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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:49:00 -
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Seriously. I often see 1700-2000 shield or smth like this pythons. Overwall whats the point of making 'one shoot' DSs? |
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:53:00 -
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Pythons can't have that much shields, like around 3000k max. I think anyways. But that doesn't include hardeners, or a booster. Plus they only have three high slots. Not much room for additional hp Mine only can fit an enhanced heavy shield extender. Then boost and a hardener...
FAME
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
86
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:58:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:Pythons can't have that much shields, like around 3000k max. I think anyways. But that doesn't include hardeners, or a booster. Plus they only have three high slots. Not much room for additional hp
Still dunno why people want to fly them (ik about missiles bonus, manevr etc). They are 1-2shooted, maybe 3 with hards. |
ishtellian
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.06 03:04:00 -
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Dual hardened pythons can take a good few hits, but the problem is hardeners cant be on forever, so they turn them on when they need to but a railgun will completely wipe out the pythons shields, and then the hardeners are useless. Also,if youve seen a fully skilled python its something to fear 50%RoF bonus, 10% damage bonus and proto launchers. it only takes one shot to kill something that isnt a heavy and the RoF is insane when you see it.
My Heavy Never Dies.
Logibro In training.
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Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
345
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Posted - 2014.02.06 03:06:00 -
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With triple damage mods and a proto turret, a rail tank can achieve about 3300 damage a shot. Alpha'ing an assault dropship is the only reliable way to kill one in the hands of a good pilot. Full damage fitted tanks are rare, and any other tank gives pretty much every ADS the opportunity to speed away too quickly to track with any certainty.
When you can almost always survive, you gain little benefit from more tank. Once you're fit "good enough," you fit for utility.
e: It is important to notice that railguns, being hybrid weapons, do 10% less damage to shields, as well. |
Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
869
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Posted - 2014.02.06 03:11:00 -
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it's because with shield vehicles, raw tank is not a viable kind of tanking at all. they have lower HP, but stupidly powerful hardeners, you're supposed to trip your hardeners just before you expect to take damage which multiplies your tank by just over double while it's active, then leave after you've killed whatever you came to kill before they go down.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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WolfeXXVII
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:10:00 -
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ishtellian wrote:Dual hardened pythons can take a good few hits, but the problem is hardeners cant be on forever, so they turn them on when they need to but a railgun will completely wipe out the pythons shields, and then the hardeners are useless. Also,if youve seen a fully skilled python its something to fear 50%RoF bonus, 10% damage bonus and proto launchers. it only takes one shot to kill something that isnt a heavy and the RoF is insane when you see it.
I drive my python 2 proto hardeners and a proto after burner plus a proto light armor rep. So I just boost my way to the flying ceiling so I can't be shot and wait till my hardeners are back and sit around and kill people again wash rinse and repeat (mt-1 missle launcher so its only like 400k a pop)
gk.0 scout 4 the win
Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting,SP from all characters:-113,895,000-
CLOSED BETA VET.
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
881
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:16:00 -
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1 shield hardener give a stock python 3800 shield hp.
Dropship Specialist
Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 3 Gêå1; Other DS: 31 Gêå2; Tanks: 33 Gêå2
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
881
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:18:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:Pythons can't have that much shields, like around 3000k max. I think anyways. But that doesn't include hardeners, or a booster. Plus they only have three high slots. Not much room for additional hp Still dunno why people want to fly them (ik about missiles bonus, manevr etc). They are 1-2shooted, maybe 3 with hards. My speed tanked fit (extenders and AB) can tank 1-2 rail shots, but usually relies on speed to dodge further damage (works quite well). My tankiest dropship as about 12k shield ehp fully hardened.
Dropship Specialist
Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 3 Gêå1; Other DS: 31 Gêå2; Tanks: 33 Gêå2
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10611
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:38:00 -
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WolfeXXVII wrote:ishtellian wrote:Dual hardened pythons can take a good few hits, but the problem is hardeners cant be on forever, so they turn them on when they need to but a railgun will completely wipe out the pythons shields, and then the hardeners are useless. Also,if youve seen a fully skilled python its something to fear 50%RoF bonus, 10% damage bonus and proto launchers. it only takes one shot to kill something that isnt a heavy and the RoF is insane when you see it. I drive my python 2 proto hardeners and a proto after burner plus a proto light armor rep. So I just boost my way to the flying ceiling so I can't be shot and wait till my hardeners are back and sit around and kill people again wash rinse and repeat (mt-1 missle launcher so its only like 400k a pop) I hunt people like you with my railgun Incubus
You are my favorite prey
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Serimos Haeraven
The Exemplars Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.06 07:12:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:WolfeXXVII wrote:ishtellian wrote:Dual hardened pythons can take a good few hits, but the problem is hardeners cant be on forever, so they turn them on when they need to but a railgun will completely wipe out the pythons shields, and then the hardeners are useless. Also,if youve seen a fully skilled python its something to fear 50%RoF bonus, 10% damage bonus and proto launchers. it only takes one shot to kill something that isnt a heavy and the RoF is insane when you see it. I drive my python 2 proto hardeners and a proto after burner plus a proto light armor rep. So I just boost my way to the flying ceiling so I can't be shot and wait till my hardeners are back and sit around and kill people again wash rinse and repeat (mt-1 missle launcher so its only like 400k a pop) I hunt people like you with my railgun Incubus You are my favorite prey Lol, I think hardners aren't smart if you want your dropship to survive ALL forms of possible combat, like Dust Fiend on your ass shooting you with a railgun incubus, AS WELL AS a railgun trying to take you out.
I've found that Complex Shield Extenders are best for handling all these situations.
Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship.
Many of them don't survive.
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Billi Gene
474
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Posted - 2014.02.06 07:20:00 -
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Vehicle Alt:
enhanced heavy shield extender 2x enhanced shield hardeners iirc: enhanced 60mm plate
at-2 MT
2555 shields, 1500=/= armor unhardened 3888 shields with 1x hardener cycle hardeners or stack as needed... but always enter with one running.
drop suit fitting has militia repair tool.
Dropship cost: 416k isk Drop suit cost: 17k isk
swarms are like fleas, Forge are naughty kittens, MLT rail unbonused are annoying, MLT rail with 2xD-mods scare the hell outa me....
I lose ADS here and there, but only because I'm so pig headed and refuse to send them back via RDV.
Running redline gunnlogi's pays for it all >;) and serves as sweet revenge on all noobtanks. (current record being 2 soma's and a sica in less then 10 seconds from one rail clip... huzzah).
Caldari FW proto rails cuts costs btw :D
Pedant, Ape, Troll.
My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
954
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Posted - 2014.02.06 08:51:00 -
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because afterburners are essential to not dieing.
wich leaves 2 high slots, for either 1 large extender + hardener or two hardeners.
an python without an afterburner is a sitting duck and easily tracked by forges and rails, but with an afterburner on you can speed tank AV to avoid damage, its built like a getto minmatar dropship. |
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