DUST Search - The Logi nerf hammer is going to fix the big bad Slayer problem....

THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

What nerf hammer?

We're losing 5 hp/s, true.

But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO.

All the equipment nerfs a big nerf, but the real nerf comes in the form of uber scouts and heavies, making the assaults and logis chew toys.

The callogi has needed its 40 CPU back since they took it away, its ret@rded (It forces you to run a complex cpu upgrade, which takes away a slot, meaning it really is a 5 high, 3 low, 3 equipment suit, UNLESS you run ALL armor plates to save CPU to have a balance, so it ENCOURAGES hybrid tanking with little equipment-ret@rded), but CCP isn't gonna fix it cus the don't fix nerfs for a year unless 40billion threads pop up about it.

caldari assaults need a real buff though, theyll still be garbage in 1.8 from the useless bonuses, compared to anything else.

Minmatar heavies & caldari assaults are numbers wise the worst 1.8 suits, but the minmatar logi isnt far behind.

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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 267	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:17:00 - [1] - Quote Ummmm ya, so can we Cal Logis now have our 40 cpu back making us the same as other Logis since when that was taken away, we will have had 2 rebalancings, 2 buffs to armor, shield penalties added, and now our repper taken away, which will mean another slot for a repper? Oh and we also use the most cpu bc of our 5 high slots. This nerf happened back when the Logi Slayer problem was focused on only the Cal, now that all Logis are getting a second nerf hammer can we be made flush again?
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1702	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:32:00 - [2] - Quote What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 268	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:35:00 - [3] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. Eh its just that we had that taken from us 40 cpu at proto plus our shield extender bonus and that was supposed to fix the issue, now here we are again, we are losing a built in complex repper and still down our 40 cpu, I think they dont realize how bad this will affect fits and their wont be much in the way of real logis after this, especially if we get a respec.
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 51	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:39:00 - [4] - Quote You have 4 low slots for a reason. why not just use a cpu upgrade?
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 270	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:42:00 - [5] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: You have 4 low slots for a reason. why not just use a cpu upgrade? I do, all Cal Logis do, we have to, that my point, even with a complex one I still run out, pg upgrade too btw.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 976	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:43:00 - [6] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. All the equipment nerfs a big nerf, but the real nerf comes in the form of uber scouts and heavies, making the assaults and logis chew toys. The callogi has needed its 40 CPU back since they took it away, its ret@rded (It forces you to run a complex cpu upgrade, which takes away a slot, meaning it really is a 5 high, 3 low, 3 equipment suit, UNLESS you run ALL armor plates to save CPU to have a balance, so it ENCOURAGES hybrid tanking with little equipment-ret@rded), but CCP isn't gonna fix it cus the don't fix nerfs for a year unless 40billion threads pop up about it. caldari assaults need a real buff though, theyll still be garbage in 1.8 from the useless bonuses, compared to anything else. Minmatar heavies & caldari assaults are numbers wise the worst 1.8 suits, but the minmatar logi isnt far behind. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 270	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:43:00 - [7] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: You have 4 low slots for a reason. why not just use a cpu upgrade? And its not really even the point, the point is we had it and we lost it bc of bitching, and bitching is leading to another nerf so give me back my shiiiit.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 665	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:43:00 - [8] - Quote shield extenders cost too much IMO, read my thread and comment to fix it Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 421	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:47:00 - [9] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. Nerfed how? 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 271	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:50:00 - [10] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. Nerfed how? 40 cpu removed, maybe you werent here, shield extender bonus removed, shields nerfed, now built in reps are going away.

Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 411	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:51:00 - [11] - Quote Lol well well here we are IDIC. Told ya so? Lol j/k. I really do hope they balance the logi role to be able to 1. Reinforce the team, the equip bonuses should help this cause. 2. Provide the resources to be defensive, such as an increase to base HP, and possibly reps/regen rates that are in line with racial parity. I think one possibility out there is a reduction in slots but keeping the high base cpu/pg. allowing you to run proto equip/mostly proto mods depending on slots. Honestly though I'm waiting to see the patch notes as everyth+«ng is speculation until we get those. Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 422	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:52:00 - [12] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: NK Scout wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. Nerfed how? 40 cpu removed, maybe you werent here, shield extender bonus removed, shields nerfed, now built in reps are going away. I mean galogi, I quoted the galogi nerf, damm 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 271	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:53:00 - [13] - Quote NK Scout wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: NK Scout wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. Nerfed how? 40 cpu removed, maybe you werent here, shield extender bonus removed, shields nerfed, now built in reps are going away. I mean galogi, I quoted the galogi nerf, damm Well they are armor based and losing a built in complex armor repper...... My bad.....
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 271	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:55:00 - [14] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: Lol well well here we are IDIC. Told ya so? Lol j/k. I really do hope they balance the logi role to be able to 1. Reinforce the team, the equip bonuses should help this cause. 2. Provide the resources to be defensive, such as an increase to base HP, and possibly reps/regen rates that are in line with racial parity. I think one possibility out there is a reduction in slots but keeping the high base cpu/pg. allowing you to run proto equip/mostly proto mods depending on slots. Honestly though I'm waiting to see the patch notes as everyth+«ng is speculation until we get those. Hey they cant nerf my thumbs, Ill not leave Caldari, but I might trade my logi in for the scout.
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 52	Posted - 2014.02.18 00:46:00 - [15] - Quote If logis are getting reduction on pg and cpu of equipment, are you gonna still need that 40 cpu? Probably not.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3024	Posted - 2014.02.18 00:59:00 - [16] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: You have 4 low slots for a reason. why not just use a cpu upgrade? I do, all Cal Logis do, we have to, that my point, even with a complex one I still run out, pg upgrade too btw. What on earth are you trying to run then? With my Fitting tool, I can get 620 CPU on my Cal Logi (with a single CPU upgrade) With that, I can run this: 502 shields (33.8 regen/s) 206 armor 4x Complex Shields 1x Complex Energizer Proto RR M1 Locus CPU Upgrade 2x Complex Regulators (2.76s delay) 1x Basic Armor This leaves you with 157 CPU and 35 PG for equipment. Due to the 1.8 fitting skill reduction, this actually becomes 196.25 CPU and 43.75 PG to use for 3 equipment. That's 65 CPU per equipment and 14.58 PG per equipment. You can run an Ishukone Nanohive, an Allotek (R) Hive, and a Wyrokomi Nanite and still have 50 CPU and almost 9 PG left over. How is that not more than enough!?! Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 603	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:07:00 - [17] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What nerf hammer? We're losing 5 hp/s, true. But you're gaining heaps of bonus fitting. GalLogi is the only one getting nerfed, and that's more because of the scanner big fix, IMO. All the equipment nerfs a big nerf, but the real nerf comes in the form of uber scouts and heavies, making the assaults and logis chew toys. The callogi has needed its 40 CPU back since they took it away, its ret@rded (It forces you to run a complex cpu upgrade, which takes away a slot, meaning it really is a 5 high, 3 low, 3 equipment suit, UNLESS you run ALL armor plates to save CPU to have a balance, so it ENCOURAGES hybrid tanking with little equipment-ret@rded), but CCP isn't gonna fix it cus the don't fix nerfs for a year unless 40billion threads pop up about it. caldari assaults need a real buff though, theyll still be garbage in 1.8 from the useless bonuses, compared to anything else. Minmatar heavies & caldari assaults are numbers wise the worst 1.8 suits, but the minmatar logi isnt far behind. Not that I run it often, but my proto minm logi has to run a cpu and a PG upgrade, Really hoping the fittings bonus frees up one of those slots for a repper. Otherwise I am even squishier then before by a wide margin. Though while initially resistant to the repper bonus I've grown to like the rep tool very much so I'll stay minm even with a re-spec. CCP your matchmaking is better but still sucks a fair amount Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 255	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:10:00 - [18] - Quote Yeah, I've been running Callogi for sometime now. The lack of that extra cpu is indeed frustrating, and will be even more so now without our passive armor reps. Depending on new suit stats, this person will most likely be migrating out of it if there's even more cpu/pg/slot nerfs and swapping to another racial suit type. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 224	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:13:00 - [19] - Quote It's a shame about the shield extender penalty. Canceled plans to go into Caldari logi because of that. No point in 4 regs if they'll just add a penalty to recharge delay.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2333	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:21:00 - [20] - Quote Cal Logis will still be able to fit 4 compact hives and continue to slay. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2613	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:23:00 - [21] - Quote Those ******* dumb Racial Bonuses on Assaults will be what coerces more Medium Frames to go SlayerLogi. Calling it now: Cal & Gall Assaults will be the unicorns of 1.8 They will be outnumbered by their Commando counterparts by at least 5:1. I'd even go so far as to say that I'll see a Minmatar Pilot suit in-game before I see another Gallente Assault. I GÖú Kittens.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 255	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:26:00 - [22] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Cal Logis will still be able to fit 4 compact hives and continue to slay. Are we gaining an extra equipment slot? lol We only have three currently. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2333	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:28:00 - [23] - Quote LEHON Xeon wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Cal Logis will still be able to fit 4 compact hives and continue to slay. Are we gaining an extra equipment slot? lol We only have three currently. My bad. Still, most CalLogi Slayers still run all compact hives. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 255	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:29:00 - [24] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Those ***** dumb Racial Bonuses on Assaults will be what coerces more Medium Frames to go SlayerLogi. Calling it now: Cal & Gall Assaults will be the unicorns of 1.8 They will be outnumbered by their Commando counterparts by at least 5:1. I'd even go so far as to say that I'll see a Minmatar Pilot suit in-game before I see another Gallente Assault. I can see that as well. I currently run both Cal logi and assault suits. Probably won't be using either in the next patch because of the ** bonuses. If there's even further cpu/pg nerf or a slot adjustment, can forget that entirely. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Soldiersaint BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 726	Posted - 2014.02.18 01:32:00 - [25] - Quote Min logi ftw. i finally get to be the healer I have always dreamed of. no one will die on my watch!


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