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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:43:00 -
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The Recruit is supposed to bring a slight buff, but it doesn't.
Almost everything on the two is the same. That's not a problem. The problem is that the Recruit deals LESS damage than the Militia Variant, and yet has the same fitting cost. I'm looking right now. Recruit Damage: 21.50. Militia Damage: 23.00.
This goes against the description.
The Recruit AR doesn't have this problem.
Recruit AR:34.68
Militia AR: 34.00
So... what gives?
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
242
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:46:00 -
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Get ready to be disappointed because CCP doesn't fix BPOs apparently. People have been waiting 8+ months for a fix to Dren equipment, and CCP even messed up the templar pistol too. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
640
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:48:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Get ready to be disappointed because CCP doesn't fix BPOs apparently. People have been waiting 8+ months for a fix to Dren equipment, and CCP even messed up the templar pistol too.
To be honest, I don't care, The character i question uses Scrambler Pistols, but still.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.02.05 06:01:00 -
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I'm bumping this because this needs some more insight.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.05 06:31:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:I'm bumping this because this needs some more insight.
This has been brought up in context of other BPOs with wrong stats actually (various threads), and it's never received comment. It's interesting really, that one of your "rewards" for a recruit would effectively cripple them by giving them the worst possible weapon.
As an interesting side note, the reduced damage on the Recruit SMG is such that:
Recruit SMG + ADV Sidearm Damage Mod = LESS THAN MILITIA SMG DAMAGE
Recruit SMG + 2X STD Sidearm Damage Mod = LESS THAN MILITIA SMG DAMAGE
That's how much it sucks. Mind you, the difference between a STD and an ADV weapon is 5% (same as an ADV damage mod), so the gap between the Recruit SMG and the Militia SMG is bigger than that. It needs about a 7% damage bonus to perform on the same level as MLT.
Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
643
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Posted - 2014.02.05 07:14:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:I'm bumping this because this needs some more insight. This has been brought up in context of other BPOs with wrong stats actually (various threads), and it's never received comment. It's interesting really, that one of your "rewards" for a recruit would effectively cripple them by giving them the worst possible weapon. As an interesting side note, the reduced damage on the Recruit SMG is such that: Recruit SMG + ADV Sidearm Damage Mod = LESS THAN MILITIA SMG DAMAGE Recruit SMG + 2X STD Sidearm Damage Mod = LESS THAN MILITIA SMG DAMAGE That's how much it sucks. Mind you, the difference between a STD and an ADV weapon is 5% (same as an ADV damage mod), so the gap between the Recruit SMG and the Militia SMG is bigger than that. It needs about a 7% damage bonus to perform on the same level as MLT.
The only thing that keeps it from sucking completely is that it is permanent, as it's a BPO. But you might as well buy the MLT for the low price than this crap. Increase the damage, CCP, by +3% of the MLT SMG and it'll be worthwhile, seriously. Or is this merely an oversight?
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1124
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Posted - 2014.02.05 09:04:00 -
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+1 to this thread. This is something that should have been fixed a long time ago. The recruit SMG should recieve the same damage buff as the recruit AR (2%). CCP please increase the damage of the RSMG to 23.46. It has been neglected long enough now. As well this should be a thing with all the recruit items. I don't know the stats for the recruit SP, SR or LR but they should also follow this same pattern: militia grade + 2% damage buff
Also make the stats for the Dren scrambler pistol, the templar scrambler pistol, the Dren swarm launcher and whatever else I'm missing, into standard tier stats, just like the exile and Dren AR, the Dren SG, the templar ScR, the Templar LR, and what ever else I am missing. There is absolutely no reason why this should not have been done in the first place. It is very frustrating that this was not done right the first time.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3041
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Posted - 2014.02.05 09:23:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Get ready to be disappointed because CCP doesn't fix BPOs apparently. People have been waiting 8+ months for a fix to Dren equipment, and CCP even messed up the templar pistol too.
They have said the Scrambler screw up is "by design", which to me means "now that we've decided we don't like BPOs, we ain't fixing bupkis."
No.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
858
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Posted - 2014.02.05 09:55:00 -
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Lotta BPOs are fu**ed. Take a look at the militia suit BPOs the Eon heavy and the other variants, theyre all supposed to be different colors like they were in chrome, but CCP said F*ck it we're lazy and never gave them the correct colors and just left them the same as the MLT variants.
The badass look of the Eon heavy is a lot of the reason I bought it, and then they nerfed the color pallet of all suits for uprising, just like they nerfed everything they possibly could.
Gallente starter fit w/ 3 complex armor plates has more HP than any proto shield suit with all complex shield extenders
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