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kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 308	Posted - 2014.02.09 16:35:00 - [1] - Quote A lot of people truly care about their KDR; that's one of the reasons we have proto stomping and HAV spam. What if we make another stat the main objective? What if at the end of each match, you see an emphasis on ISK cost? The stat would rank you on the amount of ISK you lost in fittings compared to the amount of ISK you cost the enemy. Do you think this would move more people away from proto because if they die once and are facing a team of militia, it will take them an ungodly amount of kills in order to have a positive ISK cost? This wouldn't take care of tanks, I don't think. But it would incentivize more people to go after tanks together because by killing them, you have already cost the opposing enemy to lose ISK. Money is always a factor in war; I think we should have stats dealing with it. Thoughts?
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 430	Posted - 2014.02.09 16:44:00 - [2] - Quote kiarbanor wrote: A lot of people truly care about their KDR; that's one of the reasons we have proto stomping and HAV spam. What if we make another stat the main objective? What if at the end of each match, you see an emphasis on ISK cost? The stat would rank you on the amount of ISK you lost in fittings compared to the amount of ISK you cost the enemy. Do you think this would move more people away from proto because if they die once and are facing a team of militia, it will take them an ungodly amount of kills in order to have a positive ISK cost? This wouldn't take care of tanks, I don't think. But it would incentivize more people to go after tanks together because by killing them, you have already cost the opposing enemy to lose ISK. Money is always a factor in war; I think we should have stats dealing with it. Thoughts? With PC creating massing amount of ISK. Tankers that makes free money easily. I don't really see the point. We already know playing proto means losing iSK. More than 2 death and you're already losing ISK (exept for scouts.) Stop thiking the "bad" proto player is a bad player with evil way of playing etcetc..... They lose iSk everymatch.... And even if they were playing ADV this would be almost the same.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1239	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:55:00 - [3] - Quote Actually we have been asking for more stats including isk destroyed/isk lost for quite a long time. Having more stats will never get rid of the KDR padders though since as the second poster pointed out many of us have more money than we know what to do with. This is really the larger issue. Get rid of the excess cash get rid of stomping. Fun > Realism
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 454	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:24:00 - [4] - Quote Or why not have NO stats be tracked? Mass effect 3 kept track of challenges and something that's equivalent to prestige in CoD, that's it, no-one cared about their stats and just worried about having fun, then again it was Co-op and not PVP... But the fact still remains that if you just eliminate stats like kills and deaths altogether it would just change people's perspectives, maybe make it based entirely on war points if anything and then rebalance the war point distribution to provide more for tactical actions, defending objectives, repairing vehicles and installations, saving teammates This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2615	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:30:00 - [5] - Quote Agreed, I remember games were about going all out, now people are scared to die. Dust is promoted as immortal mercs fighting epic battles. The reality is a scared bunch of biachs more concerned about their profit margin and k/d than actually winning for the most part. I have a 3.79 k/d with no padding and I support logi. Ironically my tanker alt has a 16.27 k/d and is 15th global for monthly k/d at 77.0 lol. Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
PO0KY Virtual Syndicate 58	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:53:00 - [6] - Quote The more stats the better, i say.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1240	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:26:00 - [7] - Quote I agree that more stats would be great. Once again I'd like to reiterate that the issue isn't the stats. There will always be people that play like jerks just for the sake of it. No the issue is the isk. We (vets) have too much giving us an insane advantage over newer players. Kill our isk earning potential or give us a massive isk sink (that is more interesting than FW) and the issue will over time disappear. Fun > Realism


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