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Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2928	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:00:00 - [1] - Quote recently someone made a thread about social hubs and that got me thinking about how this massive feature got me thinking how such a massive feature could make more people join apparently CCP want it too because when GNN linked that persons thread on twitter CCP Saberwing said "We're discussing it" I think this could be another EVE/Dust link through WIS (walk in stations) WIS was a feature CCP were working on for a EVE Social hub that was the target of controversy So what I purpose is letting us use public stations for hubs What can you do? I was thinking of 2 main rooms Training room (mercs only) Public space (mercs/capsullers) The training room lets you test weapons/vehicles or play generic fps gameodes with no losses or gains The rec room lets mercs and capsullers socalize and engage in mini games (slay, etc) or watch things like the new eden open, alliance tournament, fanfest, gladatorial arena battles and/or the EVE TV Show (can't wait for the MQ doors to open) Pros Strengthn the link Cons people might play only for the social experiance thoughts? suggestions? "The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Lucrezia LeGrand 311	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:04:00 - [2] - Quote I like it... and yes, I would play only for the social experience. There should also be some comical mini games and a poker table. Thale groupie
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 928	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:08:00 - [3] - Quote goes to social hub suicide That's what you get for telling me what to do!
Bax Zanith 19	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:13:00 - [4] - Quote My only concern is if PS3s and computers could even handle such an interaction. It would be awsome to be in the same room as a capsoler, but would the PS3s software allow this? I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2928	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:18:00 - [5] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: My only concern is if PS3s and computers could even handle such an interaction. It would be awsome to be in the same room as a capsoler, but would the PS3s software allow this? it could I've played portal 2 on my ps3 with a pc player "The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1919	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:27:00 - [6] - Quote If your only Con is that people play the game to . . . not play the game then I would say it's a no brainer. However I would say we need more than 2 distinct aras. We need a Nightclub/Social Bar including Private Booths or rooms that can be rented for ISK (for dealing under the table etc) We need Corporation and Allaince hangers, with virtual firing ranges, flight sims for the relevant characters. We need Marketplaces including stall space that links directly to the player market. We need a thunderdome, completr with betting enclosure Finally we need to be able to go to other people's merc/captain's quarters (also for the dodgy dealing) There should be a hub at every station, with each of the locations having architecture relevant to the station they are on. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 1547	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:33:00 - [7] - Quote We are certainly discussing it in some capacity :) Part of what has drawn me in and kept me involved with other games in the past is the whole social aspect - when I was nerding out in lectures or classes I would be sitting on a social hub and "playing" the game without actually playing it! It's something EVE also has in some capacity through through EVE Gate, etc. There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3552	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:34:00 - [8] - Quote Flip yes!!!! Please do this!!!! Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command Patron saint of Commandos =ƒÿç
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1254	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:35:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We are certainly discussing it in some capacity :) Part of what has drawn me in and kept me involved with other games in the past is the whole social aspect - when I was nerding out in lectures or classes I would be sitting on a social hub and "playing" the game without actually playing it! It's something EVE also has in some capacity through through EVE Gate, etc. There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. A simple way to start this would be to have a screen showing the forum in our merc quarters. This would let us take part in the community while we are waiting to play. The stupid soft keyboard will be a restriction but we will make due if this option is made available to us. Fun > Realism
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 275	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:35:00 - [10] - Quote What's wrong with playing simply for the social experience....... Technically having a character simply to be a corp leader or just to do paperwork and run corps is the social aspect of the game Some days I get on just to chat and see what's going on in corp Real heavies use lasers

Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2931	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:37:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: If your only Con is that people play the game to . . . not play the game then I would say it's a no brainer. However I would say we need more than 2 distinct aras. We need a Nightclub/Social Bar including Private Booths or rooms that can be rented for ISK (for dealing under the table etc) We need Corporation and Allaince hangers, with virtual firing ranges, flight sims for the relevant characters. We need Marketplaces including stall space that links directly to the player market. We need a thunderdome, completr with betting enclosure Finally we need to be able to go to other people's merc/captain's quarters (also for the dodgy dealing) There should be a hub at every station, with each of the locations having architecture relevant to the station they are on. I think there should be more as well just didn't have more ideas :p "The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1254	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:37:00 - [12] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: What's wrong with playing simply for the social experience....... Technically having a character simply to be a corp leader or just to do paperwork and run corps is the social aspect of the game Some days I get on just to chat and see what's going on in corp I don't think that anyone is saying that there is anything wrong with that. We are just looking at there being a link to the larger dust community. The one that exists beyond our own corps. Fun > Realism

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 1552	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:39:00 - [13] - Quote No promises at all on anything yet!! But, the social aspect is integral to the overall experience of playing a multiplayer game and we want to embrace and explore that. :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2931	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:43:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: No promises at all on anything yet!! But, the social aspect is integral to the overall experience of playing a multiplayer game and we want to embrace and explore that. :) after you guys finish core content the things u could do are amazing "The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 275	Posted - 2014.02.11 02:46:00 - [15] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Shadow Archeus wrote: What's wrong with playing simply for the social experience....... Technically having a character simply to be a corp leader or just to do paperwork and run corps is the social aspect of the game Some days I get on just to chat and see what's going on in corp I don't think that anyone is saying that there is anything wrong with that. We are just looking at there being a link to the larger dust community. The one that exists beyond our own corps. O that I agree with.... The link between the games NEEDS to be stronger.....right now i no joke feel like there's no impact from my actions at all Fw is a joke and an isk pit...most games are decided in a matter of 3 minutes.....not kidding three minutes into most matches ONE team gets redlined And don't get me started on PC being broken and flooding money into corps that lock districts....hence why I don't try PC anymore....proto gear and officer gear is NOTHING to these people....I'm not bankrupting my character to take a district when my opponent can run literally anything he wants and NEVER having to worry about his wallet taking a scratch Real heavies use lasers
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1992	Posted - 2014.02.11 03:10:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: No promises at all on anything yet!! But, the social aspect is integral to the overall experience of playing a multiplayer game and we want to embrace and explore that. :) I'm curious if the team has given any consideration to PlayStation home in regards to clubhouses and personal spaces? I've written up a thread topic on the suggestion. I Am The Danger*
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1089	Posted - 2014.02.11 03:11:00 - [17] - Quote >.> If we had Social Hubs in a PS Home sorta fashion, I'd be happy. Sooner or later we'll have clone representatives, like EVE players, that we can dress up and stuff. It would be extremely powerful to develop a social aspect pass the shooter and the number-crunching games of Dust and EVE. That's the true MMO experience. Being able to do things other than just "play the game". A lot of players, EVE side and Dust side, don't want to get into the heavy stuff and would rather just be social creatures. And even then, a lot of fans who don't play, but read stories about New Eden, would definitely join in for the social sphere. Not only that but it would also enhance the competitive-social experience. Instead of having to know every other chat for trading, you could just go to a certain hub and look for weapon traders. Or, if you're looking for some mercenaries, you could go to a bar and chat up some fellows in there. You could be a CEO organizing his forces inside their own War Room at their social hub. You could be an Alliance leader sitting at the executive table with the other leaders as you discuss the future. I think the big issue would be how hard it would work the server...If there's a way to make it work the only other issue is just getting it done properly. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1152	Posted - 2014.02.11 03:31:00 - [18] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We are certainly discussing it in some capacity :) Part of what has drawn me in and kept me involved with other games in the past is the whole social aspect - when I was nerding out in lectures or classes I would be sitting on a social hub and "playing" the game without actually playing it! It's something EVE also has in some capacity through through EVE Gate, etc. There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. A simple way to start this would be to have a screen showing the forum in our merc quarters. This would let us take part in the community while we are waiting to play. The stupid soft keyboard will be a restriction but we will make due if this option is made available to us. Yah darn those 5 dollar USB keyboards...
Teilka Darkmist 258	Posted - 2014.02.11 07:05:00 - [19] - Quote I think that there is a solution to this that also adresses people's concern over a lack of game modes and which will satisfy the capsuleers who want the locked door open. Flesh out the stations. That would give us social spaces, add game modes as you would have the maps of the stations to fight over as well and when that's done, unlock the door for the capsuleers. Over time, more can be added to stations by creating new maps and having them connected by elevators, to give them a built in loading time. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2556	Posted - 2014.02.11 07:15:00 - [20] - Quote Private corp hanger with dancers Buying EVE CE codes for Dust ISK Richest Dust corp per capita, 100% corp activity ;-)

Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 113	Posted - 2014.02.11 07:25:00 - [21] - Quote Joel II X wrote: goes to social hub suicide That's what you get for telling me what to do! no suicideing in public areas Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden. KAMEHAMEHA professional Heavy for hire
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 196	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:35:00 - [22] - Quote This would also make the idea of visible character customization more viable. Which would mean that people could buy visual modifications with Aurum. And I'd really love the ability to hang out in the game. That would really add to the MMO aspect and would be the possible stepping stone for greater things to come.
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 240	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:38:00 - [23] - Quote THE BLUE TAGS MEAN NOTHING! WE'LL GET SOCIAL HUBS IN 2-76 YEARS!!!
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2275	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:51:00 - [24] - Quote A privte corp or alliance hall would be killer. And just think how much easer it will be when u can physical see the clones u want to squad up with. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 153	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:21:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We are certainly discussing it in some capacity :) Part of what has drawn me in and kept me involved with other games in the past is the whole social aspect - when I was nerding out in lectures or classes I would be sitting on a social hub and "playing" the game without actually playing it! It's something EVE also has in some capacity through through EVE Gate, etc. There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. Social Hubs would surely create a whole new source of revenue! Customizable dropsuits/avatars with features that are unlocked through purchase and/or certain goals that could be met. For example 100 headshots in public matches = red forearm plates OR! buy similar (and cooler looking) forearm plates for a certain amount of aurum That Pretty Motherfucker
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2276	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:29:00 - [26] - Quote Half the RP comnunty have discribed leasure clones that most i recon would spend money on to build in game its a whole revenue stream ccp can tap into "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 76	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:40:00 - [27] - Quote I would love to see this happen... BUT NOT IN PSN HOME!!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DUST 514, BUT MARKETING NO MMO ASPECT WILL COME FROM IT BEING IN PSN HOME!!! Caldari Loyalist
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:50:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: No promises at all on anything yet!! But, the social aspect is integral to the overall experience of playing a multiplayer game and we want to embrace and explore that. :) Bingo. It was actually my thread but its not like I invented the wheel, it was an idea people have been posting in the feedback section since the official forums went up. Its the "Starbucks" that your boss talked about at the DICE conference whether he realizes it or not. IMO it begins with first maximizing the social experience in the game's first social hub: The War Room. There's literally no way both proximity and private chats aren't active in there and headscratching why the map doesn't work/the Ground Commander doesn't get like 2 minutes to forum a strategy before every match. This game is supposed to be tactical.
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2014.02.11 12:55:00 - [29] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We are certainly discussing it in some capacity :) Part of what has drawn me in and kept me involved with other games in the past is the whole social aspect - when I was nerding out in lectures or classes I would be sitting on a social hub and "playing" the game without actually playing it! It's something EVE also has in some capacity through through EVE Gate, etc. There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. Social Hubs would surely create a whole new source of revenue! Customizable dropsuits/avatars with features that are unlocked through purchase and/or certain goals that could be met. For example 100 headshots in public matches = red forearm plates OR! buy similar (and cooler looking) forearm plates for a certain amount of aurum would pay AUR to be able to walk around with my helmet off, especially if I got to choose my mercs portrait. activision claims destiny gonna sell more than any other game. social hubs were one of the first things they confirmed.
DustMercsBlog Galactic News Network 125	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:10:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. That's disappointing because it means CCP Cmdr Wang lied to my face. One of your first events was a Q&A inside the Event Horizon Lounge where it was him and another dev [CCP Frame I think it was, but don't quote me] that a friend and myself attended. ZionShad was there as well. he also referenced Corp Training Rooms http://tinyurl.com/luqp85p My question was about 3rd person social areas and he said [i'm quoting him now] "Dust will have a wide range of 3rd person social areas, much more impressive than this." This is at the heart of many fans' issue with CCP promising one thing and not executing. Most fans of this game would appreciate a synthesis of your promises/follow through. He simply told me what he thought we wanted to hear. That's supposed to be marketing's job

steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2276	Posted - 2014.02.11 13:20:00 - [31] - Quote At what point has ccp operated any other way. Dont get me wrong they clearer build very compelling and immersive worlds. But on their timescale only i would not pay attention to anything they promise unless its in the patch notes. I mean they cant even arrange one/ two people to deploy event rewards ffs. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 2006	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:45:00 - [32] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: I would love to see this happen... BUT NOT IN PSN HOME!!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DUST 514, BUT MARKETING NO MMO ASPECT WILL COME FROM IT BEING IN PSN HOME!!! Yes, some key game integration tools are missing from PS Home, so I agree it's not the best idea to fully develop an extension of the Dust gamespace into PS Home at the moment. Regardless, a purchasable player space or clubhouse would seem to be an ideal placeholder step that could net CCP a good deal of money while we wait for integration of station spaces. Who knows PlayStation Now may open up the ability to use PS home anywhere. I Am The Danger*
CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 344	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:51:00 - [33] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: I think that there is a solution to this that also adresses people's concern over a lack of game modes and which will satisfy the capsuleers who want the locked door open. Flesh out the stations. That would give us social spaces, add game modes as you would have the maps of the stations to fight over as well and when that's done, unlock the door for the capsuleers. Over time, more can be added to stations by creating new maps and having them connected by elevators, to give them a built in loading time. Add some Elevator music too and it'd be perfect COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Youtube, A Merc with a passion
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1445	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:07:00 - [34] - Quote The art assets already exist. Take the PS Home map, import it into Unreal, and let Local chat folks rove around in it. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 534	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:12:00 - [35] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We are certainly discussing it in some capacity :) Part of what has drawn me in and kept me involved with other games in the past is the whole social aspect - when I was nerding out in lectures or classes I would be sitting on a social hub and "playing" the game without actually playing it! It's something EVE also has in some capacity through through EVE Gate, etc. There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. A simple way to start this would be to have a screen showing the forum in our merc quarters. This would let us take part in the community while we are waiting to play. The stupid soft keyboard will be a restriction but we will make due if this option is made available to us. I believe this would help the learning curve as well. The reality is most mercs don't even know about the forums. Who wants some?
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2278	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:21:00 - [36] - Quote One day the door will open to a lobby and we can buy things to mark our quarters as our own "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Teilka Darkmist 262	Posted - 2014.02.11 21:14:00 - [37] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: I think that there is a solution to this that also adresses people's concern over a lack of game modes and which will satisfy the capsuleers who want the locked door open. Flesh out the stations. That would give us social spaces, add game modes as you would have the maps of the stations to fight over as well and when that's done, unlock the door for the capsuleers. Over time, more can be added to stations by creating new maps and having them connected by elevators, to give them a built in loading time. Add some Elevator music too and it'd be perfect As soon as I wrote about elevators, Mass Effect jumped into my head. Those were some pretty epic elevator rides. In length at least. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
Teilka Darkmist 262	Posted - 2014.02.11 21:19:00 - [38] - Quote DustMercsBlog wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. That's disappointing because it means CCP Cmdr Wang lied to my face. One of your first events was a Q&A inside the Event Horizon Lounge where it was him and another dev [CCP Frame I think it was, but don't quote me] that a friend and myself attended. ZionShad was there as well. he also referenced Corp Training Rooms http://tinyurl.com/luqp85p My question was about 3rd person social areas and he said [i'm quoting him now] "Dust will have a wide range of 3rd person social areas, much more impressive than this." This is at the heart of many fans' issue with CCP promising one thing and not executing. Most fans of this game would appreciate a synthesis of your promises/follow through. He simply told me what he thought we wanted to hear. That's supposed to be marketing's job Just because he confirmed that there would be social spaces and that they would be more impressive than the PS home one, doesn't mean they had anything concrete. Just that the plans they had were more impressive. So CCP CmdrWang didn't lie, he just didn't tell the whole truth. Which is what you'd expect. They were trying to build up expectation without committing to anything that they didn't know the full details of yet. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2932	Posted - 2014.02.11 23:57:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We are certainly discussing it in some capacity :) Part of what has drawn me in and kept me involved with other games in the past is the whole social aspect - when I was nerding out in lectures or classes I would be sitting on a social hub and "playing" the game without actually playing it! It's something EVE also has in some capacity through through EVE Gate, etc. There's nothing concrete yet, but it's definitely being thrown around about how we would like to expand the functionality of the game. Been hearing this line for almost ten years now.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 2015	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:06:00 - [40] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The art assets already exist. Take the PS Home map, import it into Unreal, and let Local chat folks rove around in it. And there you go. It's even got nifty chairs. I Am The Danger*



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