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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:16:00 -
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Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better.
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:30:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better.
That weakness vs armor man :/
The normal Scrambler Rifle is still awesome because of the alpha damage though. |
Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:35:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better. That weakness vs armor man :/ The normal Scrambler Rifle is still awesome because of the alpha damage though.
Yeah that's probably it.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:58:00 -
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CR is the bane of my existence :( never used the SCR.. don't laugh, I just got to duvolle AR like a month ago. still use the GEK a lot mostly... |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:03:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better. That weakness vs armor man :/ The normal Scrambler Rifle is still awesome because of the alpha damage though.
I wish I could use it I have a templar id love to use. I suck with it though. Any pointers for an SCR noob? - |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.25 21:38:00 -
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CR for life \o/
Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
515
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Posted - 2014.01.25 21:53:00 -
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excillon wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better. That weakness vs armor man :/ The normal Scrambler Rifle is still awesome because of the alpha damage though. I wish I could use it I have a templar id love to use. I suck with it though. Any pointers for an SCR noob? -
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.25 22:07:00 -
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excillon wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better. That weakness vs armor man :/ The normal Scrambler Rifle is still awesome because of the alpha damage though. I wish I could use it I have a templar id love to use. I suck with it though. Any pointers for an SCR noob? -
Yeah don't use the assault variant, tho the viziam seems op but that's cuz it can cut 900 armor 3-4 shots but I haven't used it so I can't say that it's op, scrap assault variant use charge followed by rapid fire shots
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.25 22:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:excillon wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better. That weakness vs armor man :/ The normal Scrambler Rifle is still awesome because of the alpha damage though. I wish I could use it I have a templar id love to use. I suck with it though. Any pointers for an SCR noob? - Yeah don't use the assault variant, tho the viziam seems op but that's cuz it can cut 900 armor 3-4 shots but I haven't used it so I can't say that it's op, scrap assault variant use charge followed by rapid fire shots
900 armor in 3-4 shots? Charged shots maybe? It's 80% efficiency vs armor.
Also unless you're Amarr Assault if you charge then rapid fire it will overheat on like the 4th shot.
I haven't calculated but I'm pretty sure it's more overall Damage before overheating if you bypass the charge shot altogether. |
Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1469
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Posted - 2014.01.25 22:27:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:excillon wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Am I the only one who finds this gun completely useless now? Good thing I got it to pro 5. Combat out ranges it somehow and is way better. That weakness vs armor man :/ The normal Scrambler Rifle is still awesome because of the alpha damage though. I wish I could use it I have a templar id love to use. I suck with it though. Any pointers for an SCR noob? - Yeah don't use the assault variant, tho the viziam seems op but that's cuz it can cut 900 armor 3-4 shots but I haven't used it so I can't say that it's op, scrap assault variant use charge followed by rapid fire shots 900 armor in 3-4 shots? Charged shots maybe? It's 80% efficiency vs armor. Also unless you're Amarr Assault if you charge then rapid fire it will overheat on like the 4th shot. I haven't calculated but I'm pretty sure it's more overall Damage before overheating if you bypass the charge shot altogether.
1st shot is charged the others are not
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
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Posted - 2014.01.25 22:32:00 -
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Still use assault and it does the job just fine. Peformance for me hasn't dropped at all. You have to have good gun game for the Imperial.
Oh right, btw...UFARA!!
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.25 23:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:
1st shot is charged the others are not
You can't do 900 armour damage with an SCR with 1 charge shot and 3-4 normals.
It simply isn't possible.
The first shot will get up to about 400 raw damage and subsequent shots will do 115 each if you're using a prof 5 Viziam with 3 damage mods. That's a total of 745 -raw- damage, before the armour resistance.
It can certainly kill 900 armour with a few more shots but unless you have the overheat bonus from the Amarr assault you'll overheat before getting through that armour if you lead with a charged.
Level 5 Proficiency 3 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1357
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Posted - 2014.01.25 23:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
1st shot is charged the others are not
You can't do 900 armour damage with an SCR with 1 charge shot and 3-4 normals. It simply isn't possible. The first shot will get up to about 400 raw damage and subsequent shots will do 115 each if you're using a prof 5 Viziam with 3 damage mods. That's a total of 745 -raw- damage, before the armour resistance. It can certainly kill 900 armour with a few more shots but unless you have the overheat bonus from the Amarr assault you'll overheat before getting through that armour if you lead with a charged.
Head shots?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.25 23:27:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
1st shot is charged the others are not
You can't do 900 armour damage with an SCR with 1 charge shot and 3-4 normals. It simply isn't possible. The first shot will get up to about 400 raw damage and subsequent shots will do 115 each if you're using a prof 5 Viziam with 3 damage mods. That's a total of 745 -raw- damage, before the armour resistance. It can certainly kill 900 armour with a few more shots but unless you have the overheat bonus from the Amarr assault you'll overheat before getting through that armour if you lead with a charged. Head shots?
I suppose that's faintly possible.
Multiply that raw damage by the headshot efficacy against armour, which is +30% and then we get 970 armour damage.
So yes, if you headshot every single shot before overheating you'll take out 900 armour. That is with prof 5 and triple damage mods, though. The Amarr assault can pull that off without overheating, but nothing else can.
Level 5 Proficiency 3 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1469
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Posted - 2014.01.25 23:39:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
1st shot is charged the others are not
You can't do 900 armour damage with an SCR with 1 charge shot and 3-4 normals. It simply isn't possible. The first shot will get up to about 400 raw damage and subsequent shots will do 115 each if you're using a prof 5 Viziam with 3 damage mods. That's a total of 745 -raw- damage, before the armour resistance. It can certainly kill 900 armour with a few more shots but unless you have the overheat bonus from the Amarr assault you'll overheat before getting through that armour if you lead with a charged.
Then explain how the viziam does it to my gal logi? I have never been standing still when being shot at so headshots would be hard. Maybe it's more but not humanly possible by how quick the shots are followed up by the charge.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.25 23:44:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
1st shot is charged the others are not
You can't do 900 armour damage with an SCR with 1 charge shot and 3-4 normals. It simply isn't possible. The first shot will get up to about 400 raw damage and subsequent shots will do 115 each if you're using a prof 5 Viziam with 3 damage mods. That's a total of 745 -raw- damage, before the armour resistance. It can certainly kill 900 armour with a few more shots but unless you have the overheat bonus from the Amarr assault you'll overheat before getting through that armour if you lead with a charged. Then explain how the viziam does it to my gal logi? I have never been standing still when being shot at so headshots would be hard. Maybe it's more but not humanly possible by how quick the shots are followed up by the charge.
Chances are you're getting hit by more than 3-4 shots.
Level 5 Proficiency 3 Forum Warrior
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
612
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Posted - 2014.01.26 00:03:00 -
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Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1470
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Posted - 2014.01.26 00:11:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more
Lol I have all rifles pro 5 I'd just rather watch anime than play games.
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
614
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Posted - 2014.01.26 00:12:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more Lol I have all rifles pro 5 I'd just rather watch anime than play games.
You've become like me. What are you watching?
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1470
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Posted - 2014.01.26 00:32:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more Lol I have all rifles pro 5 I'd just rather watch anime than play games. You've become like me. What are you watching?
Umm heaven's lost property, lol I want an angleoid who needs real women.
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.26 00:35:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more Lol I have all rifles pro 5 I'd just rather watch anime than play games. You've become like me. What are you watching? Umm heaven's lost property, lol I want an angleoid who needs real women.
Lol.
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
257
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Posted - 2014.01.26 01:09:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more Lol I have all rifles pro 5 I'd just rather watch anime than play games. You've become like me. What are you watching? Umm heaven's lost property, lol I want an angleoid who needs real women. Lol.
I wouldn't mind having nymph! So kawaii!! ^-^
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.26 01:20:00 -
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I wouldn't mind having nymph! So kawaii!! ^-^[/quote]
I'd go with Ikaros
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.26 01:21:00 -
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I finished it. How lame, well guess I'm on to the next anime.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.01.26 01:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I finished it. How lame, well guess I'm on to the next anime.
Season 3 comes later this year for heavens lost property
Try Spice and Wolf
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1473
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Posted - 2014.01.26 01:34:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I finished it. How lame, well guess I'm on to the next anime. Season 3 comes later this year for heavens lost property Try Spice and Wolf
There's a fkn movie? Just found it. Lol I'll check it out you have good taste in anime.
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
23
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Posted - 2014.01.26 02:04:00 -
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Read Heavens Lost Property manga sempais!!! It's the best!! I finally finished Angel Beats too  so good
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
623
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Posted - 2014.01.26 02:28:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:Read Heavens Lost Property manga sempais!!! It's the best!! I finally finished Angel Beats too so good
Angel beats is really good. But it's so sad :(
Still though.. Clannad is #1 for animes that have made me shed them manly tears
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
623
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Posted - 2014.01.26 02:34:00 -
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Btw heim
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=85456&find=unread
Lots of anime in ^^ here.
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1473
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Posted - 2014.01.26 02:54:00 -
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Lol nice.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.01.26 03:01:00 -
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When SoTa PoP gets unbanned I'm going to fancy the OP and title up a bit. >: )
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.26 03:03:00 -
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If your into kinky stuff, look up "Monster Musume". Its a manga but DAMN!! Weird **** going on in there...
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
632
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Posted - 2014.01.26 03:57:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:If your into kinky stuff, look up "Monster Musume". Its a manga but DAMN!! Weird **** going on in there...
I love manga. Ill give it a read
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.01.26 04:26:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more Lol I have all rifles pro 5 I'd just rather watch anime than play games. You've become like me. What are you watching? Umm heaven's lost property, lol I want an angleoid who needs real women.
been watching that, love it, but I only feel like watching anime when I'm inebriated. Is there something wrong with me?
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2014.01.26 04:30:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Palatinate wrote:If your into kinky stuff, look up "Monster Musume". Its a manga but DAMN!! Weird **** going on in there... I love manga. Ill give it a read
Wow... Umm, I wonder how you would do a snake...?
I mean.. Like CAN you do a snake? Lol
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.26 04:32:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Marad''er wrote:Palatinate wrote:If your into kinky stuff, look up "Monster Musume". Its a manga but DAMN!! Weird **** going on in there... I love manga. Ill give it a read Wow... Umm, I wonder how you would do a snake...? I mean.. Like CAN you do a snake? Lol
Meh, I'm too redneck to do it. I much prefer them sheep and cattle.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1473
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Posted - 2014.01.26 04:38:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marad''er wrote:Combat rifle is OP. sorry I made you spec into the rail :(
Well regardless they are both OP. but combat rifle is more Lol I have all rifles pro 5 I'd just rather watch anime than play games. You've become like me. What are you watching? Umm heaven's lost property, lol I want an angleoid who needs real women. been watching that, love it, but I only feel like watching anime when I'm inebriated. Is there something wrong with me?
I've been watching anime a lot more recently, helps with my stress but then I finish all the seasons in less than a day then I throw a roid rage.
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.26 05:38:00 -
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How come everything in the war room boils down to: Nyain San this AE that OP this OP that Rifle this Rifle that ... Anime!
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1475
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Posted - 2014.01.26 05:43:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:How come everything in the war room boils down to: Nyain San this AE that OP this OP that Rifle this Rifle that ... Anime!
This thread had nothing to do with any of that. You got to admit anime is pretty great.
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