DUST Search - Stop Tank 514 i want dust back

True Adamance wrote:

Zack3000 Smith wrote:

the tank will get you more kills and war points. Its almost like god mode. yes you can kill a tank but it takes more than one person which it should. but that tank should not cost less that an advanced logi suit. even if it is the cheapest tank in the game.

I have no problem with tanks in ambush. but the problem is 5 tanks on one team. the opposing team cant even spawn any tanks after that.If there could be a balance in tank spawn what i mean in that is by only be able to have 1 more tank then the other team that would be great.

I don't necessarily ever mind tanks but I think this player base to too damn lazy to do anything about it.

If you see enemy tanks, call your own tanks, you have 0SP invesetment vehicles which are essentially as potent as STD variants, better yet call in AV, enough people do and a no tank can survive on the map, if you die AVing then you have to consider that that is natural cycle of things and HTFU.

Just because the enemy team has 5 tanks doesn't mean there is nothing you can do.

I'm not going to bother with anecdotal evidence but I reckon I can find a few players who can vouch that I've dealt with and successfully combated multiple enemy HAV by myself.

I'm a scrub apparently....so why can't you all do it?

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VikingCheech iBUN Third Rock From The Sun INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 12	Posted - 2014.02.13 21:32:00 - [1] - Quote just played 5 games all of them the enemy team was stacked with 4-5 tanks and a derpship or 2. i did 4 ambs on 2 different servers and a domination... They are too cheap. make ambush smaller maps with no vehicles to solve the problem and quadruple the price of tanks for the other game modes which would still get spammed. And hire some more game developers CCP that can BALANCE things.
Debacle Nano BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 660	Posted - 2014.02.13 21:34:00 - [2] - Quote I swear, when I hear some people's solutions to the problem I just.... Closed beta anyone?
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 853	Posted - 2014.02.13 21:35:00 - [3] - Quote Or just spawn a Sica of your own? 75k for an all militia gear fit. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
VikingCheech iBUN Third Rock From The Sun INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 16	Posted - 2014.02.14 15:48:00 - [4] - Quote Get rid of the tanks... or give me a full respec so i can spec into them myself. damn the flavours of the month... its like they like having a op thing every month. 2 militia tanks cost the same as my pc suit.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1874	Posted - 2014.02.14 15:51:00 - [5] - Quote start by removing the derp ships with a militia rail. once they are dead you should go after their tanks if it seems impossible setup jihad lav's. once you kill them all they will either switch to their proto stomping suits and beat your ass red or call in more tanks, hopefully for you they call in more tanks and you keep jihad jeeping them for profit and laughs. also this is NK scout isn't it?
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 652	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:06:00 - [6] - Quote VikingCheech iBUN wrote: Get rid of the tanks... or give me a full respec so i can spec into them myself. damn the flavours of the month... its like they like having a op thing every month. 2 militia tanks cost the same as my pc suit. how do you think they keep selling boosters? There will always be something OP to skill into. Who wants some?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2536	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:07:00 - [7] - Quote Stop AR/INFANTRY/SCAN514 i want DUST back Intelligence is OP
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1874	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:10:00 - [8] - Quote btw a quick look at your message history talks about using missle tanks and various other tank related discussion.... sounds like you are a tanker.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 585	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:15:00 - [9] - Quote VikingCheech iBUN wrote: Get rid of the tanks... or give me a full respec so i can spec into them myself. damn the flavours of the month... its like they like having a op thing every month. 2 militia tanks cost the same as my pc suit. Tanks are supposed to be cheaper than a Proto suit. Proto suits are money junkyards. You put money in, and are supposed to be at a loss every time you use them. Cheap tanks discourage the use of proto suits in Public matches. Also, you're trying to use the most broken gamemode in the world: Ambush to try to balance tanks? Get real man... What you need to be looking at is the terrain and spawn generation... If those things were properly fixed tanks wouldn't matter at all. Why do tanks look like that in ambush? Lack of cover, and clustered spawn points. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1874	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:20:00 - [10] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: VikingCheech iBUN wrote: Get rid of the tanks... or give me a full respec so i can spec into them myself. damn the flavours of the month... its like they like having a op thing every month. 2 militia tanks cost the same as my pc suit. Tanks are supposed to be cheaper than a Proto suit. Proto suits are money junkyards. You put money in, and are supposed to be at a loss every time you use them. Cheap tanks discourage the use of proto suits in Public matches. Also, you're trying to use the most broken gamemode in the world: Ambush to try to balance tanks? Get real man... What you need to be looking at is the terrain and spawn generation... If those things were properly fixed tanks wouldn't matter at all. Why do tanks look like that in ambush? Lack of cover, and clustered spawn points. no spawn point change would fix tanks in ambush. tanks are balanced as such that the only counter to tanks currently is more tanks, and due to how long it takes to call in a tank, and how massively obvious it is when you call one in you cannot get the tool in to stop tanks in ambush once they are on the field. thus you have a situation where the first team to call in their tanks usually dominate with them. only way to fix ambush is to not have tanks at all. I'd play it again the other two options is to change how tanks are spawned so you can get them in descretely, or change ambush to how it was in MAG, with red lines and small maps, again npo vehicles were used their either, but it gets the job done. again game is won by kills no objectives.

steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2310	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:29:00 - [11] - Quote Funny i never have this issue if they spam tanks i call in my gunlogi kill them recall carry on. Iv had the same tank for like 15 missions now "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1057	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:31:00 - [12] - Quote Jihad LAV, fun fun fun.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1822	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:34:00 - [13] - Quote VikingCheech iBUN wrote: just played 5 games all of them the enemy team was stacked with 4-5 tanks and a derpship or 2. i did 4 ambs on 2 different servers and a domination... They are too cheap. make ambush smaller maps with no vehicles to solve the problem and quadruple the price of tanks for the other game modes which would still get spammed. And hire some more game developers CCP that can BALANCE things. So you're complaining about team death match. That explains a lot. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2470	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:34:00 - [14] - Quote Spawnbush sucks. Always has. So much broken, so little care to fix it. I GÖú Kittens.
calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1463	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:44:00 - [15] - Quote I agree with you I am sick of Tanks as well. Militia tanks do not take any skill and the fact it is the same players that chase the FOTM that use them show you that scrub players will find whatever they can to pad their stats. There should be maps free of tanks and that would make me very happy. A heavy before 1.8
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1559	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:49:00 - [16] - Quote opens door looking for some good well presented feedback followed by some intelegent conversation........ shakes head and sighs deeply before leaving the room. Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 2100	Posted - 2014.02.14 16:50:00 - [17] - Quote You run ambush all day. What do you expect? Squad up with a tank and enjoy the orbitals you'll be dropping from the additional WP. So about those vehicle locks...
Loki Style Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 03:34:00 - [18] - Quote As much as I love shooting Viking i have to agree here. The tanks are either to powerful or too cheap. They need to be priced like escorts not whores. That way they would not be used to easily.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 366	Posted - 2014.02.15 03:35:00 - [19] - Quote calisk galern wrote: start by removing the derp ships with a militia rail. once they are dead you should go after their tanks if it seems impossible setup jihad lav's. once you kill them all they will either switch to their proto stomping suits and beat your ass red or call in more tanks, hopefully for you they call in more tanks and you keep jihad jeeping them for profit and laughs. also this is NK scout isn't it? No, I hate blaster tanks thouh.... 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2205	Posted - 2014.02.15 04:33:00 - [20] - Quote They should just dont allow dropships and tanks on ambush. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 303	Posted - 2014.02.15 04:54:00 - [21] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: They should just dont allow dropships and tanks on ambush. exactly what I've said a few times in the past, after CCP does this they should make a tank or vehicles only mode to satisfy vehicle users Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 664	Posted - 2014.02.15 05:00:00 - [22] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Funny i never have this issue if they spam tanks i call in my gunlogi kill them recall carry on. Iv had the same tank for like 15 missions now You obviously never encountered a decent tanker. (That would not be this character by the way)
Maniak Madness Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 9	Posted - 2014.02.15 08:05:00 - [23] - Quote VikingCheech iBUN wrote: Get rid of the tanks... or give me a full respec so i can spec into them myself. damn the flavours of the month... its like they like having a op thing every month. 2 militia tanks cost the same as my pc suit. My PC Tank costs more then 2x as much as your pc suit. In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 351	Posted - 2014.02.15 08:07:00 - [24] - Quote OP wrote: WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA That is how I read it.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1634	Posted - 2014.02.15 08:28:00 - [25] - Quote I have a PLC and prox mine fit that begs you to reconsider. They are so fun and easy. Sometimes it is difficult to get in but most times they run and die or just die. For the most part they are free money, get one set of standard and one set of advanced prox mines and you can put 9 out at one time. Almost all LAVs and many HAVs pop the ones that don't pay up not long after. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7070	Posted - 2014.02.15 08:30:00 - [26] - Quote VikingCheech iBUN wrote: just played 5 games all of them the enemy team was stacked with 4-5 tanks and a derpship or 2. i did 4 ambs on 2 different servers and a domination... They are too cheap. make ambush smaller maps with no vehicles to solve the problem and quadruple the price of tanks for the other game modes which would still get spammed. And hire some more game developers CCP that can BALANCE things. You obviously don't really understand economics do you? This is not about game modes. This is not about tanks, or rifles, orbitals... Its about cold hard ISK and who is willing to use it. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Zack3000 Smith Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 08:46:00 - [27] - Quote the tank will get you more kills and war points. Its almost like god mode. yes you can kill a tank but it takes more than one person which it should. but that tank should not cost less that an advanced logi suit. even if it is the cheapest tank in the game. I have no problem with tanks in ambush. but the problem is 5 tanks on one team. the opposing team cant even spawn any tanks after that.If there could be a balance in tank spawn what i mean in that is by only be able to have 1 more tank then the other team that would be great.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7072	Posted - 2014.02.15 08:52:00 - [28] - Quote Zack3000 Smith wrote: the tank will get you more kills and war points. Its almost like god mode. yes you can kill a tank but it takes more than one person which it should. but that tank should not cost less that an advanced logi suit. even if it is the cheapest tank in the game. I have no problem with tanks in ambush. but the problem is 5 tanks on one team. the opposing team cant even spawn any tanks after that.If there could be a balance in tank spawn what i mean in that is by only be able to have 1 more tank then the other team that would be great. I don't necessarily ever mind tanks but I think this player base to too damn lazy to do anything about it. If you see enemy tanks, call your own tanks, you have 0SP invesetment vehicles which are essentially as potent as STD variants, better yet call in AV, enough people do and a no tank can survive on the map, if you die AVing then you have to consider that that is natural cycle of things and HTFU. Just because the enemy team has 5 tanks doesn't mean there is nothing you can do. I'm not going to bother with anecdotal evidence but I reckon I can find a few players who can vouch that I've dealt with and successfully combated multiple enemy HAV by myself. I'm a scrub apparently....so why can't you all do it? "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.02.15 10:06:00 - [29] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Funny i never have this issue if they spam tanks i call in my gunlogi kill them recall carry on. Iv had the same tank for like 15 missions now Not everyone is as good of a tanker as you though
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 271	Posted - 2014.02.15 10:15:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zack3000 Smith wrote: the tank will get you more kills and war points. Its almost like god mode. yes you can kill a tank but it takes more than one person which it should. but that tank should not cost less that an advanced logi suit. even if it is the cheapest tank in the game. I have no problem with tanks in ambush. but the problem is 5 tanks on one team. the opposing team cant even spawn any tanks after that.If there could be a balance in tank spawn what i mean in that is by only be able to have 1 more tank then the other team that would be great. I don't necessarily ever mind tanks but I think this player base to too damn lazy to do anything about it. If you see enemy tanks, call your own tanks, you have 0SP invesetment vehicles which are essentially as potent as STD variants, better yet call in AV, enough people do and a no tank can survive on the map, if you die AVing then you have to consider that that is natural cycle of things and HTFU. Just because the enemy team has 5 tanks doesn't mean there is nothing you can do. I'm not going to bother with anecdotal evidence but I reckon I can find a few players who can vouch that I've dealt with and successfully combated multiple enemy HAV by myself. I'm a scrub apparently....so why can't you all do it? Calling them lazy is a B.S. cop-out. Call them discouraged by the fact that for 65+ days AV has been the equivelent of throwing a rotten banana at a tank. I think people want balance 1 AV > 1 tank > 1 infantry > 1 AV Hey look balance This is how it is now 3 AV > 1 tank >>>>>> 6 infantry > 6 AV See the problem? Of course you don't, and thats why people f---ing hate tankers. You guys think you should be better than everything. No, something has to be better than you.

The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 191	Posted - 2014.02.15 10:21:00 - [31] - Quote da GAND wrote: The dark cloud wrote: They should just dont allow dropships and tanks on ambush. exactly what I've said a few times in the past, after CCP does this they should make a tank or vehicles only mode to satisfy vehicle users I... I would actually skill into vehicles for the first time in any game ever were there a vehicle-only mode. That sounds pretty freakin' awesome.


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