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larod3
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:23:00 -
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I dislike the fact that I have to create a new character because I cant respec my main character, this character... It ruins my gaming experience... You're killing me CCP I have fun playing Dust all we ask for is a Respec System it'll give your game better replay value trust me, I know people who stopped playing because no respec system who loves the game... That's all we need |
Squagga
The State Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:31:00 -
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I don't know why the hell you would make a new char just cause you can't get a respec. Just sounds moronical. I don't know why they ever gave us a respec ever, now it's something that people just say casually. Now if they were to give us a respec it should be like other MMOs. We have to pay a fee, roughly $30 US dollars or whatever currency you've got that would equivalent to that. Now the other thing, keep in mind I do not and have never played EVE, from what I heard they don't get respecs. They're ten year customers. That's monthly PAYING customers. If their not gettin a respec you better count your lucky stars
Reloading, the silent killer.
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:46:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I don't know why the hell you would make a new char just cause you can't get a respec. Just sounds moronical. I don't know why they ever gave us a respec ever, now it's something that people just say casually. Now if they were to give us a respec it should be like other MMOs. We have to pay a fee, roughly $30 US dollars or whatever currency you've got that would equivalent to that. Now the other thing, keep in mind I do not and have never played EVE, from what I heard they don't get respecs. They're ten year customers. That's monthly PAYING customers. If their not gettin a respec you better count your lucky stars
yea....got a point there
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:14:00 -
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The problem of respecs is that it undermines the whole concept of the skill system. If you could change your skills and specialties at a moment's notice, then why have skills at all?
I contribute nothing.
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
136
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:15:00 -
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In EVE you can buy characters though.
Didn't quite spec your guy right, go buy one that is right.
Want to completely change your play style, go buy a play style, people specialize in building them for specific tasks.
Give us to buy characters.. O the fun that would ensue.
P.A.I.R.- Pilot Against Invisible RDVs.
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Dagon Greyjoy
GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:31:00 -
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If you've outgrown your current play style, start working on putting SP into a new one. Your core skills are still there, making you better off than if you were to make a new character, and your old specialized SP aren't hurting you, even if you never use them. The entire point of skill points in New Eden is that there's diminishing rewards, giving you a hard cap on one playstyle and making older characters more versitile rather than stricly better than a relatively new character. Have a little patience and you'll be back in your proto gear on your new suit/weapon of choice.
If you've been hit with the nerf bat, hold onto those SP for the day CCP rebalances your suit or you feel nostalgic or whatever. But I've never heard of a respec in EVE, and they were done in DUST during the BETA. You may get your way once for 1.8, as there's SO MANY new suits, but don't expect them to make it a habit. For sake of balance, respec systems will never be added, I can say with like 99% confidence
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:38:00 -
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:39:00 -
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No. No respecs on demand.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:42:00 -
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larod3 wrote:I dislike the fact that I have to create a new character because I cant respec my main character, this character... It ruins my gaming experience... You're killing me CCP I have fun playing Dust all we ask for is a Respec System it'll give your game better replay value trust me, I know people who stopped playing because no respec system who loves the game... That's all we need
Yeah. You have to create twinks for a mere 500k SP instead of waiting 2 weeks? A respec system won't EVER happen. It would also suck big time. If you're lucky you MAY get a respec with 1.8
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6663
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:47:00 -
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low genius wrote:no, and use the search engine.
You have no idea how many times I had to stress that to people earlier.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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Ankbar Latrommi
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:49:00 -
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[-]frankly--go away.[/-] No, I don't want you to go away. But I do want you to come around, and leave the weak, instant gratification other MMOs have turned into behind.
This is an Eve game, and I want an Eve experience. No skill is ever wasted. If you are having problems with where you've put your SP, it is most likely *your* fault. Be patient, do more research, or get your ego out of things. Whatever the problem is. SP are never wasted*, it is only you who chooses not to use them.
(*at some point, assuming they eventually strive for bonuses on all skills like in Eve-O. Dropsuit Command, for instance, currently is a waste, but I'm betting one day it won't be.)
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
Eve> FPS
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Zene Ren
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:28:00 -
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there is no cap for SP that is why no one needs a respec you can have all you want only by playing the game longer if the SP numer was limited then by all means go ahead and whine for respec but there is no limit so NO
ps. not saying that after revamp of whole section of for instance suits that section should not be reseted for all players but in other cases NO
Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:28:00 -
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Ya wanna know what I guess I kinda forgot the fact that I've been playing this since they did wipes. Where we'd have to start all over again. Like this happened repeatedly. So here's me paying it forward. If any of you newberries are reading this and have any questions considering what to spec into I'd be glad to help. If I don't know about how to spec into .. let say heavys, I can definately point you to the right person. Also asking people on the forums, while possibly embarassing is a really good start. Lot's of good peeps here
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1882
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:44:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:In EVE you can buy characters though.
Didn't quite spec your guy right, go buy one that is right.
Want to completely change your play style, go buy a play style, people specialize in building them for specific tasks.
Give us to buy characters.. O the fun that would ensue. To be clear you can buy characters from other players so it's not as if you can simply pick up whatever you like whenever you like, and a well spec'ed character can potentially run billions of ISK. That being said, I'm fully in support of Dust opening up a character bazaar (and player market ).
As far as respecs are concerned there are a host of reasons why they're not a good idea in a game like Dust. What really needs to happen is a stronger focus on the NPE (new player experience) so that people can fully understand the choices they are making and from day one be informed of things like the value of spending SP on dropsuit upgrades (which apply to all infantry fittings) rather than focusing on a single weapon or suit which apply in a much more narrow context.
Also CCP needs to focus on more measured granulated changes rather than sweeping alterations so that players on the field experiences remain relevant for longer, it's hard for players to own the effects of their choices when the mechanics swing so wildly so often... but for that to happen we need a larger foundation of content (in every race) within the game. Hopefully once the 1.8 content is added (and the almost inevitable re-balance after 1.8 happens) we can have a more stable baseline to draw from.
Cheers, Cross
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:40:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:In EVE you can buy characters though.
Didn't quite spec your guy right, go buy one that is right.
Want to completely change your play style, go buy a play style, people specialize in building them for specific tasks.
Give us to buy characters.. O the fun that would ensue. To be clear you can buy characters from other players so it's not as if you can simply pick up whatever you like whenever you like, and a well spec'ed character can potentially run billions of ISK. That being said, I'm fully in support of Dust opening up a character bazaar (and player market ). As far as respecs are concerned there are a host of reasons why they're not a good idea in a game like Dust. What really needs to happen is a stronger focus on the NPE (new player experience) so that people can fully understand the choices they are making and from day one be informed of things like the value of spending SP on dropsuit upgrades (which apply to all infantry fittings) rather than focusing on a single weapon or suit which apply in a much more narrow context. Also CCP needs to focus on more measured granulated changes rather than sweeping alterations so that players on the field experiences remain relevant for longer, it's hard for players to own the effects of their choices when the mechanics swing so wildly so often... but for that to happen we need a larger foundation of content (in every race) within the game. Hopefully once the 1.8 content is added (and the almost inevitable re-balance after 1.8 happens) we can have a more stable baseline to draw from. Cheers, Cross
I agree. An overhauled New Player Experience is key to player retention while at the same time it helps players better understand and reinforce the point of accepting the consequences of your choices.
But to overhaul the NPE, I would recommend the following to CCP:
1. Add a shooting range or training simulator of sorts like Metal Gear's VR Training or America's Army Boot Camp training at least. 2. Get rid of the WP requirement to graduate from the Academy and turn the entire Academy into an actual Academy where you have to go through a long series of training to graduate.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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Artificer Ghost
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:46:00 -
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I don't really support a Respec System. Rather, I want a single, FINAL respec when 1.8 hits, and a respec to come along with any sweeping changes after that. You can't change bonuses, slots, and add weapons/suits without providing an infantry respec. They've changed too much to not give back SP.
~Art, CEO and DoE at Learning Coalition College, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Maken Tosch = 1000th Like!
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
695
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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:41:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cross Atu wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:In EVE you can buy characters though.
Didn't quite spec your guy right, go buy one that is right.
Want to completely change your play style, go buy a play style, people specialize in building them for specific tasks.
Give us to buy characters.. O the fun that would ensue. To be clear you can buy characters from other players so it's not as if you can simply pick up whatever you like whenever you like, and a well spec'ed character can potentially run billions of ISK. That being said, I'm fully in support of Dust opening up a character bazaar (and player market ). As far as respecs are concerned there are a host of reasons why they're not a good idea in a game like Dust. What really needs to happen is a stronger focus on the NPE (new player experience) so that people can fully understand the choices they are making and from day one be informed of things like the value of spending SP on dropsuit upgrades (which apply to all infantry fittings) rather than focusing on a single weapon or suit which apply in a much more narrow context. Also CCP needs to focus on more measured granulated changes rather than sweeping alterations so that players on the field experiences remain relevant for longer, it's hard for players to own the effects of their choices when the mechanics swing so wildly so often... but for that to happen we need a larger foundation of content (in every race) within the game. Hopefully once the 1.8 content is added (and the almost inevitable re-balance after 1.8 happens) we can have a more stable baseline to draw from. Cheers, Cross I agree. An overhauled New Player Experience is key to player retention while at the same time it helps players better understand and reinforce the point of accepting the consequences of your choices. But to overhaul the NPE, I would recommend the following to CCP: 1. Add a shooting range or training simulator of sorts like Metal Gear's VR Training or America's Army Boot Camp training at least. 2. Get rid of the WP requirement to graduate from the Academy and turn the entire Academy into an actual Academy where you have to go through a long series of training to graduate.
They said a while back that they was going to be working on the training room thing which would allow you to test out shop items before actually buying them. When will they implement it? Hell if I know.
As far as the academy goes I completely agree with you, period.
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1885
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Cross Atu wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:In EVE you can buy characters though.
Didn't quite spec your guy right, go buy one that is right.
Want to completely change your play style, go buy a play style, people specialize in building them for specific tasks.
Give us to buy characters.. O the fun that would ensue. To be clear you can buy characters from other players so it's not as if you can simply pick up whatever you like whenever you like, and a well spec'ed character can potentially run billions of ISK. That being said, I'm fully in support of Dust opening up a character bazaar (and player market ). As far as respecs are concerned there are a host of reasons why they're not a good idea in a game like Dust. What really needs to happen is a stronger focus on the NPE (new player experience) so that people can fully understand the choices they are making and from day one be informed of things like the value of spending SP on dropsuit upgrades (which apply to all infantry fittings) rather than focusing on a single weapon or suit which apply in a much more narrow context. Also CCP needs to focus on more measured granulated changes rather than sweeping alterations so that players on the field experiences remain relevant for longer, it's hard for players to own the effects of their choices when the mechanics swing so wildly so often... but for that to happen we need a larger foundation of content (in every race) within the game. Hopefully once the 1.8 content is added (and the almost inevitable re-balance after 1.8 happens) we can have a more stable baseline to draw from. Cheers, Cross I agree. An overhauled New Player Experience is key to player retention while at the same time it helps players better understand and reinforce the point of accepting the consequences of your choices. But to overhaul the NPE, I would recommend the following to CCP: 1. Add a shooting range or training simulator of sorts like Metal Gear's VR Training or America's Army Boot Camp training at least. 2. Get rid of the WP requirement to graduate from the Academy and turn the entire Academy into an actual Academy where you have to go through a long series of training to graduate. +1
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Spectre-M
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
235
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Posted - 2014.02.01 07:25:00 -
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Create an alternate psn account. Turn on passive sp on a single character and don't spend one point. Create 2 alts and send all isk to passive sp character. Biomass both and repeats in 48 hrs.
This will give you a backup account for yourself or one to sell later. The character will have a boatload of unspent sp and isk just waiting.
Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist
Minnmatar in Amarr Armor
I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
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