DUST Search - Where's the kill cam?

Ripcord19981 wrote:

Bazookah Tooth wrote:

Oxskull Duncarino wrote:

Bazookah Tooth wrote:

Lol all of you say 'no it ruins games, go back to COD'

But all those games are doing so much better then dust.

If they put a kill cam all your answers would be 'adapt or die'

Smh bunch of pawns

I was polite in my last reply, but feck that now. I'm with TunRa now. If you think that COD has any similarities to Dust beyond the FPS aspect, you've obviously no concept of this game. Idiot.

You do realize more then one game has kill cam?

I prefer being called a far cry 3 scrub thanks. Moron.

why do you keep going? The whole community hates ya and the idea is obviously dead, isn't it time to let this thread die?

Also, please no killcams. Although it sounds cool, it would ruin the game for many people with playstyle that are effected by the killcam. Im a scout and a medium suit user. I usually flank get some kills get out. If the killcam is put, my scout a** would be fried cuz there would be a squad waiting for me all cause i killed a guy with a shotgun because he was dumb enough to stand still.

The point is, this will jeopardize a lot of suits' roles.

"I believe it's a sin not to rule the world if you've been blessed with the strength!" Justice

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Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 327	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:06:00 - [31] - Quote Bazookah Tooth wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: No kill cam, but would like remote view of what your scouts are seeing.. Hopefully this will be possible with the X Bone or PSFour. That would be really cool. Could be implemented like accessing a turret. Snipers could call out positions. Nice You can do this already, its called: knowing the map and using voice coms. oh wait., you didn't know that? sigh. CEO of SAM-MIK...sometimes. (shhh don't tell anyone, they'll start asking questions)
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 420	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:10:00 - [32] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Bazookah Tooth wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: No kill cam, but would like remote view of what your scouts are seeing.. Hopefully this will be possible with the X Bone or PSFour. That would be really cool. Could be implemented like accessing a turret. Snipers could call out positions. Nice You can do this already, its called: knowing the map and using voice coms. oh wait., you didn't know that? sigh. There is no remote view for scouts. What you are talking about is called teamwork. Same concept different way. Wth. Someone mentioned the toxic waste that is the dust community. I get it now. "I believe it's a sin not to rule the world if you've been blessed with the strength!" Justice HMG for life
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 941	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:10:00 - [33] - Quote I recall reading a response to a kill cam thread months ago that was put quite eloquently. To paraphrase: "kill cams give away valuable tactical information that wasn't earned." Best PvE idea ever!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 685	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:11:00 - [34] - Quote I can feel your frustration about the random AI turret getting you but once you have been playing awhile you will know which one it is and why you did get killed. I don't like the idea of a killcam. I remember people back in the day would say that relaying info once you are dead was considered cheating. Now we give kill cams for that stuff. Ah times change eh.
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 420	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:14:00 - [35] - Quote End result. I see why kill cam is bad. Did not know there was a railgun installation aimed at the box of A under the tabletop from the redline. Now obviously I do. "I believe it's a sin not to rule the world if you've been blessed with the strength!" Justice HMG for life
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 327	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:16:00 - [36] - Quote Bazookah Tooth wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Bazookah Tooth wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: No kill cam, but would like remote view of what your scouts are seeing.. Hopefully this will be possible with the X Bone or PSFour. That would be really cool. Could be implemented like accessing a turret. Snipers could call out positions. Nice You can do this already, its called: knowing the map and using voice coms. oh wait., you didn't know that? sigh. There is no remote view for scouts. What you are talking about is called teamwork. Same concept different way. Wth. Someone mentioned the toxic waste that is the dust community. I get it now. It was a sarcastic slap in the face you ignorant, illogical twit. The toxic waste of this community is the little mouth breathers like you that bring up 'done and over' issues without ever searching the forums. The Vets of this community have had these ideas for years, put them forth, discussed them much, and more often than not, have been rejected. All you do with your kill-cam or remote-video feed requests is stir an angry hornets nest, and then wonder why you're getting stung. Search function, use it. Also, stop having bad ideas CEO of SAM-MIK...sometimes. (shhh don't tell anyone, they'll start asking questions)
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1608	Posted - 2014.02.18 13:59:00 - [37] - Quote Bazookah Tooth wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: No kill cam, but would like remote view of what your scouts are seeing.. Hopefully this will be possible with the X Bone or PSFour. That would be really cool. Could be implemented like accessing a turret. Snipers could call out positions. Nice Cool idea - would love if the MMC commanders could get a camfeed from their scouts. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1608	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:02:00 - [38] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Bazookah Tooth wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: No kill cam, but would like remote view of what your scouts are seeing.. Hopefully this will be possible with the X Bone or PSFour. That would be really cool. Could be implemented like accessing a turret. Snipers could call out positions. Nice You can do this already, its called: knowing the map and using voice coms. oh wait., you didn't know that? sigh. True, but voice is a slow information aquisition and processing channel. I'm imacining the MMC Commander looking at four virtual terminals with feed fron his four scouts. I support SP rollover.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 445	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:04:00 - [39] - Quote disappointed Nothing to see here folks, carry on with your existence. I will show you fear in a handful of dust. 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6877	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:19:00 - [40] - Quote Bazookah Tooth wrote: End result. I see why kill cam is bad. Did not know there was a railgun installation aimed at the box of A under the tabletop from the redline. Now obviously I do. As you can clearly see, no one here likes the kill cam. This has been brought up countless times throughout the past two years since closed beta. And every time someone brought it up, the idea gets shot down like a dropship being swatted by a redline rail tank. Reason: We feel that kill cams take away the need for situational awareness, they provide too much free Intel to the enemy, and it punishes any effort to find a nice spot to shoot from. It's not fair for anyone and it rewards the victim for being an idiot. Now let's move on and forget this dreaded idea. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1755	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:24:00 - [41] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I recall reading a response to a kill cam thread months ago that was put quite eloquently. To paraphrase: "kill cams give away valuable tactical information that wasn't earned." Pretty much this ^ (Hecarim's monkey takes second place though lol) Killcams defeat the purpose of trying to flank or set up an overwatch or anything that requires tactical thinking, think of it this way at the moment you get annoyed because people kill you and you don't know where from, with a kill cam envision the following. You spend a little time and thought working into an overwatch position to guard an objective you see an enemy and you kill them. Enemy respawns 10 seconds later and snipes you because he knows exactly where you are. Or you are a shotgun scout relying on stealth you see an enemy you jump out and kill them with a killcam that enemy not only knows roughly where you were he knows exactly what you were doing and where for a few seconds before you killed them. Hell I am not even a fan of the distance reading on the death screen if you use that and the hit locator figuring out where the sniper who got you is hiding is incredibly easy. Killcams would destroy team work as well imagine your holding an objective with your squad a guy runs in like a headless chicken and gets killed, the guy who had no tactical awareness whatsoever can now what you saw leading up to his death including placement of any uplinks/hives/remotes you could see and it would give away what suit and weapons the rest of your guys were using without even needing contact with them. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3152	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:27:00 - [42] - Quote It was left in CoD. No.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 194	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:28:00 - [43] - Quote Bazookah Tooth wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Bazookah Tooth wrote: [quote=NextDark Knight]No kill cam, but would like remote view of what your scouts are seeing.. Hopefully this will be possible with the X Bone or PSFour. Troll hard... There is no remote view for scouts. What you are talking about is called teamwork. Same concept different way. Wth. Someone mentioned the toxic waste that is the dust community. I get it now. Don't feed the trolls. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven 88	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:38:00 - [44] - Quote Nah man. That could make it more humiliating when you die. I'm sure mr.musturd would've made me cry a puddle of tears as many times as hes knifed my back. :( What a great friendly thing to do... Shame on you musturd.. :/ You don't know my life! You don't know how many nanites to put in my cereal!
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 455	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:59:00 - [45] - Quote Bazookah Tooth wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Bazookah Tooth wrote: Lol all of you say 'no it ruins games, go back to COD' But all those games are doing so much better then dust. If they put a kill cam all your answers would be 'adapt or die' Smh bunch of pawns I was polite in my last reply, but feck that now. I'm with TunRa now. If you think that COD has any similarities to Dust beyond the FPS aspect, you've obviously no concept of this game. Idiot. You do realize more then one game has kill cam? I prefer being called a far cry 3 scrub thanks. Moron. why do you keep going? The whole community hates ya and the idea is obviously dead, isn't it time to let this thread die? Also, please no killcams. Although it sounds cool, it would ruin the game for many people with playstyle that are effected by the killcam. Im a scout and a medium suit user. I usually flank get some kills get out. If the killcam is put, my scout a** would be fried cuz there would be a squad waiting for me all cause i killed a guy with a shotgun because he was dumb enough to stand still. The point is, this will jeopardize a lot of suits' roles. I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 967	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:03:00 - [46] - Quote It just occurred to me of a way to do kill cams. I have no idea if this would be practical from a hardware perspective. The game would save the kill cam footage from the killer's perspective that could be e-mailed as a killmail. It would be a way to implement killmails in DUST so that you could share the footage with corpmates, taunt a victim, etc. perhaps you may only be able to save a maximum of 10 kills to limit system requirements. At the end-of-match screen you could review kills, save them to your bank, send them to the victim, post in allaiance chat, etc. Now that would be a badass way to implement kill cams, that wouldn't affect the current game by giving away positions and such, and the decision to share is in the hands of the KILLER, not the victim (a key point). I expect this would take some effort to implement and there is a ton of much more important work to be done. This could be an amazing feature one day though. Best PvE idea ever!
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 420	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:42:00 - [47] - Quote Killcams would be a way to show off corporation symbols, amount of money spent on the suit that killed you. It could clear up the issue of who is and isn't wearing militia gear (although I know you can tell now). Great for taunting and other things. BF4 has a great kill cam thing going on, and its not easy to tell where the enemy is just from a freeze frame. The thread won't die and someone will be inclined to talk about kill cam again because it would be fun and interesting to have. Edit: Also the matches are huge for 16v16 so killcam would really make it feel smaller. Pictures of people mcc sniping or glitching could be more easily captured for people who don't have recording capabilities. Theres more to this then revealing sniping positions. (Shouldn't snipers keep moving anyways?) "I believe it's a sin not to rule the world if you've been blessed with the strength!" Justice HMG for life
Bazookah Tooth NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 420	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:58:00 - [48] - Quote Ripcord19981 wrote: Bazookah Tooth wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Bazookah Tooth wrote: Lol all of you say 'no it ruins games, go back to COD' But all those games are doing so much better then dust. If they put a kill cam all your answers would be 'adapt or die' Smh bunch of pawns I was polite in my last reply, but feck that now. I'm with TunRa now. If you think that COD has any similarities to Dust beyond the FPS aspect, you've obviously no concept of this game. Idiot. You do realize more then one game has kill cam? I prefer being called a far cry 3 scrub thanks. Moron. why do you keep going? The whole community hates ya and the idea is obviously dead, isn't it time to let this thread die? Also, please no killcams. Although it sounds cool, it would ruin the game for many people with playstyle that are effected by the killcam. Im a scout and a medium suit user. I usually flank get some kills get out. If the killcam is put, my scout a** would be fried cuz there would be a squad waiting for me all cause i killed a guy with a shotgun because he was dumb enough to stand still. The point is, this will jeopardize a lot of suits' roles. Avoiding the troll part... I use a scout sometimes as well. Kill cam does not give away your position until you kill someone. Ok. So you killed a guy and his team is around him. He says "hey scout killed me, shotgun, nearby" because your a scout and just because u killed him doesn't mean your still there. This is equivalent to your shotgun appearing in the kill feed. Also as a scout you should be able to identify where the rest of the team is before you engaged that guy. Lastly, you get to stick in his face you spent 20k to kill his 60k suit. Kill cam is a freeze frame of where you were killed from not a live feed of your current location. "I believe it's a sin not to rule the world if you've been blessed with the strength!" Justice HMG for life


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