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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:12:00 -
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Static points are great...but...what if they moved? Lets say you are hacking a point and an enemy throws a RE on it,and detonated... What if...objectives could take damage?Going offline while it slowly repaired...causing another previously dormant objective to come online to cover for it? Since it's electronic fluxes would do damage too. Lets also say there were between 5-30 (randomised) dormant objectives per map,and they activated seemingly at random when an active one was disabled.... I think redlining wouldn't be so easy anymore.And maps would feel fresh and new again.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
243
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Posted - 2014.02.17 01:14:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Static points are great...but...what if they moved? Lets say you are hacking a point and an enemy throws a RE on it,and detonated... What if...objectives could take damage?Going offline while it slowly repaired...causing another previously dormant objective to come online to cover for it? Since it's electronic fluxes would do damage too. Lets also say there were between 5-30 (randomised) dormant objectives per map,and they activated seemingly at random when an active one was disabled.... I think redlining wouldn't be so easy anymore.And maps would feel fresh and new again.
I like where this is going
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.02.17 01:23:00 -
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A very good Idea, it could make for some very dynamic games. I was thinking about having a mode with mobile Null Canons, that could be piloted by players, but that may be more problematic than your idea.
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Jax Saurian
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
162
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Posted - 2014.02.17 06:19:00 -
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This intrigues me
but a few things
what if on a map there is three null cannons active at any one time And by pure luck the three null cannons that are ready to hack are one the attacking side that creates an uneven playing field for the defending team
or what if one team purposefully destroys the null cannons till the ones near their side are the only active ones
and let's not forget that the null cannons are spaced far apart and having 30 of them would require a extremely large map and each null cannon needs an outpost and as we all know CCP said that they can't put too much in here 1 large socket and 2 mediums is the most they can manage at the moment
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
346
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:44:00 -
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Jax Saurian wrote:This intrigues me
but a few things
1.what if on a map there is three null cannons active at any one time And by pure luck the three null cannons that are ready to hack are one the attacking side that creates an uneven playing field for the defending team
2.or what if one team purposefully destroys the null cannons till the ones near their side are the only active ones
3a.and let's not forget that the null cannons are spaced far apart and having 30 of them would require a extremely large map and 3b. each null cannon needs an outpost and as we all know CCP said that they can't put too much in here 3c.1 large socket and 2 mediums is 3d.the most they can manage at the moment 1.The beginning hack points would stay the same,as these would be the default cannons active. 2.The cannons would be layered (one side,middle,second side) where no more than 2 cannons can be active per layer,and by that point the initial damage dealt to the starting cannons would be repaired. (by slowly repaired i meant 15-25 seconds,AKA travel time between the cannons) 3a.I said 5-30 it doesn't have to automatically be the highest number,it could just be 1 extra cannon per letter in skirmish,or as low as 2-3 extra cannons in domination or make it just like skirmish except only one cannon active at a time cycling through them randomly. 3b.A surface that is under used is the tops of buildings...and underneath them... 3c.To be honest i don't know about sockets unless they are the electric kind. 3d.Plus no one said this has to be done right now or even over night.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
9294
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:50:00 -
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I like it
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
748
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Posted - 2014.02.17 21:14:00 -
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IDK about the null cannons physically moving....the rest is....quite awesome!
I can see a team being redlined but a few mercs manage to break out and get into position. A SL calls in an OB and takes out there own home point in order to prevent the enemy from spawning there. A new point becomes active and the group that escaped immediately hacks it. The whole team is now free from the redline and is able to quickly attack any point they want while the enemy struggles to catch up.
OR
A scout ninja hacks a point and then sets up RE's in hidden areas safe from fluxes. If the point is hacked by the enemy the scout can detonate the RE's leaving the point useless and effectively altering the flow of battle.
Question
Will rep tools and/or Rep hives effect the repair rate of these cannons?
Scout Tactician
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
347
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Posted - 2014.02.17 22:24:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:IDK about the null cannons physically moving....the rest is....quite awesome!
I can see a team being redlined but a few mercs manage to break out and get into position. A SL calls in an OB and takes out there own home point in order to prevent the enemy from spawning there. A new point becomes active and the group that escaped immediately hacks it. The whole team is now free from the redline and is able to quickly attack any point they want while the enemy struggles to catch up.
OR
A scout ninja hacks a point and then sets up RE's in hidden areas safe from fluxes. If the point is hacked by the enemy the scout can detonate the RE's leaving the point useless and effectively altering the flow of battle.
Question
Will rep tools and/or Rep hives effect the repair rate of these cannons? They wouldn't actually move,the hack letter itself would transfer to another cannon when the current assigned cannon is disabled. Tools?yes,it would repair just like a normal installation Hives? no,hives can't repair installations The cannon when fully repaired would become dormant until it is cycled through again.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
9441
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Posted - 2014.02.20 08:13:00 -
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I still like it
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
9616
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:58:00 -
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killertojo42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
25
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:04:00 -
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Now would you be able to destroy dormant null cannons?
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
414
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:51:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Now would you be able to destroy dormant null cannons? No,while in a dormant state their shields become hardened and regen at 1500hp/s. When they become active power is diverted from shield defenses to the main terminal and becomes offensive. Still retaining some level of regen while in offensive mode,yet not as high as defensive mode.
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
298
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:13:00 -
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Here is what I think
There should be multiple different locations that could be used for all objectives.....( the hack point should be put in random spots around where they already are) Im going to use the bridge map as an example since everyone will know what I'm talking about... The hack point for the null cannon could be across the bridge right next to the cannon or under the bridge.....
The hack points should take damage not the cannon Kinda like putting in the virus then destroying the console so nobody can stop the upload
Tactically this would play a big factor and make it feel like you are actually performing a task instead of just holding o
I would also like to see destructable walls and roadblocks like in mag ....or make certain inanimate objects have the ability to be destroyed..... I'm going to use the bridge map as an example again....the crates along the bridge could be given HP values(rather high mind you) and moved(by the devs not players) to prevent vehicle movement.....unless the vehicles destroy them which would take time and make the tanks vounerable.....or a player could place a demolition charge(I guess make it an equipment that takes time to arm and detonate and can be disarmed) that will destroy it..... These crates could also be repaired (for minimal wp to prevent farming)... once destroyed they will disappear( a neat idea is the remnants stay there and if repaired to full armor will make the crate reappear)
Thoughts?
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killertojo42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
25
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:20:00 -
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Challenge accepted
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:31:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:Here is what I think
1.There should be multiple different locations that could be used for all objectives.....( the hack point should be put in random spots around where they already are) Im going to use the bridge map as an example since everyone will know what I'm talking about... The hack point for the null cannon could be across the bridge right next to the cannon or under the bridge.....
2.The hack points should take damage not the cannon Kinda like putting in the virus then destroying the console so nobody can stop the upload
3.Tactically this would play a big factor and make it feel like you are actually performing a task instead of just holding o
4.I would also like to see destructable walls and roadblocks like in mag ....or make certain inanimate objects have the ability to be destroyed..... I'm going to use the bridge map as an example again....the crates along the bridge could be given HP values(rather high mind you) and moved(by the devs not players) to prevent vehicle movement.....unless the vehicles destroy them which would take time and make the tanks vounerable.....or a player could place a demolition charge(I guess make it an equipment that takes time to arm and detonate and can be disarmed) that will destroy it..... These crates could also be repaired (for minimal wp to prevent farming)... once destroyed they will disappear( a neat idea is the remnants stay there and if repaired to full armor will make the crate reappear)
5.Thoughts? 1.This wouldn't help that much vs pubstomping squads,to get an advantage over pubstompers the new locations shouldn't be within shooting distance/line of sight of the last one.
2.That is what i've been saying this whole thread,being disabled would require a "reboot" AKA repair.
3.loltactics in a game where you die in 2 shots? no
4.Great idea.
5.I could really go for some salisbury steak right about now.
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Time wounds all heels.
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:42:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Challenge accepted Good luck,but i must warn you... Your actions would only slow its repair,not prevent it.
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Time wounds all heels.
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killertojo42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
25
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Posted - 2014.02.26 18:55:00 -
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Depends, flux grenades, REs and a missile tank or two, a squad could possibly pull it off
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
67
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:12:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Static points are great...but...what if they moved? Lets say you are hacking a point and an enemy throws a RE on it,and detonated... What if...objectives could take damage?Going offline while it slowly repaired...causing another previously dormant objective to come online to cover for it? Since it's electronic fluxes would do damage too. Lets also say there were between 5-30 (randomised) dormant objectives per map,and they activated seemingly at random when an active one was disabled.... I think redlining wouldn't be so easy anymore.And maps would feel fresh and new again.
I think it's an interesting idea, a good idea for another match format (along with our current dom, skirm, and ambush).
However, my guess is that it would exasperate redlining, since the objectives would move around. If the redliner can't hit a target by an objective from his current perch, he might be able to if that target is moved, say, 100m to his left and 25m further away.
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killertojo42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
25
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:27:00 -
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Here we go with red lining again, just ugh, CCP i blame you
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
414
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:41:00 -
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killertojo42 wrote:Depends, flux grenades, REs and a missile tank or two, a squad could possibly pull it off What i'm meaning is even if its armor/shields get to 0,no weapon we mercs have or ever will have access to will 100% destroy it. It will be impossible to destroy,but not to delay.
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killertojo42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
25
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:55:00 -
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I know what you meant, cause a reset and long timed repair
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
193
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Posted - 2014.02.26 20:10:00 -
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Team covers dormant objective.
Has tank shell active objective.
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
414
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Posted - 2014.02.26 20:13:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:1.Team covers dormant objective.
2.Has tank shell active objective.
3.Then other team does the same. 1.Snipers and ADS get easy kills.
2.REs and Forgeguns galore.
3.See 1 and 2.
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killertojo42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
25
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Posted - 2014.02.26 20:20:00 -
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Well this mode seems to be a proto, well any missile tanker's dream
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
10608
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Posted - 2014.04.24 05:17:00 -
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I still like it
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SOGZ PANDA
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 07:40:00 -
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Tbh I like this idea alot
Another thought, what if we started on a blank map and needed to take and hold sections on the map to call in null cannons and defend them?
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