't even the same type of game. The whole point I'm trying to point out here is that GTA V is more of an MMO than Dust is right now. Dust is so far from where it claimed it was going to be by now it's not even funny, and CCP has a triple A game behind it's belt, and is making certainly a good amount of money from it.
GTA Online is trying to be an MMO. That is rockstars attempt at an MMO. Do you get that? Also CCP does not make anywhere near as much as Rockstar does especially considering Rockstar has multiple triple A titles EVERY YEAR making them billions. Also EVE maybe considered a very good game but it is not triple A. Triple A is CoD, GTA, and Battlefield. You know the games that have well over 1 million players each. Also do you realize that game companies wont dump money into a game unless they are seeing a profit from that game. Which less money = less employees which=less people working on the game which= less and lower quality content. Also most of the profit from EVE most likely goes back to EVEs budget. Dust most likely gets barely enough money to stay afloat from EVE. |
Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:08:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Serimos Haeraven wrote:In no way am I trying to promote this game by saying this, it's only a fact here (and a depressing one). GTA Online, in 4 months of it being out, has released more (actually new) content into the game than dust has in over its entire 1+ year of being released. What's up Shanghai? I mean, really. Rockstar has an absolutely huge development team (Numbering more then 500 employees for GTA online alone while dust doesn't even have 100 I believe and some of those devs are split between iceland and shanghai). If they didn't release that much content in 4 months then they would've been seen as a joke to every other game company. Really for the amount of devs they have working on GTA online they are actually doing pretty bad on the new content. Also not to mention that GTA V was guaranteed profit so it got plenty of money to spend on the game. (The largest budget for any game made so far in fact) Also after having made over a billion dollars within three days of release you should have plenty of money to make the game better without any risk. Oh and Rockstar has said GTA onliebn is going to continue even after GTA V. Rockstar wants GTA online to be a continued way of making money so of course they're going to release a lot of new content to keep their playerbase contempt so they can make more money. Seriously I don't even see why people compare two games with one being made by a niche indie company and the other being made by a triple A company with an already established playerbase. Hell the two aren't even the same type of game. The whole point I'm trying to point out here is that GTA V is more of an MMO than Dust is right now. Dust is so far from where it claimed it was going to be by now it's not even funny, and CCP has a triple A game behind it's belt, and is making certainly a good amount of money from it CONSTANTLY. GTA V isn't supported in the way EVE is, it only has cash cards to bring in monthly income (and not a lot of people get cash cards). EvE and it's Plex system is an entirely different story however. And to think that a company with such a successful monopoly lets Shanghai bring Dust into complete ruin from the first start makes me completely confused.
Replying to the part you edited in:
Why would GTA need support like EVE when Rockstar makes plenty of money from the many games they make every year. You got to realize Rockstars only game isnt gta. They have many different franchises that make plenty of money. |
Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:14:00 -
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Serimos Haeraven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Serimos Haeraven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Serimos Haeraven wrote:In no way am I trying to promote this game by saying this, it's only a fact here (and a depressing one). GTA Online, in 4 months of it being out, has released more (actually new) content into the game than dust has in over its entire 1+ year of being released. What's up Shanghai? I mean, really. Rockstar has an absolutely huge development team (Numbering more then 500 employees for GTA online alone while dust doesn't even have 100 I believe and some of those devs are split between iceland and shanghai). If they didn't release that much content in 4 months then they would've been seen as a joke to every other game company. Really for the amount of devs they have working on GTA online they are actually doing pretty bad on the new content. Also not to mention that GTA V was guaranteed profit so it got plenty of money to spend on the game. (The largest budget for any game made so far in fact) Also after having made over a billion dollars within three days of release you should have plenty of money to make the game better without any risk. Oh and Rockstar has said GTA onliebn is going to continue even after GTA V. Rockstar wants GTA online to be a continued way of making money so of course they're going to release a lot of new content to keep their playerbase contempt so they can make more money. Seriously I don't even see why people compare two games with one being made by a niche indie company and the other being made by a triple A company with an already established playerbase. Hell the two aren't even the same type of game. The whole point I'm trying to point out here is that GTA V is more of an MMO than Dust is right now. Dust is so far from where it claimed it was going to be by now it's not even funny, and CCP has a triple A game behind it's belt, and is making certainly a good amount of money from it CONSTANTLY. GTA V isn't supported in the way EVE is, it only has cash cards to bring in monthly income (and not a lot of people get cash cards). EvE and it's Plex system is an entirely different story however. And to think that a company with such a successful monopoly lets Shanghai bring Dust into complete ruin from the first start makes me completely confused. Replying to the part you edited in: Why would GTA need support like EVE when Rockstar makes plenty of money from the many games they make every year. You got to realize Rockstars only game isnt gta. They have many different franchises that make plenty of money while CCP has two games one of which most likely makes little to no profit. EvE makes plenty of profit. Plex, Plex, Plex, and more Plex.
One game making a profit doesn't mean they can go dump a bunch of it into a game that makes little to no money. You do know EVE still makes expansions and stuff right? If they started putting a bunch of money into this game they would have to cut down on EVEs budget which I can bet you that is not something the executives want to do. |
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