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Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3705	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:49:00 - [1] - Quote Why exactly does an armor based suit (amarr) have a better deplete delay than a shield favoring suit (Minmatar)? Minmatar Sentinel: 6 second deplete Amarr Sentinel: 5 second deplete Minmatar Commando: 10 Second deplete Amarr Commando: 8 Second deplete The Moods is confused. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1171	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:52:00 - [2] - Quote Did you forget? This is CCP we're talking about.
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 591	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:53:00 - [3] - Quote is the non depleted delay better for minmatar? if so then i guess CCP doesnt want minmatar to stick around long enough to lose shields. Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3705	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:54:00 - [4] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: is the non depleted delay better for minmatar? if so then i guess CCP doesnt want minmatar to stick around long enough to lose shields. The minmatar has a 1 second non-deplete delay advantage over the amarr. Not exactly much of a difference. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 757	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:55:00 - [5] - Quote I think the idea is that the Amarr suit should be better at tanking in every way, since it's slower. Not saying I agree, but I think that's the idea.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4737	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:56:00 - [6] - Quote Why? Because CCP. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3705	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:56:00 - [7] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: I think the idea is that the Amarr suit should be better at tanking in every way, since it's slower. Not saying I agree, but I think that's the idea. Well tanking and regen are a bit different. Minmatar are supposed to be hit and run. It's more like hit and die horribly. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Brolaire of Asstoria Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:56:00 - [8] - Quote I would've been confused if the suits made sense... I hear voices all the time... I just ignore them and keep on killing...
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3705	Posted - 2014.02.17 18:58:00 - [9] - Quote Brolaire of Asstoria wrote: I would've been confused if the suits made sense... Fair point. I guess non-sense is common sense with balance around here. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1991	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:02:00 - [10] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: is the non depleted delay better for minmatar? if so then i guess CCP doesnt want minmatar to stick around long enough to lose shields. The minmatar has a 1 second non-deplete delay advantage over the amarr. Not exactly much of a difference. Min Sentinel recharge delay: 4 Amarr Sentinel recharge delay: 5 Min Commando: 6 Amarr Commando: 7 Well there is you explanation, Minmatar are penalised for dipping into armour more than the amarr. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.

Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3707	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:04:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: is the non depleted delay better for minmatar? if so then i guess CCP doesnt want minmatar to stick around long enough to lose shields. The minmatar has a 1 second non-deplete delay advantage over the amarr. Not exactly much of a difference. Min Sentinel recharge delay: 4 Amarr Sentinel recharge delay: 5 Min Commando: 6 Amarr Commando: 7 Well there is you explanation, Minmatar are penalised for dipping into armour more than the amarr. Yet it still doesn't make sense. That's like saying the amarr get negative armor repair rate because they dipped into armor. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2502	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:06:00 - [12] - Quote The Minmatar suits will rely heavily on boxes, girders, and corners for defense. DonGÇÖt forget the Minmatar suit is the fastest Sentinel suit and the Amarr is the slowest. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 199	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:07:00 - [13] - Quote Isn't it the same for Med Frames too? Doesn't the Min Assault have something like an 18hp/s Recharge? Corp: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance Aim Assist = Persuers
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3707	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:08:00 - [14] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Isn't it the same for Med Frames too? Doesn't the Min Assault have something like an 18hp/s Recharge? Yeah. Min assault has 18 hp/s with a 10 second deplete delay. Doesn't make any sense. Hit and run needs good regen especially when you have much less health than everyone else. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3148	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:10:00 - [15] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: is the non depleted delay better for minmatar? if so then i guess CCP doesnt want minmatar to stick around long enough to lose shields. The minmatar has a 1 second non-deplete delay advantage over the amarr. Not exactly much of a difference. Min Sentinel recharge delay: 4 Amarr Sentinel recharge delay: 5 Min Commando: 6 Amarr Commando: 7 Kinda redundant. What kind of dual-tanked heavy bails before their shields are gone? No.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1255	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:10:00 - [16] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Why exactly does an armor based suit (amarr) have a better deplete delay than a shield favoring suit (Minmatar)? Minmatar Sentinel: 6 second deplete Amarr Sentinel: 5 second deplete Minmatar Commando: 10 Second deplete Amarr Commando: 8 Second deplete The Moods is confused. these are only the initial permutations.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1992	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:11:00 - [17] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: is the non depleted delay better for minmatar? if so then i guess CCP doesnt want minmatar to stick around long enough to lose shields. The minmatar has a 1 second non-deplete delay advantage over the amarr. Not exactly much of a difference. Min Sentinel recharge delay: 4 Amarr Sentinel recharge delay: 5 Min Commando: 6 Amarr Commando: 7 Well there is you explanation, Minmatar are penalised for dipping into armour more than the amarr. Yet it still doesn't make sense. That's like saying the amarr get negative armor repair rate because they dipped into armor. Then why doesn't the caldari have a giant deplete delay? Because Caldari are full shield tankers, not like minmatar who are Dual-Tankers During a 1v1 fight a Caldari only relies on shields, if you get him down to armour, he is pretty much dead. If you get a minamtar down to armour he will still have reps on that, therefore he doesn't require the delay to be short. Spkr4thedead: Me > AV This is why tanks are unbalanced Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3707	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:17:00 - [18] - Quote I get the idea behind WHY it is this way but it still really doesn't make much sense. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4615	Posted - 2014.02.17 21:52:00 - [19] - Quote i'm telling you they hate minmatar the MD buff hasn't fooled me! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 913	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:06:00 - [20] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Why exactly does an armor based suit (amarr) have a better deplete delay than a shield favoring suit (Minmatar)? Minmatar Sentinel: 6 second deplete Amarr Sentinel: 5 second deplete Minmatar Commando: 10 Second deplete Amarr Commando: 8 Second deplete The Moods is confused. OMG HE'S GETTING MOODY!!!!!!! *Assassination is my thing.*

CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 696	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:38:00 - [21] - Quote I just wish CCP would stick to the more conventional lore when it came to the races in DUST. The longer the game continues to progress, the more they seem to get off track. I understand certain things can't be exactly like they are in EVE but sometimes the spirit of what was shown in EVE seems to be missing.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7199	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:44:00 - [22] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Why exactly does an armor based suit (amarr) have a better deplete delay than a shield favoring suit (Minmatar)? Minmatar Sentinel: 6 second deplete Amarr Sentinel: 5 second deplete Minmatar Commando: 10 Second deplete Amarr Commando: 8 Second deplete The Moods is confused. Did you actually affectionately refer to yourself in third person? "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1603	Posted - 2014.02.17 22:49:00 - [23] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Why exactly does an armor based suit (amarr) have a better deplete delay than a shield favoring suit (Minmatar)? Minmatar Sentinel: 6 second deplete Amarr Sentinel: 5 second deplete Minmatar Commando: 10 Second deplete Amarr Commando: 8 Second deplete The Moods is confused. didn't you know CCP hates minmatar? 90% of minmatar weapons in the game have been nerfed directly. and all the minmatar suits pale in comparison to the other races. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça


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