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DMH Bond
Dust OMEGA corp
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:09:00 -
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In what world is the main gun of a tank used to kill people? This makes absolutely no sense.
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:10:00 -
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Dheez
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:12:00 -
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EarthGǪ Especially during wars. |
DMH Bond
Dust OMEGA corp
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:19:00 -
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Dheez wrote:EarthGǪ Especially during wars.
I was is the US Army so please forgive my ignorance. But in what war is it standard for a 120mm cannon to be fired at individuals? Its called over kill and not SOP. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:20:00 -
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Agreed, remove large blaster turrets or nerf them to the ground
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:20:00 -
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DMH Bond wrote:Dheez wrote:EarthGǪ Especially during wars. I was is the US Army so please forgive my ignorance. But in what war is it standard for a 120mm cannon to be fired at individuals? Its called over kill and not SOP.
We're mercenaries. "By any means necessary" and overkill ARE SOP.  |
killer carrot top
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:20:00 -
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And not mention roe lol how many ncos would flip at that? |
straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:21:00 -
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DMH Bond wrote:Dheez wrote:EarthGǪ Especially during wars. I was is the US Army so please forgive my ignorance. But in what war is it standard for a 120mm cannon to be fired at individuals? Its called over kill and not SOP.
Pretty sure drone payload's are in the overkill category, so i guess overkill is SOP. |
Adelia Lafayette
Science For Death
628
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:25:00 -
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Welcome to video games where girls wear armor skimpier than lingerie and it has an armor value over 9000!
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
908
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Posted - 2014.02.10 04:28:00 -
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This is new eden, the railgun on the tanks is 80X more powerful than a cruise missile. But please, explain how something measured in kilometers/sec has measurable drop and travel time within and somehow evaporates at 600 meters.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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calvin b
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.10 05:11:00 -
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DMH Bond wrote:Dheez wrote:EarthGǪ Especially during wars. I was is the US Army so please forgive my ignorance. But in what war is it standard for a 120mm cannon to be fired at individuals? Its called over kill and not SOP.
I agree when I was in the Marines I enjoyed blowing S*** up, but yes using a tank to kill one person is stupid. I also thought dropping a MOAB on a single house was stupid, but sometimes you just have to get your point across.
A heavy before 1.8
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DMH Bond
Dust OMEGA corp
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Posted - 2014.02.10 05:17:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:DMH Bond wrote:Dheez wrote:EarthGǪ Especially during wars. I was is the US Army so please forgive my ignorance. But in what war is it standard for a 120mm cannon to be fired at individuals? Its called over kill and not SOP. We're mercenaries. "By any means necessary" and overkill ARE SOP.
If " By any mean necessary" was true then I'd be able to kill infantry with my SL instead of tickling some tankers steely balls. |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.02.10 05:20:00 -
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I had the same question, but I was told that apparently it is used like this quite often.
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You're now reading it.
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Dheez
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS
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Posted - 2014.02.10 14:42:00 -
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I may be deviating from the subject, but in war, if faced against a determined enemy "By any means necessary" or "Over Powering" the enemy is SOP.
If it means neutralizing more of the enemies battle capability by using a Big Ashe Gun in order to lessen my casualties, then so be it.
Using Bigger Guns in War
Dust 514 is a wargame, Standard Logic sometimes takes a back seat. |
Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 14:49:00 -
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DMH Bond wrote:In what world is the main gun of a tank used to kill people? This makes absolutely no sense.
Uhm, the real world?
Do you know what tanks do against enemy infantry in urban enviroments provided they aren't under orders to minimize collateral damage?
Also, there are thermobaric munitions for main guns, which is used purely for smoking out infantry out of fortifications.
Perhaps you aren't very knowledgeable in modern tank warfare? |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2350
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Posted - 2014.02.10 14:50:00 -
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"3 Tanks vs. 16 Infantryman is a totally legit tactic and a reasonable potential fiscal loss, comparatively."
~Nobody. Ever.
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
501
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Posted - 2014.02.10 14:53:00 -
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I am not target ing people a am targeting their equipment. there are ways around geneva
Who wants some?
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1187
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:14:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:DMH Bond wrote:In what world is the main gun of a tank used to kill people? This makes absolutely no sense.
Uhm, the real world? Do you know what tanks do against enemy infantry in urban enviroments provided they aren't under orders to minimize collateral damage? Also, there are thermobaric munitions for main guns, which is used purely for smoking out infantry out of fortifications. Perhaps you aren't very knowledgeable in modern tank warfare?
I think OP is referring to the giant machine gun that is the large blaster turret. That is stupid!
No reason to have a giant machine gun for what this game is otherwise when you could have low RoF and better splash damage from exploding rounds.
That would make more sense.
There is a reason ppl are b*tching about blaster tanks.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1167
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:22:00 -
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DMH Bond wrote:In what world is the main gun of a tank used to kill people? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what you're saying is that, if the military had access to blaster technology, which can be scaled to tank turret size and rapid fire with very little recoil and much more effectively deal with hordes of enemy infantry, they'd immediately take a look at this technology and say "whoa, this is way to effective, we'd better scrap the whole project ASAP".
Believe me when I say that, if it was possible to effectively rapid fire 105mm rounds at hordes of enemy infantry, you bet your @$$ they'd be doing it.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4439
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:24:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:"3 Tanks vs. 16 Infantryman is a totally legit tactic and a reasonable potential fiscal loss, comparatively."
~Everyone. New Eden.
Fixed that for you.
Also, T249 Vigilante says hi. It's designed for anti-aircraft, but it looks entertaining for anti-infantry use as well.
You might also want to check out whatever the kitten this thing is meant to be.
DUST 514 doesn't have a monopoly on anti-infantry weapons for tanks. |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1167
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:29:00 -
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Yup that'd do it.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
501
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:32:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:DMH Bond wrote:In what world is the main gun of a tank used to kill people? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what you're saying is that, if the military had access to blaster technology, which can be scaled to tank turret size and rapid fire with very little recoil and much more effectively deal with hordes of enemy infantry, they'd immediately take a look at this technology and say "whoa, this is way to effective, we'd better scrap the whole project ASAP". Believe me when I say that, if it was possible to effectively rapid fire 105mm rounds at hordes of enemy infantry, you bet your @$$ they'd be doing it.
you can say ass
Who wants some?
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1167
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:35:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:DMH Bond wrote:In what world is the main gun of a tank used to kill people? This makes absolutely no sense.
So what you're saying is that, if the military had access to blaster technology, which can be scaled to tank turret size and rapid fire with very little recoil and much more effectively deal with hordes of enemy infantry, they'd immediately take a look at this technology and say "whoa, this is way to effective, we'd better scrap the whole project ASAP". Believe me when I say that, if it was possible to effectively rapid fire 105mm rounds at hordes of enemy infantry, you bet your @$$ they'd be doing it. you can say ass
Force of habit. It looks cooler anyway.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2355
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Posted - 2014.02.11 05:22:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rynoceros wrote:"3 Tanks vs. 16 Infantryman is a totally legit tactic and a reasonable potential fiscal loss, comparatively."
~Everyone. New Eden. Fixed that for you. Also, T249 Vigilante says hi. It's designed for anti-aircraft, but it looks entertaining for anti-infantry use as well. You might also want to check out whatever the kitten this thing is meant to be. DUST 514 doesn't have a monopoly on anti-infantry weapons for tanks.
Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the chirping crickets that replaced the sound of gunfire in your precious little **** show.
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1191
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Posted - 2014.02.11 06:09:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rynoceros wrote:"3 Tanks vs. 16 Infantryman is a totally legit tactic and a reasonable potential fiscal loss, comparatively."
~Everyone. New Eden. Fixed that for you. Also, T249 Vigilante says hi. It's designed for anti-aircraft, but it looks entertaining for anti-infantry use as well. You might also want to check out whatever the kitten this thing is meant to be. DUST 514 doesn't have a monopoly on anti-infantry weapons for tanks. Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the chirping crickets that replaced the sound of gunfire in your precious little **** show.
The first one is still not a giant f*cking machine gun. It is a gatlin gun and a bit larger than a 50 cal. The second one is a laughable photoshopped image.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
20
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Posted - 2014.02.11 06:34:00 -
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DMH Bond wrote:In what world is the main gun of a tank used to kill people? This makes absolutely no sense.
You are approaching the question from the wrong angle.
You should be asking why tanks are the best at dealing with tanks and infantry with the use of only 1 of your 16 team members? It ruins the purpose of a multi role fps.
Neither this game or Eve are realistic in terms of what warfare would look like between super powers in the modern world, let alone in a space sim set thousands of years in the future, but blowing crap up is fun.
I'm sure long time fans immersed in the universe would say, "No way! New Eden is an accurate depiction of future warfare!" But, consider this just as a few points. Why develop plasma, missile, lasers, etc. to shred enemy ships when you could target the life support and have access to more salvage as space is inherently inhospitable. Why fight in dropsuits and drones when any software can be disabled or infected. It's not realistic to have hand held weaponry that wouldn't blow up a mountain let alone a tank. These games are deviations of old military tradition. But, it's fun as long as it is properly balanced to allow for various styles of effective emergent gameplay.
From a game balance perspective, CCP should poll tankers to pick one:
1) Be squishy and susceptible to av. (Tougher then an LAV, but a weapon of equivalent tier should be able to handle the enemy tank if it isn't careful. A prototype av weapon should shred a militia tank.)
2) Main gun be inefficient with dealing with infantry. (Remember you can fit small turrets that will shred infantry which would be more balanced as the tank that requires teamwork to stop also would require teamwork to roll over the enemy team.)
As it stands right now tanks are force multipliers making the only logical progression tank514.
There are better tank sim games out there, and it is a balance flaw to make tanks the be all end all of the battlefield. |
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