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Scott Knight
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:04:00 -
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I had a remote explosive out and was no where near it, further I didn't detonate it. Either someone on my own team or an opponent was responsible as I suddenly got a -50.
Can we possibly make it so that if another party explodes the explosive it doesn't penalize you? |
Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:59:00 -
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On the flip side, you are rewarded if an enemy kills themselves with it.
For a weapon that is (in this instance) entirely fire-and-forget, it should require careful placement, and in no way should you be able to spam them without penalty.
I can't spray my HMG for fear of killing blues and losing points, and so there is no legitimate reason as to why they should for some reason be exempt from the actual penalty from TKing.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
709
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Posted - 2014.02.01 16:58:00 -
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That's the risk of REs you have to take. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.02.01 17:06:00 -
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The ownership of the explosive should fall to those who activate it.
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Scott Knight
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.01 17:08:00 -
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No... I think it's okay to take -50+ if I detonate or shoot it. But I was entirely not responsible for the kill. It would be ridiculous to keep counting them and eventually kick a player who never controlled the donation of the device. |
Scott Knight
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.01 17:27:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:On the flip side, you are rewarded if an enemy kills themselves with it.
For a weapon that is (in this instance) entirely fire-and-forget, it should require careful placement, and in no way should you be able to spam them without penalty.
I can't spray my HMG for fear of killing blues and losing points, and so there is no legitimate reason as to why they should for some reason be exempt from the actual penalty from TKing.
It isn't spamming if you only have one out. I'm okay with a penalty if blues die when I hit the detonate button. It's more when a blue decides to shoot the explosive himself and it blows up in his face that I have an issue with the penalty. It's not like someone else can make you fire your HMG. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.02.01 17:37:00 -
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You are responsible for the kill. You did place it, after all.
Let's say I'm running my boundless HMG w/2x complex damage mods and proficiency 3; I'm dealing over 1k DPS. (I think? 19.8*2400/60*1.09*1.187 = 1025?)
You are in a scout suit and looking to troll. You see me firing mah gunz at the reds, and you jump in front of me with your untanked suit and are instantly eviscerated. You do this several times and I am booted for TK.
This is essentially the same situation.
One thing I've done in the past is place an RE on a red uplink. Now, when they're shooting them, people like to stand close so as not to waste ammunition. This ends poorly.
You placed the RE (or picked a stupid high amount of DPS to throw) and are responsible for whatever may happen as a result. Your REs are no less vulnerable to TK attempts than any other weapon, really, and as such, I don't feel they deserve any special consideration.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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