yea give wtf 4th place , our timers are a little weird cuz we had to take a break from all the attacks we received this month, so don't advertise our name. Shhhh :) we will change them back to prime time soon.

Timers have a place in PC.
They protect small corps from getting demolished upon district ownership.
However, it allows for corps to extend beyond their reach. No corp can defend 60 district ongoing, so it makes sense to lock a good chunk of them. That is not playing fair. NS attacks unlocked districts, then refuses to allow theirs to be attacked.

They are perfectly capable of putting their districts on any timer, as they obviously obtained those districts on North American timers...

I think they just need to do away with back-to-back locking.
You lock for 12 hours, you have to wait another 12 hours before you can lock again. Simple solution.
Obtaining districts you're incapale of defending should have you lose that district. That's what PC is all about. The fact that NS owns like 1/3rd of PC is ridiculous, and should be impossible, because it is impossible.

I've sat through that entire starmap, every other day, and finding a district to attack at a decent time, that isn't against the big 3, all while making sure it lines up with your EvE support, is like threading a needle with a rope.


... all-in-all, bring back corp contracts... here's a link to support such a thing: LINK

What a disgrace PC has always been

I don't think you should be able to buy clone packs if you have a district.

go back to bed with cubs and the rest of the relics

Wouldn't stop them from being able to send clone pack attacks. They could just make an alt corp and ferry in 15, then pass off the district to the main corp once its been taken.

Rinse and repeat.

There is no doubt, but I don't think the district locking and such would be as necessary as it is now.

Corps like mine, Dark Legion, STB, Capital Acquisition, KEQ, and many other 2nd tier corps all have a similar plight. That comment might **** people off but if you have a recruiting thread you are more than likely a 2nd tier corp. The elite corps don't have recruiting threads, they snipe guys from our corps.

But back to the story. You train and recruit and bust your ass to get ready for PC. You get some land, you win some battles against corps in your tier. Then one of the corps you've beaten brings in ringers to protect their assets. Then you are on the radar. Elite corps come in and stomp your ass and take your districts. Then your PC players get discouraged, start pointing fingers, etc. Some corps disband, some guys just stick to pubs but stick with the corp, and lots of talented players just go to the elite corps doing the stomping.

Let's get one thing straight. You will NEVER see a competitive, vibrant PC environment if this cycle continues. If this small core of players at the top of the leaderboard are able to dominant a majority of the land with such a small amount of players it will NOT blossom for the lack of a better word.

The mechanics have to change. That's where the battles spinning up within an hour or so comes in. If you lose land overnight it matters little. You can just take some back the next day. It's still competitive, the top dogs will still be good and they can still get rich.

But you are all fooling yourselves here if you think it will ever become anything more than it is right now unless there is a way for the 2nd tier corps to operate without getting their faces stomped in and all assets removed within days.

Should the answer be to jump on the bandwagon? Join the new Eon and get carried to relevance? Call me crazy but I think it's more chicken **** to jump on the bandwagon than to lock districts.

This is a small community, there are a TON of players out there with 20 million or more SP and they are stuck grinding pubs and FW because the mechanics of PC make it TOO harsh for them to participate.

I mean let's be honest here. I can take 16 of my top guys and roll a majority of the corps that have districts in PC right now. But when facing AE, FA, or one of the NF ringer teams it's over within minutes. People don't even want to spawn in. The way it works with the timers it's just to easy to coordinate to have a 16 man all star team there. Making the battles spin up within an hour opens the door to more of the Dust playerbase and that is a GOOD THING.

OscarMike made a typical dickhead comment to one of my similar posts about any scrub getting into PC or whatever. But wouldn't that be better to have more people involved in PC?

There is no doubt, but I don't think the district locking and such would be as necessary as it is now.

Corps like mine, Dark Legion, STB, Capital Acquisition, KEQ, and many other 2nd tier corps all have a similar plight. That comment might **** people off but if you have a recruiting thread you are more than likely a 2nd tier corp. The elite corps don't have recruiting threads, they snipe guys from our corps.

But back to the story. You train and recruit and bust your ass to get ready for PC. You get some land, you win some battles against corps in your tier. Then one of the corps you've beaten brings in ringers to protect their assets. Then you are on the radar. Elite corps come in and stomp your ass and take your districts. Then your PC players get discouraged, start pointing fingers, etc. Some corps disband, some guys just stick to pubs but stick with the corp, and lots of talented players just go to the elite corps doing the stomping.

Let's get one thing straight. You will NEVER see a competitive, vibrant PC environment if this cycle continues. If this small core of players at the top of the leaderboard are able to dominant a majority of the land with such a small amount of players it will NOT blossom for the lack of a better word.

The mechanics have to change. That's where the battles spinning up within an hour or so comes in. If you lose land overnight it matters little. You can just take some back the next day. It's still competitive, the top dogs will still be good and they can still get rich.

But you are all fooling yourselves here if you think it will ever become anything more than it is right now unless there is a way for the 2nd tier corps to operate without getting their faces stomped in and all assets removed within days.

Should the answer be to jump on the bandwagon? Join the new Eon and get carried to relevance? Call me crazy but I think it's more chicken **** to jump on the bandwagon than to lock districts.

This is a small community, there are a TON of players out there with 20 million or more SP and they are stuck grinding pubs and FW because the mechanics of PC make it TOO harsh for them to participate.

I mean let's be honest here. I can take 16 of my top guys and roll a majority of the corps that have districts in PC right now. But when facing AE, FA, or one of the NF ringer teams it's over within minutes. People don't even want to spawn in. The way it works with the timers it's just to easy to coordinate to have a 16 man all star team there. Making the battles spin up within an hour opens the door to more of the Dust playerbase and that is a GOOD THING.

OscarMike made a typical dickhead comment to one of my similar posts about any scrub getting into PC or whatever. But wouldn't that be better to have more people involved in PC?

Why does everyone have to be selfish, different time zones so they have no balls and suck. Yet I bet you wouldn't put a timer for 3-4 AM where you live so why should anyone else?

Why does everyone have to be selfish, different time zones so they have no balls and suck. Yet I bet you wouldn't put a timer for 3-4 AM where you live so why should anyone else?

Why does everyone have to be selfish, different time zones so they have no balls and suck. Yet I bet you wouldn't put a timer for 3-4 AM where you live so why should anyone else?

My issue is they have an American player base like 12 guys so 12 guys who can easily defend the district plus they have players like Milkman if I run ambush I see him a lot so he's on all day in a full NS squad and they have teams to take US districts yet they can't defend 1 just 1 timer in the US timezone.

Everytime I see your name it reads "Heimdolla make ya holla"

Everyone is just jelly.. they've been in all the #1 alliances and have all the lands and nobody wants to wake up early.

I would do it. Get me some dunkin donuts for a dolla make ya holla and we good to go yo!

In the current state of PC there is no reason for them to adjust their timers because they suit their timezone, anyone who argues that specific point is just venting at the frustration of it.. imho.

The argument that they "shouldn't" be allowed to hold 60 whatever districts all on the same timer is a different story.. how they got to this point is a small piece of the puzzle. Gotta give them credit for making the right moves, staying far enough below the radar of other corporations with the ability to defeat them, and of course being able to win matches. They beat Godzilla, so is anyone surprised that they patiently grew to the position they are in now?

In the spirit of this thread tho..

I have a dream! That one day our playerbase is large enough that the dynamics of PC is changed to a more "real time" experience... matches that occur at a moments notice (or maybe 30 minutes or whatever) and those games last maybe an hour or two, people come and go, 1000's of clones, field commanders are calling in every favor they can to defend their planet... "please oh please SoTa PoP come heavy for us!"... "No you scum, its anime time.. check back in 1 hour /end transmission".... maybe the player count gets increased to 24v24 or 32v32, your best tanker's mom shuts off his PS3 because its dinner time and the tide of the battle is turned because your DS pilot had to take a dump and couldn't hold it anymore, dropping his controller and the screams, oh the horrible screams as the ship hurdles towards the ground as a relieved and loud "plop" can be heard over comms! The payout.. the monies... the greenbacks... would certainly need to be over 9,000 thousand to make this work!

In this world, PC plays you!