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CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 372	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:31:00 - [1] - Quote 1+2+4+1+4+1+1+3+3+3+2+3= 28 (divide by total amount of numbers, 12) 28++12= 2.3 Average amount of PG across all modules @ basic level = 2.3 (repeating) Round to 2.5 Mean/Average Basic Kin Cat PG: 10 10++2.5= 4 which turns into 4x's the cost of the Mean PG of ALL basic tier modules that consume PG, which is insane COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Youtube, A Merc with a passion
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1083	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:35:00 - [2] - Quote you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others
CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 372	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:38:00 - [3] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least And yes, I left out kin cats because they would effect the data and provide an inaccurate result COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Youtube, A Merc with a passion
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1083	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:38:00 - [4] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least i assure you that you are mistaken stam/ mele, and kin kats all use PG, none of wich are included in your average
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1120	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:39:00 - [5] - Quote They are also the most helpful out of the colored bottles. I agree, though, that their cost is outrageous. Along with their cloak footing reduction, scouts should also have a reduction to kincats. (Not really. I'm just going with the flow. They should be lowered for everyone) Also 1% per level? Really? 1%? REALLY?! Isn't it bad enough we need biotics 5?
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 634	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:43:00 - [6] - Quote i personally think that the kin cat skill should give a 5% reduction to PG usage per level Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Tectonic Fusion 1056	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:43:00 - [7] - Quote Joel II X wrote: They are also the most helpful out of the colored bottles. I agree, though, that their cost is outrageous. Along with their cloak footing reduction, scouts should also have a reduction to kincats. (Not really. I'm just going with the flow. They should be lowered for everyone) Also 1% per level? Really? 1%? REALLY?! Isn't it bad enough we need biotics 5? It should be 5% because it's not really worth getting besides you having a little more speed, which isn't viable ATM. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 372	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:44:00 - [8] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least i assure you that you are mistaken stam/ mele, and kin kats all use PG, none of wich are included in your average Nope, Feel free to check my results. I've double checked myself and made sure that there accurate more or less (give or take 1) COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Youtube, A Merc with a passion
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1083	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:47:00 - [9] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least i assure you that you are mistaken stam/ mele, and kin kats all use PG, none of wich are included in your average Nope, Feel free to check my results. I've double checked myself and made sure that there accurate more or less (give or take 1) seems your math is fine, you left out kin kats though but thats not really an issue since your measuring the average of all other modules... my bad
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2537	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:49:00 - [10] - Quote When they reduced the efficacy they should've reduced the fitting requirements. Their fitting consumption no longer equates with their output efficiency. Back when they were really good, it was totally worth it. And, if you're not running at least an Enhanced Cardiac Regulator, you're doing it all wrong. I GÖú Kittens.

CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 372	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:51:00 - [11] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least i assure you that you are mistaken stam/ mele, and kin kats all use PG, none of wich are included in your average Nope, Feel free to check my results. I've double checked myself and made sure that there accurate more or less (give or take 1) seems your math is fine, you left out kin kats though but thats not really an issue since your measuring the average of all other modules... my bad Happens COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Youtube, A Merc with a passion
CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 372	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:53:00 - [12] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: When they reduced the efficacy they should've reduced the fitting requirements. Their fitting consumption no longer equates with their output efficiency. Back when they were really good, it was totally worth it. And, if you're not running at least an Enhanced Cardiac Regulator, you're doing it all wrong. You need at least 2 Complex Kin cats to get +1m/s and by then you've gimped you're fit, and if you want Armour you've basically countered the already extremely small bonus for you're speed modules, its not worth it COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Youtube, A Merc with a passion
Toby Flenderson research lab 263	Posted - 2014.02.16 06:53:00 - [13] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least And yes, I left out kin cats because they would effect the data and provide an inaccurate result When you want to compare a member of a set of a data to the mean value across the data, you need to include that value in the calculation of the mean. For example: When you want to compare your test score against the class average to see where you stand, you don't take the average of all other classmates and compare your score to that average. You need to first take the average of the entire class and then compare yours to that average.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 310	Posted - 2014.02.16 07:43:00 - [14] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least And yes, I left out kin cats because they would effect the data and provide an inaccurate result When you want to compare a member of a set of a data to the mean value across the data, you need to include that value in the calculation of the mean. For example: When you want to compare your test score against the class average to see where you stand, you don't take the average of all other classmates and compare your score to that average. You need to first take the average of the entire class and then compare yours to that average. FFs give it a break. We al know what his point is. +1 to the OP War never changes
Toby Flenderson research lab 265	Posted - 2014.02.16 08:06:00 - [15] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: you forgot a bunch of modules for that average... like the basic kin kat for example or dampeners range extenders range amps stamina mods myrofybril stims... probably a few others None of those use PG at basic level at least And yes, I left out kin cats because they would effect the data and provide an inaccurate result When you want to compare a member of a set of a data to the mean value across the data, you need to include that value in the calculation of the mean. For example: When you want to compare your test score against the class average to see where you stand, you don't take the average of all other classmates and compare your score to that average. You need to first take the average of the entire class and then compare yours to that average. FFs give it a break. We al know what his point is. +1 to the OP Well, if he's going to make an inaccurate comparison and then go on to further defend it as accurate, he's going to get called out. Especially if he didn't bother including any other biotic upgrades, assuming Ghost is correct. Relax.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 310	Posted - 2014.02.16 13:44:00 - [16] - Quote Sometimes it happens that a mean value gives a skewed picture of the situation as a whole, even if it is mathematically correct. This can be done since, for example, a very large or a very small value in comparison with the other values in the set of values may be able to influence average significantly, which then becomes misleading. In such situations, it is sometimes useful to be able to enter the median. The median is the value that falls exactly in the middle of a set of values which have been sorted in order of magnitude. So I believe in the the case of the Kincats they give a skewed picture to the normal formula and hense it's better to use the median formula when you have a flawed value that offsets the end results. Ps my English sux but I work as a mathematician =ƒÿë War never changes


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