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Aria Gomes
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:02:00 -
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So why? I've seen Minmatar Scout players crush enemies like a jellybean. The suit is king/queen of mayhem, nova knifing people that aren't paying attention, blowing up people who don't look before they run towards you(though sometimes the RE doesn't detonate) and unleashing hell with a Combat Rifle or SMG. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:19:00 -
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Because it's inferior to most other options.
Those people 'crushing people like jellybeans'? They'd get much better results with other gear.
Level 5 Proficiency 3 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Logi Bro
2700
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:28:00 -
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The problem is because of, as most things are in this current build, the logi. The Minlogi could equip nova knives and kincats to get the same speed, while also carrying equipment, more hp, and more CPU/PG, with a sweet completely free hacking bonus/complex armor repper to boot.
The scout isn't bad, just the logi is better.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2086
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:35:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:So why? I've seen Minmatar Scout players crush enemies like a jellybean. The suit is king/queen of mayhem, nova knifing people that aren't paying attention, blowing up people who don't look before they run towards you(though sometimes the RE doesn't detonate) and unleashing hell with a Combat Rifle or SMG. Because you have to wait for people to not pay attention or be idiots before you can use the suit to its full advantage.
Not saying the suit is worthless, I've seen many great Matari scouts.
It just requires a really skilled hand to use is all.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3550
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:53:00 -
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Because people don't like to experiment to find a fit they like.
The Minmatar Scout for example can be a great frontlines suit, but everyone is convinced that up tanking is wrong on Minmatar Scouts, even though it works.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
919
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:56:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:So why? I've seen Minmatar Scout players crush enemies like a jellybean. The suit is king/queen of mayhem, nova knifing people that aren't paying attention, blowing up people who don't look before they run towards you(though sometimes the RE doesn't detonate) and unleashing hell with a Combat Rifle or SMG.
You could prove nearly any argument for balance or against in a pub match scenario...
95% of what people get or base their opinions is a public match. and should be disregarded. |
Aria Gomes
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
266
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:25:00 -
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I never actually tank my Min Scout lol. I got one shield extender. But I don't mind the squishy sometimes. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2979
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:32:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:So why? I've seen Minmatar Scout players crush enemies like a jellybean. The suit is king/queen of mayhem, nova knifing people that aren't paying attention, blowing up people who don't look before they run towards you(though sometimes the RE doesn't detonate) and unleashing hell with a Combat Rifle or SMG.
Because its shield stats aren't great for a scout, and almost any good fit usually requires some sort of capacity upgrade. Proto weapons are a no-no, and even at proto with three extenders & moving at full speed, you can be dropped in the blink of an eye by any half decent rifle user.
No.
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CRYPT3C W0LF
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:35:00 -
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My gallente Scout eats Proto Sentinels with 8 times the amount of HP I have lol
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2103
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:37:00 -
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My day job when I need ISK is a BPO Sever Logi. I have soem fun with it, and enjoy being a logi bro.
But I only really have fun in an M/1. I am finding I have fun in an M-1 as well. I don't enjoy the current Mk.0 because for the huge expense, there isn't much performance gain to justify it. It's all really about the knives tho. I just don't have as much fun shooting people.
Btw, you Re Re'd a heavy I was about to stab the other day GG
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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sira draco
Ancient Erectiles
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:44:00 -
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I prefer the mimatar over the gallente because I value speed in a scout, I'd rather have shields than armor due to the speed penalty of armor.
People are just obsessed with armor and don't feel safe wothout HP. I prefer glass cannon myself |
Aria Gomes
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
268
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:56:00 -
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mollerz wrote:My day job when I need ISK is a BPO Sever Logi. I have soem fun with it, and enjoy being a logi bro. But I only really have fun in an M/1. I am finding I have fun in an M-1 as well. I don't enjoy the current Mk.0 because for the huge expense, there isn't much performance gain to justify it. It's all really about the knives tho. I just don't have as much fun shooting people. Btw, you Re Re'd a heavy I was about to stab the other day GG
Lol sorry! GG though. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1142
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:59:00 -
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i'm not sure. they knife my heavy like it's nothing. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
662
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:24:00 -
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sira draco wrote:I prefer the mimatar over the gallente because I value speed in a scout, I'd rather have shields than armor due to the speed penalty of armor.
People are just obsessed with armor and don't feel safe wothout HP. I prefer glass cannon myself Actually, I didn't know anything about this game or about armor when I first skilled into it. I saw "Light Frame" and speed came to mind. Plus, I was Gallente so I thought it'd be cool if I stick with my race. |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
240
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:27:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Because it's inferior to most other options.
Those people 'crushing people like jellybeans'? They'd get much better results with other gear.
I made a thread called the heart of the disparity between the minmitar and gallant scoutsGǪ id like to see your opinion on what i found
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
240
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:35:00 -
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sira draco wrote:I prefer the mimatar over the gallente because I value speed in a scout, I'd rather have shields than armor due to the speed penalty of armor.
People are just obsessed with armor and don't feel safe wothout HP. I prefer glass cannon myself
put 3 kin cats, an adv armor plate, a proto shield extender, and a damage mod on a gallant scout. You are now faster than a minmitar scout, have more HP, do more damage (unless the minmitar uses knives), have same profile, more scan radius, and can fit a cloak and a weapon, while the minmitar scout must choose between the two. A minmitar scout must equip 2x kin cats, a profile dampener, and 3x shield mods to be anywhere close to the gal scout, and now it doesn't have enough pg to fit a basic cloak, a stable scanner, and anything more than a basic scrambler pistol as a weapon, while the gallant can fit a cloak, an adv shotgun, and an SMG using the previously stated fitting. The minmitar scout is simply inferior
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
7
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:44:00 -
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I'm gonna have so much fun with this. Made me a new purely Minmatar merc and scouthood is my first port of call SP wise. Going to have a lot of fun with it.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
4725
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:48:00 -
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Because it doesn't really do anything better than any of the other suits.
Only reason I use it without Armour Plates is because I hate slow strafe speeds.
Fatal Absolution Operation - LVL 5
Fatal Absolution Pro. - LVL 5
FOTM Abuser, outta mah way Nyain San!
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