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Katya Thurn
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:36:00 -
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I am thinking to train for Minmatar Logi with Assault Rifle. Is that still considered to be a good choice? Also are the Minmatar Logi dropsuit and Assault rifles going to be changed in the 1.8 and if so what are the changes? |
CaveCav
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
248
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:42:00 -
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All Logi suits are going to have their passive reps swapped with the Gallente bonus, so you lose 5 hp/sec of repair and gain -25% on the CPU/PG cost of equipment. The Minmatar racial bonus is going to change from +25% hacking speed to +50% Repair Tool range and +25% Repair Tool repair rate per level.
The AR is still a good reliable gun but I would suggest that you play a bit with the new CR, extremely effective and cheap to fit.
Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
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Katya Thurn
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:55:00 -
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I have an AR BPO so that was my main reasoning for choosing that weapon. Plus in the logi guide it says the AR is pretty good. I'm not looking for FotM but a weapon that I would probably stick with.
I do have some 'no skill required' CR I think from the email/newsletter giveaways so I could practise with those maybe before I set my choice in stone. If the new bonuses to the Minmatar logi dropsuit are correct that sounds nice and more useful than a hacking bonus.  |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1226
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:07:00 -
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STD CR >> BPO AR
Drop it like its hat.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
1965
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Posted - 2014.02.13 17:34:00 -
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Are you low on ISK? Use the BPO.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.1
Amarr victor!
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CaveCav
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
248
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Posted - 2014.02.13 17:55:00 -
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While the AR still remains a good gun it's biggest drawback at the moment is range, the AR is outranged by the CR, the RR and the SCR
Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
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Thrydwulf Khodan
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.02.13 21:46:00 -
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Katya Thurn wrote:I have an AR BPO so that was my main reasoning for choosing that weapon. Plus in the logi guide it says the AR is pretty good. I'm not looking for FotM but a weapon that I would probably stick with. I do have some 'no skill required' CR I think from the email/newsletter giveaways so I could practise with those maybe before I set my choice in stone. If the new bonuses to the Minmatar logi dropsuit are correct that sounds nice and more useful than a hacking bonus.
Try the weapon out.
The CR may not be your style. (I'm not sure it is my style at all.) Here's what I'll recommend:
Create an Alt.
On the Alt, buy level 1 with RR, CR, AR, Shotgun and MD and SMG
Pick up some Militia Rep tools, and drop a couple Militia armor plates on the 'Freebie suit'
Run around in the baseline freebie militia fit you get, with that Rep tool, and the associated weapons and try the weapons out.
Determine which style you like.
Have you figured out which weapon you like?
(Is it the shotgun? If so, you need to go back and keep working with the weapons to get a better feel for them.)
Run that on your main. |
SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2014.02.14 03:03:00 -
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The CR fits better in the minmatar logi than the AR. I know this from first hand experience. The basic CR is only 1500isk per so it does not hurt to buy 50 or so to put a decent test in.
On the other hand, I highly disapprove of the Alt Accounts as the weapon specs are being buffed and nerfed with every update. the first level of any weapon is cheap so just using passive SP to use that one level is easy.
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Thrydwulf Khodan
DUST University
52
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:45:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:The CR fits better in the minmatar logi than the AR. I know this from first hand experience. The basic CR is only 1500isk per so it does not hurt to buy 50 or so to put a decent test in.
On the other hand, I highly disapprove of the Alt Accounts as the weapon specs are being buffed and nerfed with every update. the first level of any weapon is cheap so just using passive SP to use that one level is easy.
Just My 2cents
The issue is that firing style is completely different. (We're looking at Full v/s Semi-auto at a minimum.)
Players need to feel how a 'weapon responds' and whether it works for any clone soldier is a personal thing. It is all a YMMV. I'm glad you like the CR. I happen to be fond of the Scrambler Rifle and the AR (and occasionally the SMG.) Again, YMMV.
If you don't want to test on an alt, I'm not going to make you. I'm just going to recommend that people remember that they have it as an option. (Otherwise CCP wouldn't let us create 'alt' characters on our PSN account.)
For Logi weapons your choices are really limited to:
AR (Militia)
SMG (Militia)
Shotgun (Militia)
Rail Rifle (No Militia)
Combat Rifle (No Militia)
Laser Rifle (No Militia)
Scrambler Rifle (No Militia)
Mass Driver (No Militia)
Flaylock (Yeah ... not really good as a main weapon.)
You want someone with 500k starting ISK to spend over 63K of it on "testing weapons" on their main character? Along with Skillbook costs and up to 675K ISK in weapons just to test this out? That's silly.
As for the "only 1500 or so ISK" all of your Standard level weapons run that much as well.
Get your BPO 'Medic/Frontline/etc' fits that already has an AR and an SMG. If you pick up a Gallente 'alt' for testing, and some Militia fit armor plates (to slow it down) you can get the feel and be a n00b and decide if you even like this style of play.
Testing and iteration allows you to understand what you enjoy most about the game. Spending SP that you can't get refunded if you 'make a mistake' can be more than painful. It can be completely useless.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
512
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:58:00 -
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As a proto min logi, the CR is my gun. I also have numerous other fits with the SCR, MD and even an RR for when I'm feeling peckish but honestly the RR is pure garbage in my hands. Comparatively, I do better against many others with the CR than any other and the fitting cost is just gravy.
It takes some getting used to as I like burst shots. I like nice controlled fire. Really helps me place my shots and not spray horribly. You might find you hate it. I would give it a try however, because its a great gun all in all.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
256
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:24:00 -
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I play min logi and find the CR to be the best weapon for now. It has low fitting requirements and I find it kills quicker than any other weapon I have tried.
Because, that's why.
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