DUST Search - Why not make the RR like the sniper?

Miokai Zahou wrote:

The rr is fine as it is. Why not complain about the CR or the ScR then? They seem more OP to me as I found that I get out ranged against CR users and beaten in CQC as well! We need to find ways to nerf the CR oh I know why not give it a charge time of hmmmm least see oh .25 seconds before it fires, make it a single shot and give it overheat as well! That will make it fair then.

As I'm a shield user I find the SCR very OP because it can basically two shot a proto geared used at range and has a viable ability to kick ass in CQC aswell! It must be nerfed as well!! Let's make that gun carry less ammunition, take more heat when fired and have a very slow rate of fire!!

See? Now we are talking about it being fair now because all the rifles are very OP and when some random just has POINT the damn gun at someone it automatically kills the redberry!!! Who needs skill, aim and cover with a dash of team work to win a match!!! Apparently the rifles are shooooe OP that they do it for us while we afk in MCC!!!!! 11111!!!!!!"&$-ú-Ñ++-Ñ^+ù-ú$*=

Tl;dr You damn scrubs need to get gud and learn to play the game not the forum whine.

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Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 173	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:19:00 - [1] - Quote I don't understand why come the RR isn't like the sniper...up close you cant hit anything unless you get lucky/ aim down the sights... it so inaccurate in CQC that it doesn't even have a cross hair....why not just use the same mechanic on the Rail Rifle? It will still rock its role as a long range killer but suck horribly in CQC situations. Good idea or I have been cloned one to many times and its having effects on my brain... Edit: Sorry for making another Rail Rifle thread
Oswald Rehnquist 1178	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:25:00 - [2] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: I don't understand why come the RR isn't like the sniper...up close you cant hit anything unless you get lucky/ aim down the sights... it so inaccurate in CQC that it doesn't even have a cross hair....why not just use the same mechanic on the Rail Rifle? It will still rock its role as a long range killer but suck horribly in CQC situations. Good idea or I have been cloned one to many times and its having effects on my brain... Edit: Sorry for making another Rail Rifle thread I was going to make this same suggestion, but didn't really wanted to be bothered carrying it. But I agree, getting rid of the RR cross hairs is an interesting suggestion, it what makes the sniper hard to use as a shotgun, thus aiming down sights would be better which is easier to do from range. Though if your skilled enough you can shotgun with the sniper or use the RR in cqc Below 28 dB
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1675	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:31:00 - [3] - Quote Pin point cross hairs would fix a lot of CQC issue. Essentially use the problem that the HMG suffered from to fix the RR. Accuratly inaccurate in CQC, it would still be effective at long range where it is supposed to be. The HMG did not have the benefit of long range due to damage fall off, and lack of scoping. (perhaps a better zoom would be in order? It could work. KRRROOOOOOM
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 118	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:34:00 - [4] - Quote The RR is meant to be used like OP says, but the Assault RR (ARR) should benefit a better hip-fire accuracy due to its role. If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 173	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:40:00 - [5] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I was going to make this same suggestion, but didn't really wanted to be bothered carrying it, because its hard to say what's balanced when armor/shields aren't balanced. Getting rid of the RR cross hairs is an interesting suggestion, it what makes the sniper hard to use as a shotgun, thus aiming down sights would be better which is easier to do from range. Though if your skilled enough you can shotgun with the sniper or use the RR in cqc, but if we are doing that to the RR, then I think some range might be in order because the range is not far enough to justify the loss of cross hairs. Maybe a tad bit more range I think it might be fine where its at....if they implemented this I personally wouldn't complain most of the time I'm aiming down the sights of the gun cause I'm at a distance long/medium... if I go in CQC situations I rely on my sidearm so basically it wont effect me the slightest
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 173	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:45:00 - [6] - Quote Ghermard-ol Dizeriois wrote: The RR is meant to be used like OP says, but the Assault RR (ARR) should benefit a better hip-fire accuracy due to its role. ah the Assault Rail Rifle I totally forgot it existed ....I cant speak for this since I don't use it often but yeah your right its role is different from its standard variant so it should keep the cross hairs...I think most of the complaints were towards the standard variant cause it could easily out performed the assault variant in CQC.
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 114	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:52:00 - [7] - Quote The rr is fine as it is. Why not complain about the CR or the ScR then? They seem more OP to me as I found that I get out ranged against CR users and beaten in CQC as well! We need to find ways to nerf the CR oh I know why not give it a charge time of hmmmm least see oh .25 seconds before it fires, make it a single shot and give it overheat as well! That will make it fair then. As I'm a shield user I find the SCR very OP because it can basically two shot a proto geared used at range and has a viable ability to kick ass in CQC aswell! It must be nerfed as well!! Let's make that gun carry less ammunition, take more heat when fired and have a very slow rate of fire!! See? Now we are talking about it being fair now because all the rifles are very OP and when some random just has POINT the damn gun at someone it automatically kills the redberry!!! Who needs skill, aim and cover with a dash of team work to win a match!!! Apparently the rifles are shooooe OP that they do it for us while we afk in MCC!!!!! 11111!!!!!!"&$-ú-Ñ++-Ñ^+ù-ú$*= Tl;dr You damn scrubs need to get gud and learn to play the game not the forum whine. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Deviant Alt Nos Nothi 12	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:54:00 - [8] - Quote double post
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6350	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:58:00 - [9] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: I don't understand why come the RR isn't like the sniper...up close you cant hit anything unless you get lucky/ aim down the sights... it so inaccurate in CQC that it doesn't even have a cross hair....why not just use the same mechanic on the Rail Rifle? It will still rock its role as a long range killer but suck horribly in CQC situations. Good idea or I have been cloned one to many times and its having effects on my brain... Edit: Sorry for making another Rail Rifle thread Really because at any range I can mow down anyone with the RR.... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Oswald Rehnquist 1182	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:17:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Seigfried Warheit wrote: I don't understand why come the RR isn't like the sniper...up close you cant hit anything unless you get lucky/ aim down the sights... it so inaccurate in CQC that it doesn't even have a cross hair....why not just use the same mechanic on the Rail Rifle? It will still rock its role as a long range killer but suck horribly in CQC situations. Good idea or I have been cloned one to many times and its having effects on my brain... Edit: Sorry for making another Rail Rifle thread Really because at any range I can mow down anyone with the RR.... Its not quite as clear cut though, with the armor shield imbalance, but a range increase and a loss of crosshairs would amke it more lopsided and differ from the other rifles more. Below 28 dB

Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 174	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:23:00 - [11] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: The rr is fine as it is. Why not complain about the CR or the ScR then? They seem more OP to me as I found that I get out ranged against CR users and beaten in CQC as well! We need to find ways to nerf the CR oh I know why not give it a charge time of hmmmm least see oh .25 seconds before it fires, make it a single shot and give it overheat as well! That will make it fair then. As I'm a shield user I find the SCR very OP because it can basically two shot a proto geared used at range and has a viable ability to kick ass in CQC aswell! It must be nerfed as well!! Let's make that gun carry less ammunition, take more heat when fired and have a very slow rate of fire!! See? Now we are talking about it being fair now because all the rifles are very OP and when some random just has POINT the damn gun at someone it automatically kills the redberry!!! Who needs skill, aim and cover with a dash of team work to win a match!!! Apparently the rifles are shooooe OP that they do it for us while we afk in MCC!!!!! 11111!!!!!!"&$-ú-Ñ++-Ñ^+ù-ú$= Tl;dr You damn scrubs need to get gud and learn to play the game not the forum whine. Well getting pass all the nonsense wining for people saying to fix the rifles roles..... AR had its range toned down cause it is meant for CQC/Medium engagements not the long range it had...Rail Rifle is owning at CQC which should be the ARs/Combat Rifles domain so the RR needs to be fixed so its hard to use at CQC...perhaps removing cross hairs would be too much maybe just make it inaccurate at close ranges. Combat Rifle is a bit weird damage can be toned down a lil perhaps...it does seems to have longer range that it is meant for but that might be because of the sharpshoot skill it had some mean recoil but when you get to adv its recoil is not a issue anymore its needs that recoil back. Its able to to melt you in CQC which is good that is its role but near medium it should start to be shaky(literally and performance wise) but there is no shaking not "I cant kill *** at medium range" shaking just that it takes some skill to compensate for the recoil but since there is no recoil it doesn't have it. ScR I find very annoying cause Im Caldari user as well but not totally OP its mechanics can use some tweaking such as heat build up during charged shots so people wont just walk around with it fully charged so that whoever they encounter don't have a chance to react same thing with RR its CQC is too good for a weapon meant for long ranges so its hip fire accuracy needs to be toned down. Then again this is all my own views and others may find it to be totally wrong or somewhat right or "forum whine" as you put it Tl;dr I think your a scrub if you think we should just "HTFU" or "Deal with it" when it comes to some unbalanced aspects of the game.
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 174	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:26:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Seigfried Warheit wrote: I don't understand why come the RR isn't like the sniper...up close you cant hit anything unless you get lucky/ aim down the sights... it so inaccurate in CQC that it doesn't even have a cross hair....why not just use the same mechanic on the Rail Rifle? It will still rock its role as a long range killer but suck horribly in CQC situations. Good idea or I have been cloned one to many times and its having effects on my brain... Edit: Sorry for making another Rail Rifle thread Really because at any range I can mow down anyone with the RR.... "...up close you cant hit anything unless you get lucky/ aim down the sights... it so inaccurate in CQC that it doesn't even have a cross hair..." It is describing the sniper rifle not the Rail Rifle.
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 116	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:39:00 - [13] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Tl;dr I think your a scrub if you think we should just "HTFU" or "Deal with it" when it comes to some unbalanced aspects of the game. Thank you good sir for a reasonable detail into a more constructive thought out put than most whine threads about the RR but sadly no I am not a scrub as I've protoed out in in all the rifles and I had to learn them, understand the strengths and weakness for them all and I.... gosh did HTFU and adapted to the new 'gun(tank) game'. What disappointed me the most with people in this forum is to immediately cry out for 'nerf this nerf that' when it really it was all about 'HTFU' because they are a hell of a lot more dangerous rifles out there (I'm looking at you CR!) that are far more easier to use that brings the pain to both shield and armor. So please next time someone wants to go a scream nerf rifle X take a long hard look at yourself, your skills and ask if it is the equipment that is the issue or are you the issue.... except tanks. They need to worked on badly... I mean cheap spammable mlt tanks with double hardness on is.... blah. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 174	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:53:00 - [14] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: Thank you good sir for a reasonable detail into a more constructive thought out put than most whine threads about the RR but sadly no I am not a scrub as I've protoed out in in all the rifles and I had to learn them, understand the strengths and weakness for them all and I.... gosh did HTFU and adapted to the new 'gun(tank) game'. What disappointed me the most with people in this forum is to immediately cry out for 'nerf this nerf that' when it really it was all about 'HTFU' because the are a he'll of a lot more dangerous rifles out there (I'm looking at you CR!) that are far more easier to use that brings the pain to both shield and armor. So please next time someone wants to go a scream nerf rifle X take a long hard look at yourself, your skills and ask if it is the equipment that is the issue or are you the issue.... except tanks. They need to worked on badly... I mean cheap spammable mlt tanks with double hardness on is.... blah. I added that scrub bit cause I dont like being called a scrub :P ...well on your defense I did sorta sound like a common whiny scrub when I reread my OP. Also I dont think protoing your weapons makes you not a scrub..but that you took the time to understand each gun is what doesn't. Yeah people are a bit too quick on the gun to cry nerf
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 119	Posted - 2014.01.30 11:15:00 - [15] - Quote All weapons must be checked and tuned, but it is pointless to do it now that CCP has not released all of them yet. If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 310	Posted - 2014.01.30 11:57:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Seigfried Warheit wrote: I don't understand why come the RR isn't like the sniper...up close you cant hit anything unless you get lucky/ aim down the sights... it so inaccurate in CQC that it doesn't even have a cross hair....why not just use the same mechanic on the Rail Rifle? It will still rock its role as a long range killer but suck horribly in CQC situations. Good idea or I have been cloned one to many times and its having effects on my brain... Edit: Sorry for making another Rail Rifle thread Really because at any range I can mow down anyone with the RR.... Agreed. The guns aren't OP the people using them are. Pewpewpew.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 194	Posted - 2014.01.30 13:19:00 - [17] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: I don't understand why come the RR isn't like the sniper.] Cos it's an assault rifle not a sniper rifle dumbass!


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