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2 Pistols
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.09 08:25:00 -
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iOwn AE Glitchers wrote:DJINN n Juice wrote:it's called friends, maybe you should make some? Maybe your friends can help you not go 8/16 in PC? ahaha those 8 kills were probably stolen lmao |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
4507
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Posted - 2014.02.09 08:29:00 -
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FA is here to make money. |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
918
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:46:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Ladies and Gentleman of the court, I present to you the master of manipulation himself, the lord of liars, the don of deception, the ruler of ruses, the leader of the coalition against Renegade Alliance.
Zatara
who is helping renegade alliance...
And you want to bash my personal character and say I'm untrustworthy wow, just wow.
From a business stand point, great, you made money off your enemy. I can respect that. Bravo.
From any other stand point, wow, I'm shocked how full of it you are. I'm not entirely sure, but I believe it was just one person, and he was getting paid 6 mil... who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to make 6 mil ISK easy? Like I said from a business standpoint, great, he made money off his enemy. Him trying to be self righteous, calling me untrustworthy, meanwhile he leads a coalition against the alliance he is ringing for? I just find it awfully ironic. I believe this should be my response to you.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2760
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:59:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:Ladies and Gentleman of the court, I present to you the master of manipulation himself, the lord of liars, the don of deception, the ruler of ruses, the leader of the coalition against Renegade Alliance.
Zatara
who is helping renegade alliance...
And you want to bash my personal character and say I'm untrustworthy wow, just wow.
From a business stand point, great, you made money off your enemy. I can respect that. Bravo.
From any other stand point, wow, I'm shocked how full of it you are.
You've got a lot to learn about Dust politics.
I don't know how many times I've faced people that are supposedly blue in PC. The high level guys want to get paid and don't care how they get it. Sometimes I'm sure it's hard to remember what corp they are in at the moment.
There's a lot of **** talking in the War Room but a lot of these guys squad up together even though they seem like enemies if you read their posts.
I highly, highly doubt Zatara knew one of his dudes rang for AE. And with high level guys there's little you can say. Put your foot down too much and they'll just bounce.
Just another reason PC mechanics need to change. What do you expect when the game mode includes a tiny fraction of the player base?
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires The CORVOS
98
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Posted - 2014.02.09 16:57:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Ladies and Gentleman of the court, I present to you the master of manipulation himself, the lord of liars, the don of deception, the ruler of ruses, the leader of the coalition against Renegade Alliance.
Zatara
who is helping renegade alliance...
And you want to bash my personal character and say I'm untrustworthy wow, just wow.
From a business stand point, great, you made money off your enemy. I can respect that. Bravo.
From any other stand point, wow, I'm shocked how full of it you are. You've got a lot to learn about Dust politics. I don't know how many times I've faced people that are supposedly blue in PC. The high level guys want to get paid and don't care how they get it. Sometimes I'm sure it's hard to remember what corp they are in at the moment. There's a lot of **** talking in the War Room but a lot of these guys squad up together even though they seem like enemies if you read their posts. I highly, highly doubt Zatara knew one of his dudes rang for AE. And with high level guys there's little you can say. Put your foot down too much and they'll just bounce. Just another reason PC mechanics need to change. What do you expect when the game mode includes a tiny fraction of the player base?
If RA is attacking people in Zatara's coalition while Zatara's corp is helping RA it makes no sense to follow him. Squading up with people is totally different from assisting your enemy in a PC battle, when your corp is leading a campaign against them with allies.
I don't have a lot to learn about Dust politics, because there is no such thing, New Eden Politics is all that matters, for example, me and your EVE pilot Hawkin are good friends, and labluegem, I trust them completely, I went out of my way to get my alliance leader to establish blue status with them, because I enjoy working with them, however they're now in an alliance with Zatara on Dust, who has made false accusations against me, (where as mine are all factual) that complicates things for both us. I'm sure Hawkin and Labluegem see the potential I bring to them EVE side and Dust side, while Zatara brings his superior Dust Side.
I am inclined to help Hawkin and Labluegem in anyway possible, financially, against pirates, getting our dusties to ring for them, helping their fleets, and whatever the future of PC 2.0 has in store for us, which I'm sure will have a lot more to do with EVE. Where as Zatara could ruin all that with his false accusations and lack of responsibility (and various other things). Luckily for me it would seem he is being replaced as CEO. So hopefully I won't have to deal with him diplomatically and his successor is better than he.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2760
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Posted - 2014.02.09 17:02:00 -
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What I'm saying is, is that it's doubtful that this is anything more than a dude who jumped into a PC match.
I don't think Dust politics are complex enough to make such a thing matter very much. Something like that involving big nullsec blocks could lead to a Mittani article. PC makes up 100s of players of which less than a hundred can flip any and all momentum in a week.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires The CORVOS
98
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Posted - 2014.02.09 17:33:00 -
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One person, can make a big impression on people. SmokeDatKush made it very hard for me to do diplomacy with a lot of people. Even if Zatara didn't know and it was just one guy who hopped in a PC battle, all the mails I got about Zatara being incompetent and failing at leading the coalition against Renegade Alliance, leads me to believe he's not the man for that job. Personally I'd of loved to have seen SVER lead the coalition, but everyone trusted in Zatara, despite week after week of pushing back attacks and no results. The fact that his corpies go against his goals by aiding RA in a PC battle, shouldn't be overlooked when talking about a coalition leader.
Then again, this is just a game though right? Log on, kill people, die, log off, and go about your day. :P
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
118
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Posted - 2014.02.09 17:39:00 -
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One guy helped out AE in a battle for 6mil ISK, and that means we're friends with RA now?
You're acting as if it was a full squad, he probably acted alone.
Corp: Fatal Absolution
Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
918
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Posted - 2014.02.09 17:44:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:One person, can make a big impression on people. SmokeDatKush made it very hard for me to do diplomacy with a lot of people. Even if Zatara didn't know and it was just one guy who hopped in a PC battle, all the mails I got about Zatara being incompetent and failing at leading the coalition against Renegade Alliance, leads me to believe he's not the man for that job. Personally I'd of loved to have seen SVER lead the coalition, but everyone trusted in Zatara, despite week after week of pushing back attacks and no results. The fact that his corpies go against his goals by aiding RA in a PC battle, shouldn't be overlooked when talking about a coalition leader.
Then again, this is just a game though right? Log on, kill people, die, log off, and go about your day. :P Just going to point out that you tried making an anti rent some aids alliance or something. and it failed hardcore. Besides that fact, you're trying to tell a person in a merc corp to not be a merc, our primary goal may be to take down AE, but we're all still mercs at heart, except for me, whom is a truly valiant knight! And you sir, I think needs to answer this question.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
2445
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Posted - 2014.02.09 17:45:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:One person, can make a big impression on people. SmokeDatKush made it very hard for me to do diplomacy with a lot of people. Even if Zatara didn't know and it was just one guy who hopped in a PC battle, all the mails I got about Zatara being incompetent and failing at leading the coalition against Renegade Alliance, leads me to believe he's not the man for that job. Personally I'd of loved to have seen SVER lead the coalition, but everyone trusted in Zatara, despite week after week of pushing back attacks and no results. The fact that his corpies go against his goals by aiding RA in a PC battle, shouldn't be overlooked when talking about a coalition leader.
Then again, this is just a game though right? Log on, kill people, die, log off, and go about your day. :P
I hate to have to butt in here cause Zatara can defend himself but you post bs after bs, which makes it hard to ignore. This is like the 2nd or 3rd time you've mentioned him pushing back attacks. Corps failing to follow Zatara's plan was the sole reason why attacks got pushed back. Had nothing to do with him being incompetent......it was out of his hands.
I've rarely seen a player come out of nowhere and butt in other people's business and d-ride one guy like what you have been doing. I've never seen your corp in pc, so I'm wondering where all of this hate is coming from.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Judge SoTa PoP
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2014.02.09 17:59:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:One person, can make a big impression on people. SmokeDatKush made it very hard for me to do diplomacy with a lot of people. Even if Zatara didn't know and it was just one guy who hopped in a PC battle, all the mails I got about Zatara being incompetent and failing at leading the coalition against Renegade Alliance, leads me to believe he's not the man for that job. Personally I'd of loved to have seen SVER lead the coalition, but everyone trusted in Zatara, despite week after week of pushing back attacks and no results. The fact that his corpies go against his goals by aiding RA in a PC battle, shouldn't be overlooked when talking about a coalition leader.
Then again, this is just a game though right? Log on, kill people, die, log off, and go about your day. :P When you're in the position you're in, you have to ask yourself a few questions:
How well do I know Zatara and his motives? How well do I know his friends and connections? How far do my own influence effect him - and vice versa? What do I gain? What do I lose? What's best for my interest?
And lastly, but never forgotten:
Why am I still playing dust?
You see, in this game, it's very easy for people to get lost in the fact EvE is connected to us in some small way, so they believe EvE guys are just like Dust guys! Wrong.
How often do you think this very small community has ****** itself time and time again? Everyone has a grudge, but no one keeps to it because if everyone played eye for an eye MH would be blinded by now. Our community is too small. So no one is going to look two ways at a single merc from FA ringing for AE. Especially when you realize which merc it was and how many friends he has with AE.
But still - hahahahahaha AE should hire a full team of FA next time so we can get a decent game. |
Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires The CORVOS
98
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:02:00 -
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Many people are narrow minded and believe EVE doesn't have a future in DUST or effect DUST. Also I am still watching grudge matches, people do hold grudges, how long they last is whatever. I wouldn't be surprised of Zatara holds a grudge against me for all I've said about him for the next year.
I just find it awkward that a coalition leader against renegade, is helping them. Seems, how should I say....counter productive? Am I the only one who see's that as counter productive?
As for Zatara's bio, I could care less. His current direction has moved in a direction I like, he's with all of my allies.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
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Big miku
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
345
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:13:00 -
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Ironic cause I was kicked for ringing against DDB.
Good matches, nice tank fights and a great Dropship on the other side kept things interesting. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
431
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:15:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Ironic cause I was kicked for ringing against DDB.
Good matches, nice tank fights and a great Dropship on the other side kept things interesting.
Totally different you were ringing against a corp you were allies with |
noob cavman
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
595
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:43:00 -
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Bit nyain san deployed against anon when we were apart of ra
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
240
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:24:00 -
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Simple point to be made. They kicked our ass. I thought I could hang on a personal note but shown otherwise. It felt like at one point there were 32 of them in the game hahaha. Everytime I spawned I was instantly hit with bullets. Nothing to say on my end but good job and looking forward to a rematch/retribution. That 4-20 I went didn't taste very well.
GG guys.. |
Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
207
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:55:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:One person, can make a big impression on people. SmokeDatKush made it very hard for me to do diplomacy with a lot of people. Even if Zatara didn't know and it was just one guy who hopped in a PC battle, all the mails I got about Zatara being incompetent and failing at leading the coalition against Renegade Alliance, leads me to believe he's not the man for that job. Personally I'd of loved to have seen SVER lead the coalition, but everyone trusted in Zatara, despite week after week of pushing back attacks and no results. The fact that his corpies go against his goals by aiding RA in a PC battle, shouldn't be overlooked when talking about a coalition leader.
Then again, this is just a game though right? Log on, kill people, die, log off, and go about your day. :P I hate to have to butt in here cause Zatara can defend himself but you post bs after bs, which makes it hard to ignore. This is like the 2nd or 3rd time you've mentioned him pushing back attacks. Corps failing to follow Zatara's plan was the sole reason why attacks got pushed back. Had nothing to do with him being incompetent......it was out of his hands. I've rarely seen a player come out of nowhere and butt in other people's business and d-ride one guy like what you have been doing. I've never seen your corp in pc, so I'm wondering where all of this hate is coming from.
News flash!
Spartacus Dust is Mathew Dust (some of you already know that)
History lesson!
When I was in The Phoenix Federation, he left because he didn't agree with the CEO (so he told me). He either corp jumped like crazy or created a lot of corps because his corp history was all over the place. He talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. He boasts about his Eve side a lot and is "buddies" with an ******* who thought using me and my corp for his benefit then spitting in our faces was an awesome plan. They then get the **** beaten out of them when they entered PC that they didn't even show up for the other two fights which sucked because that is when I got online.
I bet the reason why he gets so many thumbs up for running for CPM is alts and telling corps members to do it.
He knows nothing about PC and is not a good Dust player. He rages in the matches I played with him and acts like he knows Dust like the back of his hand but doesn't.
Yet he thinks he would be good for CPM, ha!
I imagine him trying to make everything benefit himself and his alliance. His ideals for PC and the Eve link already shows it. Clearly something that is very important is the Eve-Dust link instead of the game itself. The game can be perfectly linked and the game still won't get a bigger community because the game itself is terrible for new players and annoying for many other players.
He mentions PC 2.0 and can't wait because Eve will play a bigger role. Hm... wants Eve/Dust link to be strong, wants that to happen so his corp stands a better chance in PC, runs for CPM... Hm... self motivated?
Hey FA, RND, ML, and everyone else responding to this guys posts. If you ever have space fighting his corps, feel free to hit me up because i'll ring for free.
Only problem is I can't get on Dust except to check mail for the next couple of months (2.5 - 3 months) because I am getting ready to move soon and are working out real life deals. (Ughhhhhhhhh). If I manage to get on, feel free to hit me up.
One more thing, one guy from FA ringing is not a problem. Like Rampage said, there are these things called friends, Google it cupcake. AE and FA fight and joke about it and mess with each other if they have friends in the other corp. We don't view corp labels as "enemies", it's not a big deal.
Reg has said this before to someone else "A non PC corp that only plays pubs thinking they know anything about PC or what goes on."
I don't play Eve, so I stay out of Eve "politics". If you aren't involved in PC, stay out of the "politics".
It's like CEO Pyrex, he acts like he knows how PC is but clearly does not. Obviously we all "revolve our lives" around PC lol. Stay out of the politics if you are not involved.
Here on Dust, corps will fight each other and troll each other in the War Room for fun or to mess with each other, yet we all go play other games together and joke around.
Anyone who only views things from a "political" or "relations" standpoint should probably realize that this is a video game and we are all here to have fun. So... buzz off and go spread rumors to Pud and your alliance about how something is happening because you read it in the War Room... The WAR ROOM <--- lol Watch out, RA and FA are teaming up oooooooo * fiddles fingers * lol
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02/05/whatever Peace made between psychopath Yoshi and CCP. You all get to live... for now... :P
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Judge SoTa PoP
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2014.02.09 21:00:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:One person, can make a big impression on people. SmokeDatKush made it very hard for me to do diplomacy with a lot of people. Even if Zatara didn't know and it was just one guy who hopped in a PC battle, all the mails I got about Zatara being incompetent and failing at leading the coalition against Renegade Alliance, leads me to believe he's not the man for that job. Personally I'd of loved to have seen SVER lead the coalition, but everyone trusted in Zatara, despite week after week of pushing back attacks and no results. The fact that his corpies go against his goals by aiding RA in a PC battle, shouldn't be overlooked when talking about a coalition leader.
Then again, this is just a game though right? Log on, kill people, die, log off, and go about your day. :P I hate to have to butt in here cause Zatara can defend himself but you post bs after bs, which makes it hard to ignore. This is like the 2nd or 3rd time you've mentioned him pushing back attacks. Corps failing to follow Zatara's plan was the sole reason why attacks got pushed back. Had nothing to do with him being incompetent......it was out of his hands. I've rarely seen a player come out of nowhere and butt in other people's business and d-ride one guy like what you have been doing. I've never seen your corp in pc, so I'm wondering where all of this hate is coming from. News flash! Spartacus Dust is Mathew Dust (some of you already know that) History lesson! When I was in The Phoenix Federation, he left because he didn't agree with the CEO (so he told me). He either corp jumped like crazy or created a lot of corps because his corp history was all over the place. He talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. He boasts about his Eve side a lot and is "buddies" with an ******* who thought using me and my corp for his benefit then spitting in our faces was an awesome plan. They then get the **** beaten out of them when they entered PC that they didn't even show up for the other two fights which sucked because that is when I got online. I bet the reason why he gets so many thumbs up for running for CPM is alts and telling corps members to do it. He knows nothing about PC and is not a good Dust player. He rages in the matches I played with him and acts like he knows Dust like the back of his hand but doesn't. Yet he thinks he would be good for CPM, ha! I imagine him trying to make everything benefit himself and his alliance. His ideals for PC and the Eve link already shows it. Clearly something that is very important is the Eve-Dust link instead of the game itself. The game can be perfectly linked and the game still won't get a bigger community because the game itself is terrible for new players and annoying for many other players. He mentions PC 2.0 and can't wait because Eve will play a bigger role. Hm... wants Eve/Dust link to be strong, wants that to happen so his corp stands a better chance in PC, runs for CPM... Hm... self motivated? Hey FA, RND, ML, and everyone else responding to this guys posts. If you ever have space fighting his corps, feel free to hit me up because i'll ring for free. Only problem is I can't get on Dust except to check mail for the next couple of months (2.5 - 3 months) because I am getting ready to move soon and are working out real life deals. (Ughhhhhhhhh). If I manage to get on, feel free to hit me up. One more thing, one guy from FA ringing is not a problem. Like Rampage said, there are these things called friends, Google it cupcake. AE and FA fight and joke about it and mess with each other if they have friends in the other corp. We don't view corp labels as "enemies", it's not a big deal. Reg has said this before to someone else "A non PC corp that only plays pubs thinking they know anything about PC or what goes on." I don't play Eve, so I stay out of Eve "politics". If you aren't involved in PC, stay out of the "politics". It's like CEO Pyrex, he acts like he knows how PC is but clearly does not. Obviously we all "revolve our lives" around PC lol. Stay out of the politics if you are not involved. Here on Dust, corps will fight each other and troll each other in the War Room for fun or to mess with each other, yet we all go play other games together and joke around. Anyone who only views things from a "political" or "relations" standpoint should probably realize that this is a video game and we are all here to have fun. So... buzz off and go spread rumors to Pud and your alliance about how something is happening because you read it in the War Room... The WAR ROOM <--- lol Watch out, RA and FA are teaming up oooooooo * fiddles fingers * lol ... TL;DR ANIME FTW |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2121
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Posted - 2014.02.09 21:05:00 -
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Here here.
I thought about answering his bologne but I think others have done if for me.
The whole idea of other corps finding fault in me for inadequacies if the coalition moving the date back demonstrates how outside of the loop people like you are.
The coalition was not to take down RA, it was to coordinate teams so that we could attack the Asians. I really don't want AE out if PC and I've got friends in DDB as well.
Only those who were far removed would have been under your impression.
I feel sorry for corps you are affiliated with who will be negatively affected by your decision to attempt to get a rise out of me.
You're nothing to me. Just another douchenozzle with an axe to grind.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
207
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Posted - 2014.02.09 21:05:00 -
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Sign the petition in the Locker Room Sota!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140858&find=unread
Sign it!
You know you want to
02/05/whatever Peace made between psychopath Yoshi and CCP. You all get to live... for now... :P
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
207
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Posted - 2014.02.09 21:07:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Here here.
I thought about answering his bologne but I think others have done if for me.
The whole idea of other corps finding fault in me for inadequacies if the coalition moving the date back demonstrates how outside of the loop people like you are.
The coalition was not to take down RA, it was to coordinate teams so that we could attack the Asians. I really don't want AE out if PC and I've got friends in DDB as well.
Only those who were far removed would have been under your impression.
I feel sorry for corps you are affiliated with who will be negatively affected by your decision to attempt to get a rise out of me.
You're nothing to me. Just another douchenozzle with an axe to grind.
Pssst Coach! Pick me!
Pick me if you ever fight his corps in PC, I want in.
02/05/whatever Peace made between psychopath Yoshi and CCP. You all get to live... for now... :P
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XxWarlordxX97
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
4157
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Posted - 2014.02.09 21:23:00 -
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I come in here looking for trolls and became disappoint
p.s. please troll this post well
Hello reddots >:)
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2121
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Posted - 2014.02.10 00:39:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:
Pssst Coach! Pick me!
Pick me if you ever fight his corps in PC, I want in.
Duly noted.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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