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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4047
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:33:00 -
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Which do you think is better?
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
Top Men.
757
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:35:00 -
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In terms of general use, Md.
In terms of overall potential destruction, Plasma cannon.
Laser is just a glorified AR.
Under 28db
'That's about as scary as Deviljho riding a Jhen Mohran.'
Said 1.8 Assault to the Commando.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4693
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:38:00 -
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Is there a Caldari weapon that isn't completely terrible....Nope.
I think the Laser is the best out of all of them. Its not terrible. It just has **** range. |
Tectonic Fusion
1055
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:43:00 -
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The MD is viable if the opponent is a noob.
The Laser Rifle is viable if the opponent doesn't have a Rail RIfle.
The Plasma Cannon is viable...as a sidearm?
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
680
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:44:00 -
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MD for explosions, Plasma for explosions.
Psycho
Explosives are my thing, and knives
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
796
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:46:00 -
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I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
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Adelia Lafayette
Science For Death
668
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:46:00 -
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my laser rifle alt is sitting in the merc quarters stroking its laser rifle muttering "soonTM"
Assault dropship gets blown up....
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"...
..."I'm back"
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4048
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:47:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:The MD is viable if the opponent is a noob.
The Laser Rifle is viable if the opponent doesn't have a Rail RIfle.
The Plasma Cannon is viable...as a sidearm?
I've ran the plasma cannon as my main weapon for a good deal of 1.6
I am your scan error.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2220
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:53:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:The MD is viable if the opponent is a noob.
The Laser Rifle is viable if the opponent doesn't have a Rail RIfle.
The Plasma Cannon is viable...as a sidearm? I've ran the plasma cannon as my main weapon for a good deal of 1.6
I used it as my main for 1.5-1.6
1.7 is just... Rail Rifles man. Their mere introduction was a nerf to Plasma Cannons.
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Gallente Neutron Rifle
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
708
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Posted - 2014.02.16 00:54:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:The MD is viable if the opponent is a noob.
The Laser Rifle is viable if the opponent doesn't have a Rail RIfle.
The Plasma Cannon is viable...as a sidearm? I've ran the plasma cannon as my main weapon for a good deal of 1.6
you fool
Who wants some?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4048
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Posted - 2014.02.16 01:02:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:The MD is viable if the opponent is a noob.
The Laser Rifle is viable if the opponent doesn't have a Rail RIfle.
The Plasma Cannon is viable...as a sidearm? I've ran the plasma cannon as my main weapon for a good deal of 1.6 you fool
You say that, yet I OHKed people all the time.
I am your scan error.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7098
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:01:00 -
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LASER RIFLE!
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2537
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:05:00 -
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The PLC produces the most satisfying kills.
Win.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3155
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:05:00 -
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Mass Driver
Drive Masser
Drass Miver
Miss Draver....
I have now named my mass driver Ms. Draver.
(I Enjoy Difficulty); GB-9 Breach AR, EK-AR Breach Mass Driver, GK-13 and Allotek Burst AR
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:09:00 -
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LR is my weapon of choice if I am doing any assaulting unless it is close quarters.
PLC for AV and I just skilled into MD yesterday so I haven't got the feel for them yet.
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
Raoul Duke
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2745
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:12:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Laser is just a glorified AR.
What the hell have you been smoking?
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
4642
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:15:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Which do you think is better?
As per 1.7, the MD wins by a lot.
The LR function which is to melt enemies away at longer ranges gets outranged AND outdamage in its optimal.
IT cannot be used in any other ''specific'' way there by is useless.
You can just equip a STD RR and do x10 better than a Viziam LR.
Needed Buff: LARGE Range increase. Enough to OUTRANGE rifles and Outdamage them in its optimal.
The PC is too Skill intensive and specialized. Its one shot + relatively LOW reload speed makes it very hard to use.
Except vs scouts , you cant really kill anyone with SPLASH DAMAGE,after the first shot you will be killed while reloading.
(Im not considering Height advantage or better positioning, which give an overall advantage to ALL weapons)
Overall; you can only get a kill vs infantry if you connect a DIRECT HIT, which is pretty hard for most players, plus the weapon is very hard to understand since its very unique in lots of aspects.
Low reload speed and overall low range makes it almost useless vs vehicles, specially tanks who can resist MULTIPLE PROTOTYPE PC rounds, even without Hardeners on,and even at MLT level.
Needed Buff: Splash damage AREA. Reload speed buff. Increased Direct damage buff,maybe a BONUS vs vehicles.
The Mass driver on the other hand, while still Underpowered, has its uses. ME being a heavy Sidearm user ( My Main Light weapons are SCR and BRCH AR,but while not using them....) the MD makes an extremely powerful ''Secondary weapon''.
Combinations like SCR Pistol + MD can make short of pretty much anything.Also is a VERY powerful weapon while running in a SQUAD. With a chance to AVOID being the only target the MD becomes very powerful, hitting multiple enemies at once and weakening/killing enemies even while in cover.
AT prototype level with proficiency, it can 2-3 shot Most Medium frames and 1-2 shot any scout, this talking about SPLASH damage only.
Still needs Buff, but i really cant think of a way to buff it without making it OP again,except maybe, removing AA OR making AA apply to the MD making it a little more easy to connect direct hits.
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2745
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Still needs Buff, but i really cant think of a way to buff it without making it OP again,except maybe, removing AA OR making AA apply to the MD making it a little more easy to connect direct hits.
I think a nice buff to the MD would be to remove the stupid spinning of the magazine to reduced the reload speed. Im sure people would complain about it being removed as someone people might be attached to that animation for some reason.
Like it would makes sense to keep that animation if there was a GÇ£Russian RulletGÇ¥ eskGÇÖ shell in there that did extra damage, but theres not....
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Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
383
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:27:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Which do you think is better?
PLC, its fun I've even had a 20-0 with only PLC!
Favorite gear: Duct-tape and Butter knives
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2745
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:29:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Which do you think is better?
"Laser Rifle vs Mass Driver vs Plasma Cannon"
CCP Logi bro said that the Swarm Launcher should also be classed with these weapon systems as they are all GÇ£supportGÇ¥ orientated. Image brining back the dumb firing swarm launchers LOL
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
4644
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:34:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Which do you think is better? PLC, its fun I've even had a 20-0 with only PLC!
Extreme Player Skill or Good weapon chemistry should not be considered when taking about a weapon.
You are just gifted with the thing, that does not make the weapon ok.
Im a pretty decent player myself with good gungame and i cannot connect more than 5 PC shells per game...
And this is from a guy profile dampened....
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1370
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:35:00 -
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Right now my money is,on the laser, I need to use my plc more but it's CPU intensity screws with my commando.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2014.02.16 02:52:00 -
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exo md all day. prof 4
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
485
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:04:00 -
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Most hilarious unintentional troll-thread ever. |
negative49er
Profits Of Mayhem
505
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:13:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Is there a Caldari weapon that isn't completely terrible....Nope.
I think the Laser is the best out of all of them. Its not terrible. It just has **** range.
swarm launchers
Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4274
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:31:00 -
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Plama Cannon.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:51:00 -
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LR
I am actually skilling up. Amarr assault I am even thinking of switching sides I have grown fond of lazors. SR SP and LR way more fun to use.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2223
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Posted - 2014.02.16 10:11:00 -
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echo47 wrote:LR
I am actually skilling up. Amarr assault I am even thinking of switching sides I have grown fond of lazors. SR SP and LR way more fun to use.
Amarr Weapons = Best Weapons
Minmatar Dakka Dakka is cool, don't get me wrong, but Golden Laser guns are hard to beat.
They are also statistically the best guns in the game, they just get some sort of downside you have to work around, to use them to their full potential.
Amarr Weapons = Skill Weapons.
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Gallente Neutron Rifle
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
2328
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:39:00 -
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I went 18/1 with a mass driver the other day. Pretty sure that's the best of the 3.
Mass Driver and Laser Rifle are both supportive, situational weapons...but they both still need a buff, and that's coming in 1.8
Plasma Cannon just isn't practical as a main killing force unless you are heavily skilled into it.
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dzizur
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2014.02.16 13:00:00 -
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I'd say PLC, but i never specced in MD, which could prove usefull in some situations (like that underground supply depot which is always a chokepoint).
PLC is nice when you have a partner that can shoot while you're reloading and vice versa in some tight areas. It's also useful when you place 3 RE on a tank and it goes low armor and tries to run away, you can't throw an AV nade, while it's possible to finish the job with PLC.
As for the laser, I used it few times on std level, but I'm not sure if i even scored a kill with it.
Is it possible to take down tank/ds shields with a laser? |
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