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cranium79
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:38:00 -
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a bit of trolling here, but hear me out... i bet i know what the FotM for 1.8 will be...
a proto (or any really) Cal heavy with 2X complex damage mods, kinetic catalyzer, and... dum dum dum...... 2 majestic (sp) SMGs... with almost as much damage as a duvalle, less cpu and pg requirements, high ROF, and the heavy's high ehp, one can almost make it as fast as a well armored assault suit without needing to add the armor or shields, but you still could.
sure, it would cost a ton of ISK, but if you got hundreds of millions of ISK to burn... not a problem.
the majestic in general will be FotM, but i figured the Cal heavy will be a nice addition for those who were really looking to **** everyone off  .
just my opinion.
personally, i intend on keeping my assault suit and AR. until the nerfs and buffs stabilize... there's no point. |
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
925
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:44:00 -
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I really do have a bad feeling about Cal heavies, as far as dropships are concerned. High/Fast regenning shields, another -25% to explosive damage, 4 highs for damage mods, and fitting forges. Basically bringing back pre-1.7 forges, which is not a good thing, they're perfectly balanced now, imo. I'm hoping for a nerf/change to damage mods, but we'll see.
ADS Kills: Lost count a while ago...
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
1930
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:46:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I really do have a bad feeling about Cal heavies, as far as dropships are concerned. High/Fast regenning shields, another -25% to explosive damage, 4 highs for damage mods, and fitting forges. Basically bringing back pre-1.7 forges, which is not a good thing, they're perfectly balanced now, imo. I'm hoping for a nerf/change to damage mods, but we'll see.
Forges balanced? Heh heh heh
Tanks 514
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Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1220
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:48:00 -
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Caldari commando with RR and swarms.
Drop it like its hat.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4592
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:50:00 -
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Yep. FoTM Caldari sounds just about right.
CCP has yet to release anything made by the Caldari that wasn't OP as **** right off the bat.
Meanwhile Amarr and Gallente get the Nerf bat before they even get the chance. Why are they so careful with Amarr/Gallente weapons yet so careless with Caldari and Minmitar ones. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
3993
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:01:00 -
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I'm sure I can handle fighting caldari sentinels (Cloaked gallente scout with a shotgun and flux nades)
However, the rest of the community will be too stupid to be able to kill them, so they'll probably be the FOTM.
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:01:00 -
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I bet anyone 100m isk that right off the bat people are going to be calling heavies OP because their nerfed weapons with nerfed damage mods and nerfed proficiency skills aren't tearing through resisted 1200 HP in less than 2 seconds anymore.
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:05:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I really do have a bad feeling about Cal heavies, as far as dropships are concerned. High/Fast regenning shields, another -25% to explosive damage, 4 highs for damage mods, and fitting forges. Basically bringing back pre-1.7 forges, which is not a good thing, they're perfectly balanced now, imo. I'm hoping for a nerf/change to damage mods, but we'll see. Forges balanced? Heh heh heh
Forges are balanced now.
lrn2aim.
Corp: Fatal Absolution
Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
249
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:08:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I really do have a bad feeling about Cal heavies, as far as dropships are concerned. High/Fast regenning shields, another -25% to explosive damage, 4 highs for damage mods, and fitting forges. Basically bringing back pre-1.7 forges, which is not a good thing, they're perfectly balanced now, imo. I'm hoping for a nerf/change to damage mods, but we'll see.
This is what is making me nervous about flying. The depleted delay, in particular, means you better have that last missile ready when those shields go down, otherwise you might be screwed. Though, the Forge is only in a semi-good place against DSs, when a BPO LAV can withstand a proto forge, something is wrong.
The Cal Heavy has some very interesting builds available. My Sig Heavy and I were designing all the racial variants over the weekend, and the Cal Heavy is damn versatile, to say the least.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2307
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:10:00 -
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Scouts OR Cal Heavies
Amarr Assaults and Min assualts will do what they do
Listen
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God Hates Lags
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
856
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:17:00 -
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cranium79 wrote:a bit of trolling here, but hear me out... i bet i know what the FotM for 1.8 will be... a proto (or any really) Cal heavy with 2X complex damage mods, kinetic catalyzer, and... dum dum dum...... 2 majestic (sp) SMGs... with almost as much damage as a duvalle, less cpu and pg requirements, high ROF, and the heavy's high ehp, one can almost make it as fast as a well armored assault suit without needing to add the armor or shields, but you still could. sure, it would cost a ton of ISK, but if you got hundreds of millions of ISK to burn... not a problem. the majestic in general will be FotM, but i figured the Cal heavy will be a nice addition for those who were really looking to **** everyone off . just my opinion. personally, i intend on keeping my assault suit and AR. until the nerfs and buffs stabilize... there's no point.
Nerf to damage mods and flux nades means that this won't be the case. Caldari sent will be all but useless in CQC because of fluxes, but will find it's purpose as the true god class of the forge, and ultimate glass cannon.
If anything I think Amarr Sentinels will be the best sentinels. They're resistant to every type of damage but rail, and they can avoid that by staying in CQC and out of the open.
Doubles ISK
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
1931
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:21:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I really do have a bad feeling about Cal heavies, as far as dropships are concerned. High/Fast regenning shields, another -25% to explosive damage, 4 highs for damage mods, and fitting forges. Basically bringing back pre-1.7 forges, which is not a good thing, they're perfectly balanced now, imo. I'm hoping for a nerf/change to damage mods, but we'll see. Forges balanced? Heh heh heh Forges are balanced now. lrn2aim.
Never missed a shot, its a tank, its not hard to hit, that's not the problem.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
430
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:51:00 -
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Scouts and heavies are my guess for the"FOTM"
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
4525
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:52:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Scouts and heavies are my guess for the"FOTM"
No one touch my minja!
MINE!
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
312
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:41:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm sure I can handle fighting caldari sentinels (Cloaked gallente scout with a shotgun and flux nades)
However, the rest of the community will be too stupid to be able to kill them, so they'll probably be the FOTM.
McBob, i don't think i've ever agreed with you as much as i do right this second.
Adapt or die and HTFU seem to be dead.
...along with a pile of miltia tanks from my IAFG (had to skill into) and hundreds of armor tanked gall-logis from my RR. (waited a frokking year for it, so shhhh quiet time, itll be nerfed, let me be)
CEO of SAM-MIK...sometimes. (shhh don't tell anyone, they'll start asking questions)
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
431
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:45:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Scouts and heavies are my guess for the"FOTM" No one touch my minja! MINE!
You can keep your minja, I'm just gazing into my crystal ball and spouting what I perceive as the future.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
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Yan Darn
DUST University
Ivy League
190
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:49:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm sure I can handle fighting caldari sentinels (Cloaked gallente scout with a shotgun and flux nades)
However, the rest of the community will be too stupid to be able to kill them, so they'll probably be the FOTM.
My thoughts exactly.
The fear? Caldari QQ will be so torrential, fluxs and gal-scouts get nerfed in response.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
767
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:05:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I really do have a bad feeling about Cal heavies, as far as dropships are concerned. High/Fast regenning shields, another -25% to explosive damage, 4 highs for damage mods, and fitting forges. Basically bringing back pre-1.7 forges, which is not a good thing, they're perfectly balanced now, imo. I'm hoping for a nerf/change to damage mods, but we'll see. Forges balanced? Heh heh heh Forges are balanced now. lrn2aim.
I can agree against dropships but it's certainly not balanced against tanks.
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Jax Saurian
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
159
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:36:00 -
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Heavies 1.8
let's see:
1200 eHP
damage resistance
can equip the same long range weapon as you (so you can't say 'keep them at range')
yeah I think Heavies might be OP this build
especially if say the ENTIRE enemy team are heavies with rifles (AR, CR, RR, SCR)
"and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1665
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:37:00 -
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My crystal ball say Gallente Scout will be overused. After all, it's the most versatile between the scouts.
The others, will be the Cal Heavy and Gal Heavy or heavies in general, anyway. How come ccp thought it would be a good idea to add resistances to a high HP suit...
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jhon hartigan
Maphia Clan Corporation
44
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:45:00 -
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Oh my god there is a cal heavy.
1 cloak on
2go behind the heavy
3cloak off
4 oneshot the heavy with knives
5run away laughing |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2398
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:47:00 -
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I'll have fun sprinting and spraying like a Light Frame in a speed and damage tanked gK.0 Sentinel with a SMG and Pistol.
Maybe a Bricked gK.0 Scout with a DTAR?
**** it, I'll just do both.
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
751
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:51:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: My crystal ball say Gallente Scout will be overused. After all, it's the most versatile between the scouts.
The others, will be the Cal Heavy and Gal Heavy or heavies in general, anyway. How come ccp thought it would be a good idea to add resistances to a high HP suit...
....Because it's made as a tanking suit?
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
321
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:00:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: My crystal ball say Gallente Scout will be overused. After all, it's the most versatile between the scouts.
The others, will be the Cal Heavy and Gal Heavy or heavies in general, anyway. How come ccp thought it would be a good idea to add resistances to a high HP suit... ....Because it's made as a tanking suit?
*crosses fingers* mabey they will make it so heavies can only carry a HEAVY weapon, so all that power is only good out to a certain range |
Yan Darn
DUST University
Ivy League
196
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:17:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: My crystal ball say Gallente Scout will be overused. After all, it's the most versatile between the scouts.
This is probably true and I hate it. I want to stay all special and unique and whatnot 
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
6631
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:29:00 -
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I'm guessing scouts just because cloaking is "cool," and of the scouts the Gallente scout is the best by a long shot.
And Aero said unto his children, "LET THERE BE A REGISTRY"
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