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Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:47:00 -
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For those who use nova knives and scout suits...
What's the minimum proficiency +dmg mods that you would need with nova knives to charge and one hit a heavy?
I'm still unclear how much damage charging NK does...
(Heavy has 1200hp)
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:48:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:For those who use nova knives and scout suits...
What's the minimum proficiency +dmg mods that you would need with nova knives to charge and one hit a heavy?
I'm still unclear how much damage charging NK does...
(Heavy has 1200hp) Prof 3, proto knives, and level 3 mini scout I believe.
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Bormir1r
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:48:00 -
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In a Minja proto suit you can OHKO heavies with proto NKs (no prof or damage mods) |
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:49:00 -
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:50:00 -
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With proficiency 5 proto minny skill and proto knives You will do 1428 damage a fully tanked heavy will still survive |
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An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:52:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:With proficiency 5 proto minny skill and proto knives You will do 1428 damage a fully tanked heavy will still survive This You pretty much have to carve them up like a ham.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:52:00 -
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With 1 out of 2 slashes i think min scout 5 with 1 cx mod and prof 3.
If you're good and can consistently hit both, min scout 3, 1 cx mod, and no prof on adv knives works.(my setup) though it leaves 200 or so HP left, so proto knives would be necessary.
Final verdict would be Op5, 1 cx mod, scout 3, and hit both swings.
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Bazookah Tooth
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:58:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:With 1 out of 2 slashes i think min scout 5 with 1 cx mod and prof 3.
If you're good and can consistently hit both, min scout 3, 1 cx mod, and no prof on adv knives works.(my setup) though it leaves 200 or so HP left, so proto knives would be necessary.
Final verdict would be Op5, 1 cx mod, scout 3, and hit both swings.
Ok thanks everyone!
Question for you, musturd, and anyone else... how much does charging the knives boost the damage? 2x? 4x?
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:00:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:With 1 out of 2 slashes i think min scout 5 with 1 cx mod and prof 3.
If you're good and can consistently hit both, min scout 3, 1 cx mod, and no prof on adv knives works.(my setup) though it leaves 200 or so HP left, so proto knives would be necessary.
Final verdict would be Op5, 1 cx mod, scout 3, and hit both swings. Ok thanks everyone! Question for you, musturd, and anyone else... how much does charging the knives boost the damage? 2x? 4x? I think its 2.5x or somewhere in that area |
Bazookah Tooth
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:06:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:With 1 out of 2 slashes i think min scout 5 with 1 cx mod and prof 3.
If you're good and can consistently hit both, min scout 3, 1 cx mod, and no prof on adv knives works.(my setup) though it leaves 200 or so HP left, so proto knives would be necessary.
Final verdict would be Op5, 1 cx mod, scout 3, and hit both swings. Ok thanks everyone! Question for you, musturd, and anyone else... how much does charging the knives boost the damage? 2x? 4x? I think its 2.5x or somewhere in that area
Hmm doesnt seem like much but thank you mr. musturd.
(Also my post got a reply from a master scout. *fist pump*)
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:06:00 -
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The only heavies you'll be OHKing will be heavies that are regen or speed tanked. A fully tanked/full health pro heavy will go down in a charge and a swipe or two from ishukones, proficiency 4, and min scout 5 though.
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:08:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:mr musturd wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:With 1 out of 2 slashes i think min scout 5 with 1 cx mod and prof 3.
If you're good and can consistently hit both, min scout 3, 1 cx mod, and no prof on adv knives works.(my setup) though it leaves 200 or so HP left, so proto knives would be necessary.
Final verdict would be Op5, 1 cx mod, scout 3, and hit both swings. Ok thanks everyone! Question for you, musturd, and anyone else... how much does charging the knives boost the damage? 2x? 4x? I think its 2.5x or somewhere in that area Hmm doesnt seem like much but thank you mr. musturd. (Also my post got a reply from a master scout. *fist pump*) The damage displayed is per knife per quick slash |
Bazookah Tooth
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:10:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The only heavies you'll be OHKing will be heavies that are regen or speed tanked. A fully tanked/full health pro heavy will go down in a charge and a swipe or two from ishukones, proficiency 4, and min scout 5 though.
Yea I'm mostly going after heavys with light weapons. They aren't usually fully tanked. Any heavys fully tanked have HMGs and yea... that's a losing battle.
I wish there was a way to take them out tho. Headshot maybe?
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:14:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The only heavies you'll be OHKing will be heavies that are regen or speed tanked. A fully tanked/full health pro heavy will go down in a charge and a swipe or two from ishukones, proficiency 4, and min scout 5 though. Yea I'm mostly going after heavys with light weapons. They aren't usually fully tanked. Any heavys fully tanked have HMGs and yea... that's a losing battle. I wish there was a way to take them out tho. Headshot maybe?
I don't think anyone really agrees whether the headshot bonus is applied w knives are not. Not sure. If I can I try to hit them in the face just in case.
For them fatties with light weapons, they're actually a lot easier to knife multiple times than heavies with HMGs. I'll fight a fatty with a rail rifle with my knives over a heavy with an HMG. You can strafe/dodge light weapon fire a lot easier than the spread of an HMG.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:16:00 -
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Here you go:
Proto knives:
200 damage per swipe x 2 swipes x 2 for charging = 800 damage
lvl 5 proficiency (x1.15) = 920 damage
lvl 5 minmatar scout (1.8 scout) [x 1.25)= 1150 damage
1 cmplx dmg mod (1150 x 1.1)= 1265
2 cmplx dmg mod (1150 x 1.187)= 1365
3 cmplx dmg mod (1150 x 1.244)= 1430
So there you go.
IDK if you can headshot people with NK or not though, so you may be able to squeeze out a little more.
(imagine if you could do 100% damage to vehicles with nova knives.... you could run around knifing tanks to death)
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Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:18:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The only heavies you'll be OHKing will be heavies that are regen or speed tanked. A fully tanked/full health pro heavy will go down in a charge and a swipe or two from ishukones, proficiency 4, and min scout 5 though. Yea I'm mostly going after heavys with light weapons. They aren't usually fully tanked. Any heavys fully tanked have HMGs and yea... that's a losing battle. I wish there was a way to take them out tho. Headshot maybe? I don't think anyone really agrees whether the headshot bonus is applied w knives are not. Not sure. If I can I try to hit them in the face just in case. For them fatties with light weapons, they're actually a lot easier to knife multiple times than heavies with HMGs. I'll fight a fatty with a rail rifle with my knives over a heavy with an HMG any day. You can strafe/dodge light weapon fire a lot easier than the spread of an HMG. This is all assuming you've got him flanked, he doesn't see you coming, etc etc.
I try and flank them, I even charge up and stab them and they just turn around and rr me. Its dissapointing. Its why I'm looking for info.
Also if anyone has info on kn and headshots it would be appreciated.
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:22:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:The only heavies you'll be OHKing will be heavies that are regen or speed tanked. A fully tanked/full health pro heavy will go down in a charge and a swipe or two from ishukones, proficiency 4, and min scout 5 though. Yea I'm mostly going after heavys with light weapons. They aren't usually fully tanked. Any heavys fully tanked have HMGs and yea... that's a losing battle. I wish there was a way to take them out tho. Headshot maybe? I don't think anyone really agrees whether the headshot bonus is applied w knives are not. Not sure. If I can I try to hit them in the face just in case. For them fatties with light weapons, they're actually a lot easier to knife multiple times than heavies with HMGs. I'll fight a fatty with a rail rifle with my knives over a heavy with an HMG any day. You can strafe/dodge light weapon fire a lot easier than the spread of an HMG. This is all assuming you've got him flanked, he doesn't see you coming, etc etc. I try and flank them, I even charge up and stab them and they just turn around and rr me. Its dissapointing. Its why I'm looking for info. Also if anyone has info on kn and headshots it would be appreciated. All I can say is it gives the headshot noise but not the points as far as damage its a mystery |
Bazookah Tooth
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:24:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Here you go:
Proto knives:
200 damage per swipe x 2 swipes x 2 for charging = 800 damage
lvl 5 proficiency (x1.15) = 920 damage
lvl 5 minmatar scout (1.8 scout) [x 1.25)= 1150 damage
1 cmplx dmg mod (1150 x 1.1)= 1265
2 cmplx dmg mod (1150 x 1.187)= 1365
3 cmplx dmg mod (1150 x 1.244)= 1430
So there you go.
IDK if you can headshot people with NK or not though, so you may be able to squeeze out a little more.
(imagine if you could do 100% damage to vehicles with nova knives.... you could run around knifing tanks to death)
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Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:27:00 -
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So using zn28 makes OHKO a heavy dam near impossible... meh
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:30:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:So using zn28 makes OHKO a heavy dam near impossible... meh If they aren't fully tanked and you have proficiency and or damage mods its not impossible |
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Bazookah Tooth
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:38:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:So using zn28 makes OHKO a heavy dam near impossible... meh If they aren't fully tanked and you have proficiency and or damage mods its not impossible
Ill keep working on it for sure, I want to get to that point. Other question if that's ok... Have you ever been chasing someone and somehow suddenly they are behind you? Is this my fault and maybe a rule I should be following to prevent that?
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mr musturd
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:44:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:mr musturd wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:So using zn28 makes OHKO a heavy dam near impossible... meh If they aren't fully tanked and you have proficiency and or damage mods its not impossible Ill keep working on it for sure, I want to get to that point. Other question if that's ok... Have you ever been chasing someone and somehow suddenly they are behind you? Is this my fault and maybe a rule I should be following to prevent that? That's probably lag related but my number one rule is I never chase a knife kill if its easier to shoot the person I use the gun, chasing reds normally puts you in a bad spot. I use my knife when I have the flank and my enemy is unaware. Trust me not chasing a knife kill will keep you alive longer. |
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