This might possibly be my first topic on the dust forums, I am not sure if I should be afraid or excited. Regardless of how I should feel I had an epiphany while reading several of the Tank threads littering the forums right now and felt it needed to be shared.

The topic of AV Grenades is a touchy one; should they kill tanks? Dropships? LAVs? Should they only be a hindrance, finisher, or area denial? Should they have any AI effect or solely be for AV. The community seems split on this subject and unable to find any common ground or compromise in any way.

While I think AV grenades should be a threat to any vehicle, especially since you give up one of the most effective weapons in the game to use them, but my idea is they can be a threat in a different way. Say for example, they work like chaff grenades from MGS4. If you hit a tank with them the Tank's HUD is scrambled and they cannot turn on modules; any module activated before you hit them however will be unaffected and remain active for its duration. This effect would last 10 seconds STD and increase 10 seconds each tier to about 30 seconds at PRO. This affect will also not be stackable so hitting a tank with three will not stall it for 1:30; any Av grenade used on an already affected tank would be a waste.

This would make AV Grenades a powerful opener that lets swarms and other AV do their job without worrying about hardeners or other Active modules. If this isn't enough to help balance make them stall or outright stop shield regen and armor repairs; if it is too much make infantry only carry one.

I would really like some community feedback to build and shape this from a rough idea into something workable for everyone. Individuals I'd really like some feedback on is Char, Atlim, Taka, Spkr, and True Adamance; I feel you are the most vocal about the issues with tanks but please try to keep it civil.

Well this is why I made this thread, for ideas how to balance them so they aren't I win buttons, but are useful AV that keep vehicle users on their toes. Any suggestions?

Also like I said any hardeners or modules that were active before the grenade hit wouldn't be effected in any way. Plus for a tanker to use AV grenades or anyone for that matter the Tank would have to be withing throwing distance; which they shouldn't ever be. only bad tankers role up another tanks ass during a fight or sit on top of infantry spawn points or buildings and smash helpless ground units.

I only Tank when I steal someone's tank, which is happening more and more lately. Getting rid of AV nades might be the answer or not but non vehicle users need a deterrent at least that isn't fully specced proto AV with damage mods. Something to keep tanks from Rolf stomping them with no chance of survival.

Although to keep things fair and positive your stasis grenades might be fun, mind explaining how they would work?

I see you point and thank you for being civil about it; perhaps the numbers I pulled from thin air are a bit much so lowering them would be necessary. However making the. Stackable is probably not a good idea, perhaps 5 STD, 10 ADV, and 15 PRO? With only one grenade to throw. Or 1 seconds for STD 3 for ADV and 5 for Pro and make them stackable?

Edit: fixed errors

Now your getting my idea, without your HUD you couldn't aim, turn on hardeners, or see your radar so you'd run am I right? This is the basic idea I had and I thought I had put that in clear enough terms, my apologies.