DUST Search - You know, I've always considered women to be people.

Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:

Physically;
Women are about 55% weaker than men in the upper body, and on average men are 10% to 15% larger and 30% stronger than women. *

Women have certain advantages related to dust; they hear better than men. If they are using a good surround-sound headset/speakers, it may be nigh-impossible to sneak up on them on the battlefield. **

Women and men have strengths and weaknesses that complement each other when working together, imo. Women are amazing at remembering and knowing people, while men are great at distance, depth perception and 3-dimensional imagination.

There is a lot more out there, but although we may have different specilizations, women and men are all human, and share many core strengths, such as teamwork, socialization, grasping concepts and ideas, imagination, deft handwork, and room for compassion/ treachery.

People are people, and except for physical strength, most people can do anything anyone else can do with training.

*Men are 10-15% larger than women. And 30% physically stronger, especially on the upper body.
**We hear differently. Women are more sensitive to sound than men, and when women begin to lose their hearing, they lose it more gradually across all wavelengths, while men are more likely to lose it from the high or low tones of the hearing range.

Read more: http://www.blisstree.com/2007/02/22/mental-health-well-being/5-physical-differences-between-women-and-men/


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TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2014.02.17 23:34:00 - [1] - Quote George Stroumboulopoulos: There's one thing that's interesting about your books. I noticed that you write women really well and really different. Where does that come from? George R.R. Martin: You know, I've always considered women to be people. This is a reoccurring thing that I see not just in Dust but in any online game I've played, why are women treated like the weaker sex? I myself, treat everyone the same, if you are a nice or goof around i'll do the same. If you are a jerk to me I will be the same, with the exception of children, whom I pull punches with for they are not adults. I will take verbal jabs with anyone that takes shots at me. This general attitude seems to get me in trouble across many games when it comes to verbal jabs thrown at me by one of the female persuasion. I'll break it down like this: Someone says something rude and inflammatory to me. I respond back in kind. Scenario A. If it was a male: Argument starts that either ends in us getting over it or us holding grudges. Scenario B. If it was a female: Argument starts that either ends in us getting over it or us holding grudges. Scenario C. If it was a female: Heaven all mighty! The ladies feint from the audacity and all the men request that we duel with pistols at 10 paces! When I ask why from the women, they simply call me a sexist. When I ask why from the men they invariably say, "Dude, she's a girl." Because, I guess that's not sexist...? When I ask my wife she says, "The women that act in this way just like the attention and don't like it when you won't let them have their way." Don't misconstrue that I say that all women act like this as I have met plenty of women online that fall into Scenario B. I just never see scenario C. occur with a male. IE. He's too weak to handle the checks that his mouth writes off! I only mean to say that as an anecdote of my own experience, it's a baffling phenomenon. This is of course amongst adults, children are different. I thought this was the 21st Century. The "Dude, she's a girl." attitude doesn't surprise me as it is the stereotype that men will treat women as weaker, but why are some women supporting this behavior? Is this not where the gender inequality came from that sparked the need for the feminist movement? My theory is essentially it plays out in this sense: Girl Gamers The pink shirted girl essentially being Scenario C. and the blue sweat shirt girl being Scenario B. What is Dusts thoughts on this?
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 62	Posted - 2014.02.19 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Physically; Women are about 55% weaker than men in the upper body, and on average men are 10% to 15% larger and 30% stronger than women. * Women have certain advantages related to dust; they hear better than men. If they are using a good surround-sound headset/speakers, it may be nigh-impossible to sneak up on them on the battlefield. ** Women and men have strengths and weaknesses that complement each other when working together, imo. Women are amazing at remembering and knowing people, while men are great at distance, depth perception and 3-dimensional imagination. There is a lot more out there, but although we may have different specilizations, women and men are all human, and share many core strengths, such as teamwork, socialization, grasping concepts and ideas, imagination, deft handwork, and room for compassion/ treachery. People are people, and except for physical strength, most people can do anything anyone else can do with training. Men are 10-15% larger than women. And 30% physically stronger, especially on the upper body. *We hear differently. Women are more sensitive to sound than men, and when women begin to lose their hearing, they lose it more gradually across all wavelengths, while men are more likely to lose it from the high or low tones of the hearing range. Read more: http://www.blisstree.com/2007/02/22/mental-health-well-being/5-physical-differences-between-women-and-men/ Although, I will not question any of that as I agree that you can find specific differences based on basic biology, however as in these examples you could do the same with genetics and upbringing. There are far more deciding factors that can determine any given male's physical "prowess" vs. a woman's physical "prowess". Likewise the same could be said of the hearing statistics, it depends on the individuals genetics and upbringing. A Man who is careful with their hearing will be able to hear better than a woman who stands in front of Amps at rock concerts or vice versa. More than anything, societal expectations and gender roles are what plays more of a factor as to an individuals role in the social strata of society then biological pre disposition, although gender roles likely did start from pre disposition. If it were more common for women to engage in heavy lifting then men in society for example, then women would statistically show generally higher marks in strength when sociologists take random surveys and publish them. Remember studies can reveal statistics that can have many interpretations, this is why when psychologists and sociologists make generalizations based on data, they often have opponents. Think the work of Sigmund Freud, which is a popular poster boy in psychology for drawing conclusions beyond your data. An anecdote although certainly not evidence that I am "right" just for consideration: I used to work in a metal container plant where metals were fashioned into all sort of containers from popcorn tins, oil cans, to ammunition boxes. It was common practice that the men were assigned heavy lifting duties. That said, I saw plenty of men who had arms as thin as twigs who struggled with such tasks while I also knew women with the arms the size of tree trunks that had no problems lifting some of the heavier equipment. In my opinion, studies on gender differences show nominal differences based on respective hormone levels combined with social expectations. I think as a society we still have a lot of growing to do. For example, it's not uncommon for people to express that those of African decent are more athletic, because it's perceived as a positive attribute. That said positive racism is still racism, likewise for sexism or any form of generalization of the individual in comparison to a demographic. It's just something we all as humans naturally do, as we don't do well with chaos and invariability and always feel the need to simplify everything, including people.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2014.02.19 01:56:00 - [3] - Quote Otavio Martins wrote: so there are girl gamers.... i thought those where creepy middle aged man. well, living and learning. That, in my opinion, is a prime example of gender roles in recreational endeavors at work. There was a time where if a woman showed interests in sports, she was a "Tom Boy" and would risk making herself unsuitable for marriage and become an "Old Maid". Likewise, there was a time when video games were seen as a fringe activity reserved to intelligent introverts lacking social awareness or "Nerds." Society tends to dictate trends, and in more recent years as video games have become more accepted in society as a whole, it has also become more acceptable that women can in fact enjoy video games as likewise some of those "Tom Boys" enjoy perceived "Manly" sports like that of American Football or Rugby. I am of the opinion that, in reality, the gender of an individual is inconsequential to their personal preferences. For example, we see men who enjoy "Cross-Dressing" which is termed as such because men wearing "feminine" clothing like ballroom gowns, is considered outside of the "norm" or societal standards. In the same vein, women have seen resistance to them entering the work force outside of necessity, like a World War, as women have in the past been seen as homemakers and not employees. Sadly in the "Western World", in my opinion and in some part not entirely, the disproportionate increase in goods and services to wages in countries like the United States of America, has been a part of the departure of homemakers and the more modern approach of two employees with self sufficient children (see popular child rearing books like Baby-Wise.) There are studies that would suggest such early sufficiency may be correlated with sociopathic tendencies, otherwise known as the Caldari /joke. This is in no way the fault of women as it is simply a mechanic of Capitalism. If the worker is willing to work at a cut rate, then it will occur. This is where the hostility to immigrant workers and the forming of trade Unions/Guilds occurs from, but I digress. We are constantly evolving as individuals and as societies for better or worse.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2014.02.19 08:16:00 - [4] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I myself am an equal opportunist. I will kill both genders equally and without hesitation. The only thing that makes me angry is when people, usually males, scold me for not giving females special treatment. Granted that in many physical feats women are inferior, while in many they are far superior than men. Though I refuse to accept that sex is a limiting factor in intelligence. As such my belief system is a double edged sword; I will not limit you, but neither will you have my sympathy. >Granted that in many physical feats women are inferior while in many they are far superior than men. This is of course is the problem statement. You could mean that women have a higher pain threshold based on child birth, which would be sexist or you could mean that women are debilitated by proteins when they have pku disease where males are not, because of the lack of a y chromosome, which would be just because of the genetic difference. In essence, it all depends on whether what you believe is based on something a man or a woman can do exclusively based on sex, or what you infer based on something that a male or female can do. A woman can be stronger than a man just as a man can be stronger than a woman. A man can likewise have a higher pain threshold than a woman or vice versa. Men and women both have lived through terrible pains like disembowelment and likewise not every woman has lived through the pain of child birth.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2014.02.19 09:12:00 - [5] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: interviewer> "how are we going to get rid of racism?" Morgan Freeman> "Stop talking about it." I'm not sure what you mean by this quote. I made this post because I see sexism talked about on a regular basis. I believe I haven't actually been in a squad with a mix of men and women where at some point someone didn't make a sweeping generalization of the other sex. It is very much a part of the public discourse, especially on the internet, at least from my observations and time spent for years upon the internet among various forums, websites, online games, chat rooms, etc. If I had the power to control the mouths of everyone I would. Personally, although only Morgan Freeman could confirm such a thing, I believe he meant don't differentiate between races not don't literally "talk" about it. And that's my point, don't differentiate and considering more than half the responders to the thread thus far did differentiate, it would seem it was a valid point of conversation.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2014.02.19 10:18:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Well, you certainly managed to make demons out of shadows, didn't you? Anyhow, you completely mistook that sentence. I simply meant that Men have certain physical traits and abilities that are superior to Women, while Women also have superior physical traits and abilities superior to Men. Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. It's hard not to if you don't even give an example of what you mean, which I did and explained. If you read the post you quoted, I explained the differences that is all. I fully acknowledged in that post that you quoted that you were vague and I explained the difference between sexism and traits tied to sex, pku disease for example as a discriminatory reality in biology. Please read what you quote.
TYCHUS MAXWELL Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 69	Posted - 2014.02.20 00:01:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Well, you certainly managed to make demons out of shadows, didn't you? Anyhow, you completely mistook that sentence. I simply meant that Men have certain physical traits and abilities that are superior to Women, while Women also have superior physical traits and abilities superior to Men. Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. It's hard not to if you don't even give an example of what you mean, which I did and explained. If you read the post you quoted, I explained the differences that is all. I fully acknowledged in that post that you quoted that you were vague and I explained the difference between sexism and traits tied to sex, pku disease for example as a discriminatory reality in biology. Please read what you quote. I did read it, that's why I quoted you. It's just you nit picked and went on a tangent from a fairly minor irrelevancy. Well from how vague you continue to be, I will simply assume you either are agreeing with me and don't feel like typing and think it's edgy to type one sentence that serves no purpose or we have different definitions of sexism. Sexism: prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex. -definition pulled from dictionary. Sexism: prejudice or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex. - Your definition? I can't tell based on your combative ambiguity. "You are putting words in my mouth!" All I did was stereotype that men and women have inferior and superior qualities... don't put words in my mouth! If you would explain in greater detail then one sentence or go on a paragraph tirade about mountains and mole hill analogies that serve no point it would be easier to understand you.