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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:27:00 -
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anyone else think that commandos with their damage bonus and improved stats are going to trump assault suits?
ive refrained from really speculating too terribly much but withthe game in the state its in commandos are going to have better health AND better damage then assault suits with the extra advantage of using a combo of weapons that alow the user to take advantage of the new damage profiles by carrying a weapon thats good against shields AND one thats good against armor.
this makes commandos just plain better at assaults for everything except movement, and for that we have the new scouts.
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Sgt Buttscratch
lcritMYpantS
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:30:00 -
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The new assault isnt really a title worth contending for. The new slayer logi is where its at
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Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:31:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:The new assault isnt really a title worth contending for. The new slayer logi is where its at
minmatar logis with rep tools are where its at.... all those heavys and commandos running around with brick tanked slayer logis with tonns of armor...
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
1941
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:33:00 -
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That's because the Assault has always been a terrible suit, there is no difference between it and the standard medium suit.
It's a base suit, nothing more.
The Logi will still be better than it
The Commando will hopefully be better than it
The Sentinel will be better than it
The Scout will hopefully be better than it
The Assault is a waste of space, I say replace it with the Crusader or grenadier suits already.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:34:00 -
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Depends on how much they change assault suits
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Jake Bloodworth
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:37:00 -
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Commando suits lack speed, slots, and a small hit box. They will have their place, but they are hardly an assault suit. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:43:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:Commando suits lack speed, slots, and a small hit box. They will have their place, but they are hardly an assault suit.
you dont really need speed when you can just face tank people to death with supirior HP and damage.
most players cant strafe to save their lives anyways so speed and hit box dont really play too much of a role in pubs, and in PC its all about positional advantage if your in a face tank fight without PA then you lose.
the only thing assaults have going for them are granades... wich addmittedly are definatly an advantage but just not enough of an advantage to justify it for your average joe. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:46:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:anyone else think that commandos with their damage bonus and improved stats are going to trump assault suits?
ive refrained from really speculating too terribly much but withthe game in the state its in commandos are going to have better health AND better damage then assault suits with the extra advantage of using a combo of weapons that alow the user to take advantage of the new damage profiles by carrying a weapon thats good against shields AND one thats good against armor.
this makes commandos just plain better at assaults for everything except movement, and for that we have the new scouts.
Commando's will have more eHP and deal more damage, but lack mobility and passive regen.
When it comes to flexibility and the ability to quickly assault multiple objectives on the battlefield, the Assault will do this much better.
For a static, yet flexible defense, Commando's will be the best choice.
Heavies will remain the point defense gods.
This is where 1.8 is heading.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:04:00 -
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Originally when we first heard about this, before anything was on public paper, we had heard "Command" suits. We thought it was going to be a squad commander dropsuit. Something that you could call out objectives and defends and it would give the entire squad more points. Why don't we have stuff like that?
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
2078
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:09:00 -
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Just wait until they release their fitting changes for medium suits. I wouldn't be surprised if slayer-logis are more difficult to run in 1.8.
I think the pattern for assaults should be they would be the best at hitting hard and fast (but then needing to retreat quickly as well). |
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T'orq
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:28:00 -
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Us commandos will finally be feared as we should be
Thanjac-
Proud Commando Member
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1221
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:38:00 -
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Commando = Heavy assault = The role I want to play.
Respec me out of this stupid light assault suit CCP, and I will rain death from the havens!
Drop it like its hat.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:46:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:Commando suits lack speed, slots, and a small hit box. They will have their place, but they are hardly an assault suit. you dont really need speed when you can just face tank people to death with supirior HP and damage. most players cant strafe to save their lives anyways so speed and hit box dont really play too much of a role in pubs, and in PC its all about positional advantage if your in a face tank fight without PA then you lose. the only thing assaults have going for them are granades... wich addmittedly are definatly an advantage but just not enough of an advantage to justify it for your average joe.
I'd recommend waiting till 1.8 before being so sure. We don't know what base stat changes are being made to the mediums. We don't know if speed tanking for mediums will be back. Just because you've 2 light weapons doesn't grant immunity to a fast strafing suit that can have similar hit points. It might just make the commando a heavy assault with the medium being the light assault, both with balanced pros and cons. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:54:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:Commando suits lack speed, slots, and a small hit box. They will have their place, but they are hardly an assault suit. you dont really need speed when you can just face tank people to death with supirior HP and damage. most players cant strafe to save their lives anyways so speed and hit box dont really play too much of a role in pubs, and in PC its all about positional advantage if your in a face tank fight without PA then you lose. the only thing assaults have going for them are granades... wich addmittedly are definatly an advantage but just not enough of an advantage to justify it for your average joe. I'd recommend waiting till 1.8 before being so sure. We don't know what base stat changes are being made to the mediums. We don't know if speed tanking for mediums will be back. Just because you've 2 light weapons doesn't grant immunity to a fast strafing suit that can have similar hit points. It might just make the commando a heavy assault with the medium being the light assault, both with balanced pros and cons.
that actually makes alot of sense, thank you |
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