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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 2970
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 18:03:00 -
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 When are harsher punishments going to be put in place for stupid actions?
 
 Griefing should be allowed, yes, but there should be actual consequences for that action which deter it and allow people to counter-grief. Currently there are none and as a result you have everybody running around in MLT gear shooting their team mates for the lolz because they can't do anything about it other than wreck their standings by shooting back.
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Fatal Absolution
 
 9493
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 18:04:00 -
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 Himiko Kuronaga wrote:When are harsher punishments going to be put in place for stupid actions?
 
 Himiko, surely you know better than to bother asking?
 
 SoonTM.
 
 ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven | 
      
      
        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 3116
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 18:23:00 -
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 Welcome to new Eden.
 
 In my defence I only TK when I see someone I can directly blame the current match's loss on.
 
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        |  Ryme Intrinseca
 Fatal Absolution
 
 710
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.15 18:28:00 -
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 TKing+random blueberries=utterly broken game mode. Not sure there's anything CCP can do about it, short of turning off FF. I certainly won't be anywhere near it til that happens (i.e., probably never).
 
 EDIT - Actually, if they brought in item transfers, I might play FW on an alt after I cap on my main.
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 2976
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.16 13:04:00 -
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 Ryme Intrinseca wrote:TKing+random blueberries=utterly broken game mode. Not sure there's anything CCP can do about it, short of turning off FF. I certainly won't be anywhere near it til that happens (i.e., probably never).
 EDIT - Actually, if they brought in item transfers, I might play FW on an alt after I cap on my main.
 
 
 Fine people for the amount of friendly ISK they destroy.
 
 If they don't have a certain amount of isk, they cannot enter FW.
 
 Problem solved.
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        |  Joseph Ridgeson
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 556
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.16 13:22:00 -
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 Chunky Munkey wrote:Welcome to new Eden.
 In my defence I only TK when I see someone I can directly blame the current match's loss on.
 
 "Ugh, this guy TK'd me and we lost the match. Screw it, I'm just gonna troll."
 That is just continuing the cycle. Get angry, punch someone, they get angry, punch someone, continue ad nauseam.
 
 Anyway, here's a few suggestions:
 1. Must have 100,000 WP to enter Factional Warfare. This stops the throw-away accounts that are used to troll people with shotguns and nano-inectors.
 2. Show amount of team kills someone did that match. Let the mercenaries who were killed by them report them to the Federation, State, Empire, or Republic. Too many reports and the nation bans the person for an extended period of time. Put simply, you would need a CCP member to look through all the reports and see if any name continue to pop up. It works from a Lore perspective: why the heck would the Caldari State want continue to employ Eye-ma Trollolol if they are a terrible soldier?
 3. A page from Riot's book: The Tribunal. Let the community decide. Again, this still works within the Lore standings. We are elite mercenaries, we don't want to work that are unprofessional.
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        |  CYRAX SERVIUS
 Death Firm.
 Canis Eliminatus Operatives
 
 894
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.16 13:28:00 -
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 FW is a joke right now guys. It is nothing more than most people putting in time to get loyalty store gear and a few jackoffs griefing others.
 
 Haven't had a truly competitive game in weeks.
 
 CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~ | 
      
      
        |  Broonfondle Majikthies
 Dogs of War Gaming
 Zero-Day
 
 848
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.16 13:34:00 -
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 Had a guy yesterday in Min FW.
 He shot me in the back (don't care)
 Lobbed grenades in random corners trying to kill me (still didn't care)
 Then wiped out an innocent teammate defending a point. (not a squad mate)
 
 That was the last straw so I took him out. Try to grief me all you want but you take out a team mate in cold blood and it will cost you.
 
 On the whole I like the dynamic. The world is a harsh place
 
 GÇ£Take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder and sieve it through the finest sieve and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. and yet... and yet you act as if there is some ideal order in the world, as if there is some... some rightness in the universe by which it may be judged.GÇ¥
 
 "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear" | 
      
      
        |  The Attorney General
 
 1971
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.16 13:34:00 -
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 As long as you can get kicked for FF damage when the enemy hacks a vehicle, FW will be broken.
 
 
 
 Mr. Hybrid Vayu. | 
      
      
        |  John Demonsbane
 Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
 League of Infamy
 
 1997
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.16 13:41:00 -
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 Minimum WP to enter FW should have been done from the get go. Team deploy too.
 
 That fixes like 80% of the problem.
 
 You can probably fix another 10% by fixing the overall mechanics so people on the Amarr/Caldari side don't get so frustrated they go over to the dark side.
 
 "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor! | 
      
      
        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 2982
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.17 13:10:00 -
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 The Attorney General wrote:As long as you can get kicked for FF damage when the enemy hacks a vehicle, FW will be broken. 
 
 
 
 Yup.
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        |  Haerr
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 221
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.17 14:31:00 -
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 If stupid blueberries is getting to you in FW, go to the enemies redline / spawn point and call in a **** ton of Sicas / Somas for them to hack, then find a comfy place to watch as hilarity ensues. Bonus points for putting uplinks in places where the enemies can spawncamp them with the tanks.
 
 @CCP: Is the Cloaking Fields and Profile Dampeners reduction to Scan Profile stacking penalized when added together? | 
      
      
        |  Sleepy Shadow
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 100
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.02.17 15:18:00 -
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 There really should be an SP limit to enter FW. No-one under, for example, 5 million SP should be allowed to enter it. 5 million may be a tad high, but IGÇÖm just pulling that figure out of myGǪ erGǪ mind.
 
 Also, the one shooting REGÇÖs/proxies should get the kill. I love REGÇÖs and proxies, but IGÇÖm too scared to use them in FW. Blueberries can kill themselves, repeatedly if I have left many, to get me kicked from FW. So if you destroy my RE, and youGÇÖre too close to it to die from the blast, it should shows as GÇ£Sleepy Shadow [Remote explosive] Sleepy ShadowGÇ¥ and count as suicide. Likewise, if you shoot my RE and an enemy dies, it should show and reward you, not me.
 
 Team killing more than 5 people, whether youGÇÖre reported or not, should kick you from FW. If people are worried, we can raise that to 5 reported, 10 unreported. I donGÇÖt see any reason why people should be able to kill and revive in a loop.
 
 Being killed by a blue should not count as a death; it does not count as a kill. So if youGÇÖre killed in a loop, you gain no deaths.
 
 ThatGÇÖs just my few ideas how to make the experience a little more endurable. Griefing is and should be allowed but it should require more effort than running after your own team mate and shooting them in the back for lulz. Or repeatedly killing and reviving.
 
 
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