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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:32:00 -
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It solves nothing
It makes boring games more boring
It encourages low skill low risk high reward tactics
It is a ******* plague
That is ******* all
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2356
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:35:00 -
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My KDR goes down during red lines, i get bored and do stupid stuff like try to fly a dropship(it never ends well)...
Buying EVE CE codes for Dust ISK
Corp services
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Infamous Erich
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:36:00 -
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Play ambush?
Closed Beta Vet
Shield Tank Vet
Bring back my Sagaris
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
10561
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:37:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:Play ambush?
I'd rather cut out my intestines with a wet noodle than play NYANSPAMBUSH
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:42:00 -
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Please propose an alternative mechanism that would:
- not make spawn camping a way of life
- not take all of the hamster power CCP has available for programming
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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Amarr victor!
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
10563
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:43:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Please propose an alternative mechanism that would:
- not make spawn camping a way of life
- not take all of the hamster power CCP has available for programming
I have, tons of times
This thread is not about that ****. I'm ******* tired of suggesting how CCP fix their ******* game. This is about rage and hatred and drowned puppies that never got to be police dogs.
**** the damn redline and the ******* stupid ass railguns that call it's festering glory home
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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McFurious
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:44:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Please propose an alternative mechanism that would:
- not make spawn camping a way of life
- not take all of the hamster power CCP has available for programming
If team does not control any objectives for 5 minutes they forfeit and the game ends.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Adelia Lafayette
Science For Death
598
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Please propose an alternative mechanism that would:
- not make spawn camping a way of life
- not take all of the hamster power CCP has available for programming I have, tons of times This thread is not about that ****. I'm ******* tired of suggesting how CCP fix their ******* game. This is about rage and hatred and drowned puppies that never got to be police dogs. **** the damn redline and the ******* stupid *** railguns that call its festering glory home
whats worse? A redline railtank or a redline rail installation?
Assault dropship gets blown up....
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
10563
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:47:00 -
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Adelia Lafayette wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Please propose an alternative mechanism that would:
- not make spawn camping a way of life
- not take all of the hamster power CCP has available for programming I have, tons of times This thread is not about that ****. I'm ******* tired of suggesting how CCP fix their ******* game. This is about rage and hatred and drowned puppies that never got to be police dogs. **** the damn redline and the ******* stupid *** railguns that call its festering glory home whats worse? A redline railtank or a redline rail installation?
They're both a ******* plague, but at the least the installation was pre programmed to be there.
You can't program stupid, and that's where redline railtanks come in.
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
414
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:52:00 -
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Pyrex had a good idea, put a big ass barrier at the base spawn locations, no-one can shoot into them, no-one can shoot out, then you can gather the troops, call in vehicles, get ready for a big ass push out of the red line.
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:57:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Pyrex had a good idea, put a big ass barrier at the base spawn locations, no-one can shoot into them, no-one can shoot out, then you can gather the troops, call in vehicles, get ready for a big ass push out of the red line.
Kinda like PS2.
Except the problem with PS2 is that spawn-camping is a major freaking problem. |
Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.04 06:08:00 -
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Can you post a few links of your alternatives?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.04 06:17:00 -
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Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.02.04 06:59:00 -
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Don't reward people that are in their redline. No warpoints, no kills.
Remove the redlines from PC and FW (they can leave in the shared redline as a boundary).
Add some kind of forfeit mechanic to PC and FW. Say when a team gets redlined 5 minutes without a point or something as McFurious said.
As for the turrets on the map something needs to be done about them anyway. Turrets are just warpoint pi+¦atas. Redline railguns are silly. |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
407
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:It solves nothing
It makes boring games more boring
It encourages low skill low risk high reward tactics
It is a ******* plague
That is ******* all
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Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
1308
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:12:00 -
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Railguns and sniper rifles need to have fall off at around 200 meters or so. Enough so that they will be able to easily defend an objective, while making it difficult to deny air/ground space everywhere their line of sight permits.
Then Increase the critical damage bonus so that skilled players will be able to be effective at longer ranges.
The PC and SL should fit into the Sidearm slot so it's accessible and practical to carry one.
AV spam vs V spam
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zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
382
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:22:00 -
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How original and intelligent. Congratulations.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2540
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:33:00 -
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Actually without the redline its even worse.
You either park up under their MCC and kill those that jump or camp their ground spawn, if you don't do this then others do so you may as well join in.
For a few days or about a week of when open beta went live I remember doing this. Or the redline was that small it seemed that way, it was ridiculous seriously. Doing it or getting buggered by it either way was pure rubbish.
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Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
417
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:35:00 -
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Honestly I don't know why the redline is in the game to begin with, this is something a mobile MCC could fix but that hasn't happened since the alpha.
If we must have it then it needs to be tweaked, put it further into the battlefield and have the MCC fire at anyone that comes within range with some auto turret (I'm guessing this is what actual turret installations were meant to do but they can't aim for crap against anything but vehicles) this way it's an actual deterrent and not just a warning.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:44:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Honestly I don't know why the redline is in the game to begin with, this is something a mobile MCC could fix but that hasn't happened since the alpha.
If we must have it then it needs to be tweaked, put it further into the battlefield and have the MCC fire at anyone that comes within range with some auto turret (I'm guessing this is what actual turret installations were meant to do but they can't aim for crap against anything but vehicles) this way it's an actual deterrent and not just a warning.
People would camp the spawns systematically as they do in ambush, it'd be simple to figure out the turret deterrent Max range and sit outside it, ccp had to re shape the terrain because camping was so bad.
I hate to say it but we really can't have cool or interactive things, people just abuse the sht out of them, people don't generally play games anymore, they exploit them until they get bored, and on and on that goes.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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