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lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 468	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:49:00 - [1] - Quote Wow. Got out of academy in 3 matches and immediately thrown to the wolves. I said it was bad from an outside perspective and now I can vehemently restate it even more from an insider perspective after an even larger sp gap in players. Vets are leaving because they're bored and new players aren't going to stay in this clusterfuck. Things have to change. Tiericide. Now. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4943	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:53:00 - [2] - Quote It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 914	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:58:00 - [3] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 87	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:59:00 - [4] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Yes this. This explains why he got fcked up.
Rusty Shallows 946	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:10:00 - [5] - Quote PO0KY wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Yes this. This explains why he got fcked up. Or he was milking the matches and/or trying out inferior (unfamiliar) kit. There are people who intentionally linger in Battle Adacmey. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 469	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:10:00 - [6] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? Poured all my points into core skills and kept running the militia starter gear. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 469	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:12:00 - [7] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Or he was milking the matches and/or trying out inferior (unfamiliar) kit. There are people who intentionally linger in Battle Adacmey. yep. unfamiliar kit. this is for my scout build. getting familiar with the pistol. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 4945	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:17:00 - [8] - Quote Should've used a Tank > GÇ£I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.GÇ¥ -Oscar Wilde
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 959	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:18:00 - [9] - Quote PO0KY wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Yes this. This explains why he got fcked up. This.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 469	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:20:00 - [10] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Should've used a Tank Trust me, there were plenty of those around. My very first match was the last 2 mins of a skirm with both sides having 4 tanks each. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 558	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:21:00 - [11] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Wow. Got out of academy in 3 matches and immediately thrown to the wolves. I said it was bad from an outside perspective and now I can vehemently restate it even more from an insider perspective after an even larger sp gap in players. Vets are leaving because they're bored and new players aren't going to stay in this clusterfuck. Things have to change. Tiericide. Now. if you were thrown to the wolves we would have trained you. Who wants some?
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 558	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:22:00 - [12] - Quote PO0KY wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Yes this. This explains why he got fcked up. she Who wants some?
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 469	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:22:00 - [13] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: PO0KY wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Yes this. This explains why he got fcked up. she we got an observant one Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3182	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:24:00 - [14] - Quote Will people stop making these cookie cutter NPE threads?? Quote: So I made an alt today and graduated academy and OMG I was thrown to the wolves!! I kept playing Ambush games but hey, why play objective based matches where the enemies are spread apart, the chance to squad with decent players are 50 percent and I can learn the mechanics of the game? No I rather play ambush where the tanks roam and the protos stomp just so I can make a complaint thread that will generate likes. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 469	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:31:00 - [15] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Will people stop making these cookie cutter NPE threads?? Quote: So I made an alt today and graduated academy and OMG I was thrown to the wolves!! I kept playing Ambush games but hey, why play objective based matches where the enemies are spread apart, the chance to squad with decent players are 50 percent and I can learn the mechanics of the game? No I rather play ambush where the tanks roam and the protos stomp just so I can make a complaint thread that will generate likes. lee corwood wrote: My very first match was the last 2 mins of a skirm with both sides having 4 tanks each. Reading. Try it. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 561	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:56:00 - [16] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: PO0KY wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Yes this. This explains why he got fcked up. she we got an observant one I am fond of people with vaginas. Who wants some?
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 561	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:58:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Will people stop making these cookie cutter NPE threads?? Quote: So I made an alt today and graduated academy and OMG I was thrown to the wolves!! I kept playing Ambush games but hey, why play objective based matches where the enemies are spread apart, the chance to squad with decent players are 50 percent and I can learn the mechanics of the game? No I rather play ambush where the tanks roam and the protos stomp just so I can make a complaint thread that will generate likes. I doubt it Who wants some?
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1953	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:00:00 - [18] - Quote What the guy above me said Charlotte O'Dell is a liar, that's only a piece of corn & I'm the one and only majestic unicorn.
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 107	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:04:00 - [19] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: PO0KY wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? This Yes this. This explains why he got fcked up. she It
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 471	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:34:00 - [20] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: I am fond of people with vaginas. I'm laughing so hard Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 569	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:41:00 - [21] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: I am fond of people with vaginas. I'm laughing so hard yeah, I lay on the charm. You should grab your hubby and join the wolves. Who wants some?
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 570	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:45:00 - [22] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? Poured all my points into core skills and kept running the militia starter gear. I almost exclusively run Militia and STD gear on my dropsuits... so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Once you have the core for armor 3 and shield 3, It can be picked up from there. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 472	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:00:00 - [23] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: lee corwood wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? Poured all my points into core skills and kept running the militia starter gear. I almost exclusively run Militia and STD gear on my dropsuits... so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Once you have the core for armor 3 and shield 3, It can be picked up from there. For one, I'm not a great shooter. I'm 100% logi support on this char for good reason. For another...good for you? Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
ENDURO ETC 703rd 13	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:08:00 - [24] - Quote Got out in 1 match in my alt. 17-3 1485 WP. sigh It's gonna be a long time to get that again. Love, Hate, and everything in between.
safura trotsky Kill Mode Activated 2	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:18:00 - [25] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? ^ Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 475	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:25:00 - [26] - Quote ENDURO ETC wrote: Got out in 1 match in my alt. 17-3 1485 WP. sigh It's gonna be a long time to get that again. Nice! I'm working on my gun game so I'm doing straight core skills and then scrambler pistol. The reduced bullets and restricted range is helping me to place my shots, not get eager and run a lot. Not really mad for myself but realizing that even if I wanted to, it's not like I could do anything else. They are either stuck in starter kits for a while due to the large isk costs of training manuals or they're sinking isk into suits prematurely without knowing if its really what they want. Point is, I can see how it would seem hopeless for a newbie just coming in. It's easy to throw around words like 'options' when you are a seasoned player with a bit of isk in the back and the experience behind the mechanics of the game. However, as a ballerina myself, I will say it was very refreshing to have a few games with no scanners at all. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 572	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:35:00 - [27] - Quote lee corwood wrote: ENDURO ETC wrote: Got out in 1 match in my alt. 17-3 1485 WP. sigh It's gonna be a long time to get that again. Nice! I'm working on my gun game so I'm doing straight core skills and then scrambler pistol. The reduced bullets and restricted range is helping me to place my shots, not get eager and run a lot. Not really mad for myself but realizing that even if I wanted to, it's not like I could do anything else. They are either stuck in starter kits for a while due to the large isk costs of training manuals or they're sinking isk into suits prematurely without knowing if its really what they want. Point is, I can see how it would seem hopeless for a newbie just coming in. It's easy to throw around words like 'options' when you are a seasoned player with a bit of isk in the back and the experience behind the mechanics of the game. However, as a ballerina myself, I will say it was very refreshing to have a few games with no scanners at all. if you run into newbs feel free to throw them to the wolves. We have trained a shitload of guys up from nothing. Who wants some?
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 477	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:51:00 - [28] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: lee corwood wrote: ENDURO ETC wrote: Got out in 1 match in my alt. 17-3 1485 WP. sigh It's gonna be a long time to get that again. Nice! I'm working on my gun game so I'm doing straight core skills and then scrambler pistol. The reduced bullets and restricted range is helping me to place my shots, not get eager and run a lot. Not really mad for myself but realizing that even if I wanted to, it's not like I could do anything else. They are either stuck in starter kits for a while due to the large isk costs of training manuals or they're sinking isk into suits prematurely without knowing if its really what they want. Point is, I can see how it would seem hopeless for a newbie just coming in. It's easy to throw around words like 'options' when you are a seasoned player with a bit of isk in the back and the experience behind the mechanics of the game. However, as a ballerina myself, I will say it was very refreshing to have a few games with no scanners at all. if you run into newbs feel free to throw them to the wolves. We have trained a shitload of guys up from nothing. I'll be sure to let them know, Soul. Might even let this char jump in with you guys :D Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Bax Zanith 21	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:51:00 - [29] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Wow. Got out of academy in 3 matches and immediately thrown to the wolves. I said it was bad from an outside perspective and now I can vehemently restate it even more from an insider perspective after an even larger sp gap in players. Vets are leaving because they're bored and new players aren't going to stay in this clusterfuck. Things have to change. Tiericide. Now. I too created an alt, to see what it is like for newplayers. The tutorial system was not helpfull in the least. It just pointed at buttons to press, it didnt explain why I had to press the buttons, it just told me to press the buttons. I was pared with put into a domination match with nothing but new players twice. Match three, was awfull. Six tanks and ten kilokata rail rifles trapped 15 new players and my alt in the mcc. Anyone who spawned at ground instantly died. Anyone who jumped from the mcc was shot in mid air or shot as soon as they landed. I sent mail out to some of my team to see how they felt after the game. They eather said the game was unballenced, or its a pay to win game and not worth there time. I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 477	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:57:00 - [30] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: lee corwood wrote: Wow. Got out of academy in 3 matches and immediately thrown to the wolves. I said it was bad from an outside perspective and now I can vehemently restate it even more from an insider perspective after an even larger sp gap in players. Vets are leaving because they're bored and new players aren't going to stay in this clusterfuck. Things have to change. Tiericide. Now. I too created an alt, to see what it is like for newplayers. The tutorial system was not helpfull in the least. It just pointed at buttons to press, it didnt explain why I had to press the buttons, it just told me to press the buttons. I was pared with put into a domination match with nothing but new players twice. Match three, was awfull. Six tanks and ten kilokata rail rifles trapped 15 new players and my alt in the mcc. Anyone who spawned at ground instantly died. Anyone who jumped from the mcc was shot in mid air or shot as soon as they landed. I sent mail out to some of my team to see how they felt after the game. They eather said the game was unballenced, or its a pay to win game and not worth there time. While I'm glad they have anything at all now, I feel like the tutorial and academy is kind of a joke. The community is doing more for bringing up new players than anything and that's if and only if the player is motivated/even knows to come to these forums. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick

TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:02:00 - [31] - Quote Takes me half a match to graduate. 50 - 1 baby. Or 60 - 0! Thanks CCP Foxfour
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6978	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:04:00 - [32] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Wow. Got out of academy in 3 matches and immediately thrown to the wolves. I said it was bad from an outside perspective and now I can vehemently restate it even more from an insider perspective after an even larger sp gap in players. Vets are leaving because they're bored and new players aren't going to stay in this clusterfuck. Things have to change. Tiericide. Now. Tiericide is a dangerous slogan mate....... It will either balance Dust 514 well or tear the damn thing apart. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 764	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:07:00 - [33] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Should've used a Tank Yeah, I created an alt and spent all the sp on getting the large blaster & rail to Std and then shield & armor to Std. Made a blaster sica and put on 2 small missile launchers. Called it in at the start of the match and waited on 2 blueberries to get in. We spent half the match sitting on the objective just shredding the enemy. When it became obvious the enemy gave up on the objective, the blueberries jumped out and then I moved towards the redline. It got to the point where I'd just shoot a guy once and say "you're dead" (wasn't actually dead though) then tap the trigger at someone else and said "you're dead", etc... Then when their MCC was at a quarter armor I just sat in front of their redline spinning in circles letting them shoot me with swarms and ram LAV's into me. Surprisingly the only other tank to be called in was a rail tank on our team towards the end of the match. Went 41/0 with ~3,200 WP's that match. Felt so bad I almost sent an apology mail to everyone on the enemy team. Support Orbital Spawns
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 477	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:08:00 - [34] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Tiericide is a dangerous slogan mate....... It will either balance Dust 514 well or tear the damn thing apart. So I've heard. The other argument out there is that we simply don't have enough players to properly tier anyways. However, I think it would be much simpler to tier newer players on 3 objective maps at only 8v8 or even 6v6, hell, even just a dom if it at least stimulates a worthwhile challenge instead of a '**** this, I'm out" mentality. If we have too small a pool anyways, it doesn't serve us well to not help it grow at all. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 575	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:11:00 - [35] - Quote lee corwood wrote: True Adamance wrote: Tiericide is a dangerous slogan mate....... It will either balance Dust 514 well or tear the damn thing apart. So I've heard. The other argument out there is that we simply don't have enough players to properly tier anyways. However, I think it would be much simpler to tier newer players on 3 objective maps at only 8v8 or even 6v6, hell, even just a dom if it at least stimulates a worthwhile challenge instead of a '**** this, I'm out" mentality. If we have too small a pool anyways, it doesn't serve us well to not help it grow at all. it all comes down to the communities attitude. CCP allows pub stomping and we do it. They allow isk farming and we do it. There is no standard besides greed. And we love it. Not everyone does that's why we have very few players. Who wants some?
Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1526	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:13:00 - [36] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Patrick57 wrote: It took you three matches to get 1200 WP in the academy? Poured all my points into core skills and kept running the militia starter gear. I have gotten a character so far to 2millSP, not spent any isk or SP, all starter fits, actually do pretty well TBO. I was testing to see wether its worth even worrying about, so far the game is more fun. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Nestil Seraphim Auxiliaries 120	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:05:00 - [37] - Quote typical elitism attitute... instead of getting the problem the OP tries to bring up (well yeah we had some more threads about that lately, but still) everyone is bashing him/her....
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2014.05.06 05:54:00 - [38] - Quote its a real problem Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 935	Posted - 2014.05.06 06:00:00 - [39] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: I am fond of people with vaginas. Good news! I have a friend that is an hermaphrodite and she would love to meet you.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 935	Posted - 2014.05.06 06:04:00 - [40] - Quote Nestil wrote: typical elitism attitute... instead of getting the problem the OP tries to bring up (well yeah we had some more threads about that lately, but still) everyone is bashing him/her.... Because it's a typical problem that's been needing to be addressed for quite some time. Even the OP knew it. CCP hasn't cared to change it yet, and won't with Legion possibly being created. At fanfest they said the academy has done well for NPE so far. Think about it.



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