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Scott Knight
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Posted - 2014.02.03 21:07:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Reset doesn't even make any sense. Why would you want to start over from nothing? Even if you made bad investments, they are still something. create an email for an alt psn... play it SOLELY for 1 month, just as much as u would your main (DONT PLAY THE MAIN)... THEN , & ONLY THEN will u understand No... Just No.
I made an alt which is basically the same thing. You DO NOT NEED A RESET. You just need to practice more and figure out how to earn war points apart from just killing things. I still do about the same with my alt as my character with 12 million skill points.
And if you do a reset, then I better get a refund for every penny I've spent to earn my skill points.
Further, you would have to do a reset every three to six months. The game has only been around for about a year and people already have 30 mil+ If you do a reset then you might as well forget skill points completely and let everyone run proto gear right out of the gate. But those new players will still die a painful horrible death because it takes skill to play games. |
Scott Knight
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:31:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Scott Knight wrote:CaoticFox wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Reset doesn't even make any sense. Why would you want to start over from nothing? Even if you made bad investments, they are still something. create an email for an alt psn... play it SOLELY for 1 month, just as much as u would your main (DONT PLAY THE MAIN)... THEN , & ONLY THEN will u understand No... Just No. I made an alt which is basically the same thing. You DO NOT NEED A RESET. You just need to practice more and figure out how to earn war points apart from just killing things. I still do about the same with my alt as my character with 12 million skill points. And if you do a reset, then I better get a refund for every penny I've spent to earn my skill points. Further, you would have to do a reset every three to six months. The game has only been around for about a year and people already have 30 mil+ If you do a reset then you might as well forget skill points completely and let everyone run proto gear right out of the gate. But those new players will still die a painful horrible death because it takes skill to play games. practice more... LOL... 24mil SP (4PRO SUITS : ADV ALL WEAPONS "4PRO")... 2.0 kdr (LOGI) PRO ALL UPGRADES : ADV ALL EQUIPMENT... to think... some have over 6mil MORE than me... RE-SET!
Then why in the world do you need a reset? |
Scott Knight
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:38:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped.
Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?)
Soo... No.
Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. read the EULA, that you & EVERYONE agreed to... u cant sue, sew, sui, sioux, soo, nor siew
If the action is illegal you can sue regardless of the EULA
PLUS
Parents didn't sign the EULA and anyone under 18 can not under any circumstances agree to a contract. So if a parents money was spent on an item, they are not bound by the EULA, and anyone under 18 was not capable of agreeing to the contract in the first place, so lawsuits could still happen, especially from parents.
Further a lawsuit does not require that you actually be entitled to one. I could sue you right now for some silly reason and we would both go to court. Yes I would lose the lawsuit (I hope.. I mean a lady sued and won cause her coffee was hot) but it would still (if you were CCP) cost you a fortune in money. Especially if you are CCP and have to get an American Lawyer and so fourth.
Also there may be other countries where the EULA wouldn't allow the removal of services that were bought.
So you can not make a contract that contains something illegal. So if the court believes that buying a skill point booster and then having those skills gained removed, then CCP would be liable regardless of the EULA.
Not to mention no one in their right mind would ever buy a Booster from CCP again if everything was just going to be reset.
CCP would have to essentially refund every single booster that people bought, which would cost them a ton of money in the long run since that is the only reasonable thing to spend AUR on anyways. |
Scott Knight
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:44:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:[ the FIRST "WHY?" LOL... to BUILD a larger playerbase.. if it costs 20 whiney vets to gain 200 future vets.. "Lets do it LUNGER!" So you are telling me that if CCP resets the SP that you will knowingly buy boosters still? What if after you spend $2000 dollars they reset the game again? You can say good by to your 2k. Should have just bought a car. |
Scott Knight
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:46:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Scott Knight wrote:CaoticFox wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Honestly, a reset -might- be a good thing. Everyone's on the same level as each other, PC will be set level, FW will be even. Pubs won't be stomped.
Of course you'd be having a max exodus of players greater than Moses leading the Jews from Jerusalem.(i can say that, right?)
Soo... No.
Edit: not to mention the loss of boosters spent, which might start a large influx of lawsuits. read the EULA, that you & EVERYONE agreed to... u cant sue, sew, sui, sioux, soo, nor siew If the action is illegal you can sue regardless of the EULA PLUS Parents didn't sign the EULA and anyone under 18 can not under any circumstances agree to a contract. So if a parents money was spent on an item, they are not bound by the EULA, and anyone under 18 was not capable of agreeing to the contract in the first place, so lawsuits could still happen, especially from parents. Further a lawsuit does not require that you actually be entitled to one. I could sue you right now for some silly reason and we would both go to court. Yes I would lose the lawsuit (I hope.. I mean a lady sued and won cause her coffee was hot) but it would still (if you were CCP) cost you a fortune in money. Especially if you are CCP and have to get an American Lawyer and so fourth. Also there may be other countries where the EULA wouldn't allow the removal of services that were bought. So you can not make a contract that contains something illegal. So if the court believes that buying a skill point booster and then having those skills gained removed, then CCP would be liable regardless of the EULA. Not to mention no one in their right mind would ever buy a Booster from CCP again if everything was just going to be reset. CCP would have to essentially refund every single booster that people bought, which would cost them a ton of money in the long run since that is the only reasonable thing to spend AUR on anyways. u dont know ur laws very well... the 18- kid who accepts WITHOUT their parents permission is subject to fraud and forgery charges. IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE
Forgery and Fraud still does not protect CCP, and that is what we are talking about. CCP didn't even attempt to validate everyone was 18+ |
Scott Knight
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:59:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:Scott Knight wrote:CaoticFox wrote:[ the FIRST "WHY?" LOL... to BUILD a larger playerbase.. if it costs 20 whiney vets to gain 200 future vets.. "Lets do it LUNGER!" So you are telling me that if CCP resets the SP that you will knowingly buy boosters still? What if after you spend $2000 dollars they reset the game again? You can say good by to your 2k. Should have just bought a car. stopped spending ANYTHING after ^^^
So you want CCP to tick off us 20 whiny vets who actually spend money on this game to make someone who doesn't happy? Not going to happen. Honestly a reset is going to be out of the question.
A respec would be nice though. |
Scott Knight
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:33:00 -
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T8R Raid wrote:A reset would be hilarious. Surprisingly enough, probably the most effective way to get a larger player base. I'll miss the millions upon millsion of SP i've worked for. Might shed half a tear even. But for some new meat on the field? You guys are great and all, we've just been having the same fight for a year now. closed beta players got another year on that. They keep track of all your boosters and such, I'm sure they can give em to you again.
They wouldnt' do that, as it would literally keep them from earning money until everyone used up all those boosters. |
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