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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2036
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:29:00 -
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Personally, I do not understand why these boosters are not on the market full time...
I have brought some fresh blood to Dust (ex CS and BF3 players) and it kinda irks me that I will have to wait 2-3 months of straight grinding before it is even possible to participate in PC. These players are more than willing to buy omegas.
Honestly, what is the deal?
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
307
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:34:00 -
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You can't have 2 types of boosters available at all times. Too many people will complain about pay to win at that point. |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:35:00 -
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I'm sure I remember seeing 30, 60 and 90 day variants in the item description box  . I'd love Omegas 24/7.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Ripley Riley
468
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:37:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:it kinda irks me that I will have to wait 2-3 months of straight grinding before it is even possible to participate in PC.
Where does it say "You must have X SP before you may enter a PC match"?
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2036
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:39:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:You can't have 2 types of boosters available at all times. Too many people will complain about pay to win at that point.
Honestly, I have about 38 mill SP nothing I can do will make assault suit better stat wise only more flexible.
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
440
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:39:00 -
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Because supply and demand? Ccp can artificially reduce supply so when omegas go on the market people actually buy them because they don't want to miss out. It's obvious, use your head. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
10587
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:39:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:it kinda irks me that I will have to wait 2-3 months of straight grinding before it is even possible to participate in PC. Where does it say "You must have X SP before you may enter a PC match"?
No competitive corp is going to let you into a PC match without at least one full proto fit with your upgrades maxed or near maxed.
I think boosters in general are silly though, but they're not going anywhere fast.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2036
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:40:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:it kinda irks me that I will have to wait 2-3 months of straight grinding before it is even possible to participate in PC. Where does it say "You must have X SP before you may enter a PC match"?
Edited due to poor literacy
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
307
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:46:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:You can't have 2 types of boosters available at all times. Too many people will complain about pay to win at that point. Honestly, I have about 38 mill SP nothing I can do will make assault suit better stat wise only more flexible.
Yeah, but its not necessarily about you. Its about the peon with 2mil SP who plays this game for free and whose only chance to "git gud" is to pay money to level faster.
I'm on your side in this argument, If you have a game based on microtransactions, then sell baby sell. But the silent majority out there that doesn't spend money on this game would cry foul that we have an unfair advantage because we chose to spend money on boosters instead of grinding it out the slow way. |
ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2036
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:47:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:You can't have 2 types of boosters available at all times. Too many people will complain about pay to win at that point. Honestly, I have about 38 mill SP nothing I can do will make assault suit better stat wise only more flexible. Yeah, but its not necessarily about you. Its about the peon with 2mil SP who plays this game for free and whose only chance to "git gud" is to pay money to level faster. I'm on your side in this argument, If you have a game based on microtransactions, then sell baby sell. But the silent majority out there that doesn't spend money on this game would cry foul that we have an unfair advantage because we chose to spend money on boosters instead of grinding it out the slow way.
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Ripley Riley
468
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:47:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:No competitive corp is going to let you into a PC match without at least one full proto fit with your upgrades maxed or near maxed.
So get your prototype dropsuit and weapon of choice (the only things people see) and get the rest at the pace you are comfortable with. Tell them whatever they need to hear to let you into the PC match.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2038
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:55:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:No competitive corp is going to let you into a PC match without at least one full proto fit with your upgrades maxed or near maxed. So get your prototype dropsuit and weapon of choice (the only things people see) and get the rest at the pace you are comfortable with. Tell them whatever they need to hear to let you into the PC match.
with Passive and Active Boosters
Proto Suit = 1 month ish
Proto Weapon = Week and half ish
Furthermore, if you're in role like slaying, and you're going double negative, I will bench them.
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Blaze Ashra
DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
174
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:59:00 -
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I'd be happy with this. Would like to finally break 10 million.
If it was pay to win, they would have an AUR token to reset the weekly cap.
Life stops when you stop dreaming, hope ends when you stop believing, love ends when you stop caring.
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Ripley Riley
468
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:06:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Proto Suit = 1 month ish
Proto Weapon = Week and half ish[/quote]
True and true... I've seen waaay longer grinds than that.
ReGnYuM wrote:Furthermore, if you're in role like slaying, and you're going double negative, I will bench them.
Take your pick: get gud or l2play
I have a guy in my corp with less than 3mil SP in my corp that does extremely well for himself in a STD/ADV fitting. Having full prototype is not an I win button, it just gives you an edge. Working well with your squad and good squad composition win every day.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
166
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:37:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:it kinda irks me that I will have to wait 2-3 months of straight grinding before it is even possible to participate in PC. Where does it say "You must have X SP before you may enter a PC match"?
^^^ "BRING ME UR N00B SO I CAN KILL HIM!" ... F+£+çKING IDIOT
Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
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53,765,260 SP
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Aqua-Regia
663
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:58:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:You can't have 2 types of boosters available at all times. Too many people will complain about pay to win at that point. Honestly, I have about 38 mill SP nothing I can do will make assault suit better stat wise only more flexible. Yeah, but its not necessarily about you. Its about the peon with 2mil SP who plays this game for free and whose only chance to "git gud" is to pay money to level faster. I'm on your side in this argument, If you have a game based on microtransactions, then sell baby sell. But the silent majority out there that doesn't spend money on this game would cry foul that we have an unfair advantage because we chose to spend money on boosters instead of grinding it out the slow way.
... Hmmm.
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
124
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:38:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Proto Suit = 1 month ish
Proto Weapon = Week and half ish True and true... I've seen waaay longer grinds than that. ReGnYuM wrote:Furthermore, if you're in role like slaying, and you're going double negative, I will bench them. Take your pick: get gud or l2play I have a guy in my corp with less than 3mil SP in my corp that does extremely well for himself in a STD/ADV fitting. Having full prototype is not an I win button, it just gives you an edge. Working well with your squad and good squad composition win every day.
I agree that SP isn't everything, but SP differences tend to be compounded rather than alleviated by the high quality of overall play that you tend to see in top level PC matches. Assuming equal levels of playing skill, even relatively small differences in stats due to SP will have large effects, partly because life/death are discreet/binary. The higher SP side will win the majority of early engagements, the logis will rep and reload everyone, the heavys will get into good defensive positions, the higher SP side will have more uplinks and better placement due to winning early engagements/getting there faster/killing faster/having better equipment and the lower SP side will find itself in increasingly disadvantaged situations. I liken it to models of biological fitness where very small differences in fitness can produce profound results with regard to population outcomes. All of this without even considering the flexibility provided by higher SP or how higher SP players tend to aggregate in a small number of corps. I'm not sure a great player with 3mil SP can consistently win 1v1 against a very good player with 20mil+. I'd wouldn't have a problem with omegas being available full time as it would give the dedicated new player (who has a bit of money to spend) a way be competitive faster. I'd buy and run them all the time just so I could try out some new suits.
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